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Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:23 AM

Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19

This is exciting! Chloroquine is an old, cheap, and safe drug that's given for malaria.

The Chinese are using it in clinical trials to treat COVID-19 pneumonia in the sickest patients and it appears to be working! Blocks the infection.

If this holds up could be a game changer. 🤞

Here's the publication:

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bst/advpub/0/advpub_2020.01047/_pdf

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Reply Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19 (Original post)
Claritie Pixie Mar 2020 OP
CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #1
Midnightwalk Mar 2020 #3
mitch96 Mar 2020 #34
Claritie Pixie Mar 2020 #7
CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #38
OhNo-Really Mar 2020 #17
emmaverybo Mar 2020 #20
Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #2
nilram Mar 2020 #16
dalton99a Mar 2020 #4
jberryhill Mar 2020 #6
JDC Mar 2020 #8
jberryhill Mar 2020 #11
dalton99a Mar 2020 #10
jberryhill Mar 2020 #13
Yavin4 Mar 2020 #24
AZ8theist Mar 2020 #30
Rollo Mar 2020 #32
PSPS Mar 2020 #25
calimary Mar 2020 #31
Bongo Prophet Mar 2020 #36
Claritie Pixie Mar 2020 #9
VOX Mar 2020 #33
jberryhill Mar 2020 #5
Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #22
Tucker08087 Mar 2020 #12
RockRaven Mar 2020 #14
mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #15
denem Mar 2020 #18
mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #19
denem Mar 2020 #21
Captain Zero Mar 2020 #23
PSPS Mar 2020 #26
Dopers_Greed Mar 2020 #27
DanieRains Mar 2020 #28
James48 Mar 2020 #29
Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #39
MuseRider Mar 2020 #35
indigovalley Mar 2020 #37
BComplex Mar 2020 #40

Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:26 AM

1. Add some zinc

and you MIGHT have something there.

Chloroquine is quinine, nothing new at all. Its been used in the past to treat malaria.

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:29 AM

3. Add some gin

and then you will have something



Seriously a treatment would be great

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:06 AM

34. I'll have a gin and tonic and not a Corona virus wth a twist of Lyme disease...... nt

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:34 AM

7. Not the same drug, same class. Agree with adding Zinc.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 10:09 PM

38. My father had malaria

He contracted it during WWII.

He drank quinine water often and he also used to take zinc with it as it helped make the quinine work better he used to say.

He also took vitamin C and vitamin E.

He also contracted dengue fever and beri-beri to go with the malaria which never goes away.

I often wonder how he lived to be as old as he did in hindsight which was 75 years with a load of suffering that went with it. My poor Dad. How I miss him so!


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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:28 AM

17. 2nd time I've seen this floater. I hope so

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:42 AM

20. Also anti malaria drugs have been used on lupus.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:27 AM

2. Covid19 v. tinnitus. Hard call.

Living with tinnitus for decades - aggravated by Q-Vel, which I took for restless leg in the early 80s.

But I guess if I get the pneumonia, rather than a mild case, it is good to have options.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:20 AM

16. A friend would get horrendous nightmares with chloroquine.

So he lived for two years in malaria country without it. But if we can get some protection to the herd in general, that’d be great.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:30 AM

4. WHO is skeptical:

https://factcheck.afp.com/chloroquine-has-not-been-approved-treatment-covid-19

Chinese state news agency Xinhua reported on February 17 that “Chinese experts, based on the result of clinical trials, have confirmed that chloroquine phosphate... has a certain curative effect on the novel coronavirus disease”.

These trials were being conducted on “over 100 patients”, according to Sun Yanrong, deputy head of the China National Center for Biotechnology Development under the Ministry of Science and Technology.

A brief overview of the findings published by the Japan-based journal BioScience Trends provided few details as to how the trials were carried out.

In a press conference on February 20, Janet Diaz, head of clinical care within the WHO Emergencies Programme, said that “for chloroquine, there is no proof that that is an effective treatment at this time.”

