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Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:15 PM

From: Dr. James Robb...

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Philip Proctor
29 February at 16:42

Better safe than sorry!

From: Dr. James Robb, who believes that it will probably be widespread in the U.S. by mid-March/April.�

Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.

2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.

3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.

4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.

5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.

6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.

7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.

Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.

2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.

I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us! Jim
James Robb, MD FCAP

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:24 PM

1. I won't remember to do any of that other than wiping the cart handle at the grocery store

Which I already do, mainly because the nasty germ factories known as 'little children' often touch those.

The rest ... eh.

I'll be fine.

If I come crying to DU later cause I'm sick, you guys have my permission in advance to point and laugh

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:28 PM

2. lol

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:38 PM

3. This part is classic ...

"Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it"

Sounds positively Biblical if you ask me

BTW, not really buying that.

First off, from what I've read we're not even sure from what animal it came, and secondly
if humans had 'no internal defense' ... given there's no known curative agents at this time, the death rate would be MUCH higher than 2-3%.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:53 PM

4. I'm doomed already

Well, I wash my hands with soap and water at all appropriate times, but there are some conflicting bits of advice on hand sanitizers: some say to use them, others say that they are pretty much worthless and can mess up the ph balance in your skin - making it more vulnerable to germs (yes, I have heard both in the past 24 hours). A poster on the wall of every examination room at my doctor's office says in English and Spanish to cough and sneeze into your elbow. I read that tissues are not adequate. More conflicting information. :-/

I am lucky and thankful that I'm not in a high risk category. Who knows? The cold that I've had for the last couple of days could actually be coronavirus though there are no known cases of it in my state*.

*I find that hard to fathom that we haven't been hit yet. I live near Las Vegas and we get thousands and thousands of tourists here from "hot spot" areas.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:59 PM

5. Lay down? With a lozenge in your mouth?

My momma would have my hide, and she's been dead for almost 20 yrs!

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Response to woodsprite (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 04:48 PM

6. Yeah! Major choking hazard. nt

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