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Lord Ludd

(585 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 03:23 PM Mar 2020

This recent photo of Trump reminded me

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of his fellow faux populists in the superb animated feature Animal Farm (1954). The pigheadedness (understandable in the 2nd photo) and arrogance are there for all to see except for the willingly blind.

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This recent photo of Trump reminded me (Original Post) Lord Ludd Mar 2020 OP
He looks like shit and that he is suffering Botany Mar 2020 #1
We're all Boxer's lame54 Mar 2020 #2
We're all Boxer's what? volstork Mar 2020 #5
Boxer is the horse in Animal Farm nt coti Mar 2020 #7
Volstork was pointing out the unwanted apostrophe in the preceding post. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #9
Thank you. volstork Mar 2020 #10
I went back and forth on that... lame54 Mar 2020 #11
I think you did it right. "Boxers" would have looked even worse nt coti Mar 2020 #17
No. "Boxers" in that sentence is a plural, but the apostrophe wrongly makes it a possessive; hence tblue37 Mar 2020 #18
Yes. I understand the general rule for plurals and possessives. However, often with names coti Mar 2020 #19
Doesn't apply. The Boxers we become are all somewhat different and separate. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #24
No, there is only one Boxer character. "Boxers" would imply more than one separate entity coti Mar 2020 #36
The only possessive I can think of that drops the apostrophe is "its". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #25
God, he is absolutely hideous. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #3
Fugly inside and out. OMGWTF Mar 2020 #26
He evokes images of toads and Jabba the Hut even more than pigs, in my mind Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #28
Hideous - ineptitude & arrogance magicarpet Mar 2020 #4
In a lot of recent photos in a meeting trumps was folding his arms across his chest. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2020 #6
A closed posture, in body language speak, is a closed Backseat Driver Mar 2020 #12
He's a bad seed, from birth. Born bad. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2020 #35
Holding his left to avoid knocking the guy is polite. Holding both is defensive. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #30
Now was that trumps or trump's? (see above posts) CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #31
What a great find eleny Mar 2020 #8
Appreciation! nt Lord Ludd Mar 2020 #16
That's a great representation. His "inner" self is coming through loud & clear. Judi Lynn Mar 2020 #13
Thanks so much! nt Lord Ludd Mar 2020 #15
Pigfit malaise Mar 2020 #14
. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #20
Amazing likeness! Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #21
and then there is this.... safeinOhio Mar 2020 #22
I noticed in another photo of him earlier how the confabulations are wearing him out lambchopp59 Mar 2020 #23
Amazing likeness! George II Mar 2020 #27
Ouch!!! calimary Mar 2020 #29
They remind me of these... 2naSalit Mar 2020 #32
I always thought of trump's "presidency" as more like Animal Farm than 1984. Sugar Smack Mar 2020 #33
That's downright uncanny! lunatica Mar 2020 #34
this is a man who JUDGES THE APPEARANCES OF OTHERS Skittles Mar 2020 #37
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, misanthrope Mar 2020 #38

tblue37

(64,980 posts)
18. No. "Boxers" in that sentence is a plural, but the apostrophe wrongly makes it a possessive; hence
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 05:12 PM
Mar 2020

volstork's question: "Boxer's what?"

coti

(4,612 posts)
19. Yes. I understand the general rule for plurals and possessives. However, often with names
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020

and other proper nouns that can't be literally pluralized (i.e., you can't actually have more than one "Boxer" character- that doesn't make sense), an apostrophe is added to give an implied maintenance of the proper noun's singularity, while still acknowledging the intent of the writer to refer to some larger number of the character.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,788 posts)
24. Doesn't apply. The Boxers we become are all somewhat different and separate.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 06:05 PM
Mar 2020

If you write "We are all Boxers", it is clear that the Boxer people are separate people, hence plural.

At the family reunion the Boxers were joyous.

In the many Animal Farm films and videos, the Boxers are voiced by different actors.

The possessive of a plural drops an S.

The kids' bikes were scattered on the ground.
rather than
The kids's bikes were scattered on the ground. (kidses is the wrong pronunciation -- just kids -- hence the first form.)

Likewise the plural of a name ending in S.

Moses' tablets are lost.

coti

(4,612 posts)
36. No, there is only one Boxer character. "Boxers" would imply more than one separate entity
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:21 PM
Mar 2020

originally named Boxer- more than one actual character named "Boxer." For example, "Boxers" would mean, in the event there are two (as opposed to more), there is a horse character named Boxer that's brown, and another, totally separate horse character named Boxer that's black. That's two "Boxers," which isn't what the writer meant at all. Thus the apostrophe, to attempt to imply the singular character.

Another example where it would be appropriate to use such a proper noun without an apostrophe is where there is, indeed, more than one entity referred to by the proper noun. For example, the sentence: "All them Trumps is cheats, chiselers and swindlers." In that sentence, there are many separate entities who fall under the proper "Trump" category, thus it is right to just thrown on the "s" at the end of the word.

The examples you gave uphold this distinction.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,788 posts)
28. He evokes images of toads and Jabba the Hut even more than pigs, in my mind
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 06:21 PM
Mar 2020

However, pigs are appropriate, and the movie poster is apropos is a lot of ways.

tRump pretends to be "a man of the people", and he uses that canard as an appeal to his base who have bought it hook, line, and sinker.

But he behaves as if some are more equal than others and that he is the absolute most equal of all and hence entitled to everything.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. In a lot of recent photos in a meeting trumps was folding his arms across his chest.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 03:51 PM
Mar 2020


Now in this this one, where he could not do that, he is still holding his arms tightly.

I'm thinking ...to hide tremors????

Backseat Driver

(4,339 posts)
12. A closed posture, in body language speak, is a closed
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 04:15 PM
Mar 2020

mind, a closed position, a highly self-only protective posture against an invisible fear and a lack of confidence in doing what is "good." This is exactly how we know that he cannot control his impulses of any and every evil - more's the pity if he actually realizes it which I doubt. He is an expert, however, in causing chaos by virtue of the breath he breathes, which no one needs.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
31. Now was that trumps or trump's? (see above posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 06:24 PM
Mar 2020

Announcer: "Now stay tuned for Conjunction Junction."

(I'm just messin' with the whole gang at this point.)

Judi Lynn

(160,217 posts)
13. That's a great representation. His "inner" self is coming through loud & clear.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 04:15 PM
Mar 2020

He says he could be like George Washington but that would be too dull.

You betcha.

Thanks, Lord Ludd. Welcome to D.U.

safeinOhio

(32,531 posts)
22. and then there is this....
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 05:58 PM
Mar 2020

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. A proclamation by the pigs who control the government in the novel Animal Farm, by George Orwell.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
23. I noticed in another photo of him earlier how the confabulations are wearing him out
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 05:59 PM
Mar 2020

How much higher stack of cards can he build... without paying for any of it? Expect the priggish piggy to get worse, far worse. I'm certain the dietary mismanagement is contributing to this as well.
I'd far rather look at someone who has hard earned grey hair now... but... still fun, sexy beefcake of a man, whoo-eee:
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misanthrope

(7,405 posts)
38. "The creatures outside looked from pig to man,
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:27 PM
Mar 2020

and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

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