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Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:38 PM

If the hospitals aren't overrun yet, how are we already out of personal protective equipment?

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Reply If the hospitals aren't overrun yet, how are we already out of personal protective equipment? (Original post)
Shell_Seas Mar 2020 OP
mucifer Mar 2020 #1
milestogo Mar 2020 #2
BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #3
Quemado Mar 2020 #4
kckc Mar 2020 #5
Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #6
ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #7
BluesRunTheGame Mar 2020 #8

Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:40 PM

1. trump and his cronies effed up on so many levels that's how

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:43 PM

2. Because we were ill-prepared for the rise in usage.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:43 PM

3. Patients who are showing any symptoms probably have to be

treated as if they have the virus--even if they're in medical facilities for other reasons. Testing isn't keeping up so you don't really know who has it and who doesn't, and you aren't supposed to reuse your protective gear between patients. That will burn through your isolation/PPE stockpiles in a hurry. Edit to add: lots of other reasons to use PPE, it's not just for this virus, it's for MRSA, C. difficile, VRE, and just basic universal precautions.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:49 PM

4. It's obvious: the for-profit health care system did not want to tie up money in inventory.

The number 1 goal of the for-profit health care system in the US is to maximize profit. It costs money to have an excess supply of PPE for an emergency like this pandemic.

Patient care is not the highest priority.

It's obvious: the for-profit health care system in the US can't deal with a pandemic.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:50 PM

5. one possible explanation

There is also another issue that isn't mentioned much, but the privatization of healthcare really shines a light on it, and that is the idiotic system of "just-in-time" inventory. The best way for any industry to cut costs is obviously in labor, but before it gets to that point, an inventory system is set up that keeps very very little supply of anything on hand- basically, it is manufactured when ordered, and in a crisis, well, you see the result. In healthcare, this could mean PPE, or reagents for the lab to do, you know, actual testing. This keeps costs down and makes stockholders very happy. It makes me very grumpy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/supply-chains-and-coronavirus/608329/


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Response to kckc (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:08 PM

6. Exactly. And it is because of "just-in-time" inventory that we need a government program in place

to ensure that we have stockpiles of emergency equipment.

Running government like a business is insanity. It is not a business.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:13 PM

7. We Might Not Be Yet

But, at current rate of increase we might. So the alarms have to be sounded now, not when they actually run very low.
We might be critically low now, I don't actually know. But, I'd rather have them be ramping up now than scraping for them later.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:15 PM

8. Bet you most of this stuff comes from overseas.

Thereís been heavy demand from other places that are ahead of us in this crisis. Global supplies are low and we donít make it here.

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