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Paul Ryan (and other Repubs) is wearing a flag pain with what appears to be a black spot in the middle of the field of red and white stripes.
What is reason behind this?
isn't this a violation of the flag code?
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)I noticed them at the RNC. I thought it might be a black star.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)The thing is, there are no penalties for violating the flag code.
(Unless I stand corrected.)
--imm
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)He looked it up here
edit to add <snip> from NY Daily News article
During Thursday night's debate in Jacksonville, the former Massachusetts governor wore an American flag pin that bore the signature GOP elephant in the bottom righthand corner.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Romney has a dark blotch in the lower right corner that looks like a little elephant.
Ryan has a red star, possibly a Secret Service person loaned him their lapel pin so at least he'd have one?
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/30/1125774/-Did-Paul-Ryan-Desecrate-the-American-Flag&h=482&w=425&sz=28&tbnid=rQZlIWJ2jIsn2M:&tbnh=99&tbnw=87&zoom=1&usg=__QEjajKNaFuiS0LYOPKn4tGPhcEM=&docid=Bh0obz2-6Az6wM&sa=X&ei=lMtMUPDKNKLW2gX7o4GICw&ved=0CG8Q9QEwCg&dur=142
Reason for edits: Links were not working properly
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Panasonic
(2,921 posts)I grew up around dentures - and I know this is a denture!
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Here is a link to some photos of the flag with the logo
http://www.google.com/search?q=secret+service+logo+lapel+pin&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=eJ6&rls=org.mozilla:en-UShttp://&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8cNMUODYAoqbjALP2YCIDw&ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1352&bih=751
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Flag Code Section 8 J: re: lapel flag pin
<snip>
The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
WHO IS ALLOWED TO MODIFY Flag Code:
10. Modification of rules and customs by President
Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation
Section 901. Service flag and service lapel button
A)
Individuals Entitled To Display Service Flag. A service flag approved by the Secretary of Defense may be displayed in a window of the place of residence of individuals who are members of the immediate family of an individual serving in the Armed Forces of the United States during any period of war or hostilities in which the Armed Forces of the United States are engaged.
...
B) License To Manufacture and Sell Service Flags and Service Lapel Buttons. Any person may apply to the Secretary for a license to manufacture and sell the approved service flag, or the approved service lapel button, or both. Any person that manufactures a service flag or service lapel button without having first obtained a license, or otherwise violates this section is liable to the United States Government for a civil penalty of not more than $1,000.
SECTION 3
Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; ....
...... (really long section - repetitive to cover all legal angles I think)
...... to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court.
TeamPooka
(24,209 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)And yes, that would be a violation - as are all of the teabagger flag clothes. I treat the flag with respect, but I still have the flag I put out on 9-11 and flew for an entire year (illuminated at night, mind you) and it's now upside down on it's original pole for "distress" situations (such as the shrub stealing the election a second time). It's tattered and almost transparent, but sometimes the situation calls for such a display. The standard flag is in excellent condition and I even flew it when Reagan died. I won't fly it for the shrub. He was never a legitimate president.