At the time of writing, the World Health Organization (WHO) states that “to date, there is no vaccine and no specific antiviral medicine to prevent or treat COVID-2019”.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:33 AM

6. Okay, I'll bite. Who is skeptical?

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:36 AM

8. 1st base

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Response to JDC (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:39 AM

11. Sometimes his wife is skeptical

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:39 AM

10. Why?

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:42 AM

13. Because one of the authors was Xu

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:51 AM

24. I didn't write it. Who did. n/t

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #24)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:44 AM

30. This will clear it up. President Ronald Reagan:

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #30)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:32 AM

32. Classic, LOL...

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:51 AM

25. First time I've seen Laughing Elsie's mask! LOL. You crack me up!

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:50 AM

31. Not quite. The Who ARE skeptical.

Plural.

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Response to calimary (Reply #31)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 10:42 AM

36. I get on my knees and pray, we won't be fooled again!

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:36 AM

9. As they should be. Methodology is missing.

Definitely need to study it more to confirm or debunk.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:28 AM

33. Don't knock The Who, they were a very influenza-- I mean...*influential* band.

They were a big part of rock’s mid-1960s “British Invasion.”
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:32 AM

5. You mean it's not cured by toilet paper?

 

Dafuq am I going to do with all this toilet paper?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:46 AM

22. Ok, that got a chuckle...

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:42 AM

12. I take that

as a treatment for Lupus. I take it every day. Maybe I’ll get through this after all!

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

14. Is now a bad time to point out that TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) as now fetishized by

so many in the west was an outgrowth of Mao/CCP not having the resources available to offer what other nations could in terms of the latest evidence-/science-based treatments to the general population, so they promoted the virtues of what was available to offer?

Can nobody envision any similarity which would trigger in them some skepticism until the results are repeated elsewhere absent any agenda/COI?

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:18 AM

15. Did you guys know powdered Rhino Horn can turn a man into a stud between the sheets?

It's true.

It really, really is ...

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #15)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:32 AM

18. What about tied up on a chair?

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Response to denem (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:40 AM

19. Let me ask my apothecary, I'll get back to you ... (nt)

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:43 AM

21. We could put the chair between the sheets.

OK, enough already

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Response to denem (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:48 AM

23. bwahahaha

thanks for the laugh

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:54 AM

26. Yes, but is it better than Jim Bakker's Silver Solution? People say that's god's benchmark for this.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:01 AM

27. Given that Chinese "medicine"

is partially responsible for the wet markets that caused this thing in the first place.

I'll believe it when I see it.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:15 AM

28. God I Hope So

Nothing on CNN or MSNBC....

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:41 AM

29. Hate to break it to you

But that release was issued February 19, and there isn’t any further information I could find since.

I’m sure if it were actually working, we would be hearing much more about it now, don’t you think? It wa three weeks ago when this was published.

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Response to James48 (Reply #29)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 10:26 PM

39. Chloroquine worked on MERS and SARs

It probably does help.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 10:25 AM

35. Holy cow I used to have a ton of that around

for my RA. Wish I still took that now.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 10:50 AM

37. Medical studies are starting on this drug

There are clinical trials currently underway to determine if Chloroquine really is a drug that can fight the Conona virus. They are primarily in China, which sounds suspicious, but I don't think the doctors there would have anything to gain from lying about this med or making unsubstantiated claims. There have been previous studies showing that Chloroquine is effective in fighting the deadly SARS virus which is related to COVID19 so its possible it has a similar affect on this current virus. I think the Chinese doctors have reported what they have seen clinically but are now gather the scientific evidence needed to support their claims, sort out the various factors that may be involved, and provide data to the medical community. There may be similar studies underway here in the USA as well.

Japan also is testing drug combinations on COVID19, not Chlorquine, but anti-viral HIV medications. Its possible some of these may be proven effective also.

Like others here I take Hydroxychloroquine daily for an autoimmune disease (Lupus). I'm following this closely because if this med has a positive effect on fighting the virus that will be a huge discovery.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:32 PM

40. Chloroquine phosphate - is it easy to get? Can my doctor prescribe it?

If so, I'll send him a link to this thread!

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