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BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:22 AM Mar 2020

As Rachel says, someone please talk me down. . .

I'm a nurse in SF and got home to read that Pussy-Grabber's approval is higher than Biden's because of Pussy-Grabbers
"performance" during this crisis.

PLEASE tell me this is not true. This depresses me to the point that I am going to have a hard time getting up to take care of patients. I'm literally on the verge of getting on my knees and vomiting in the toilet.

I hate that motherfucker with every single cell of my body. Goddamn him.

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As Rachel says, someone please talk me down. . . (Original Post) BigDemVoter Mar 2020 OP
Ignore 'polls,' elleng Mar 2020 #1
I feel your pain Cornus Mar 2020 #2
Not in any numbers I've seen. Why do you say that? C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #3
Just read one in the Washington Post. IF I can relocate link, I will post! BigDemVoter Mar 2020 #6
ignore polls and work like we are 20 points behind questionseverything Mar 2020 #4
No I'm not going to talk you down. Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #5
Well ... you did sorta talk her down there ... just sayin' (nt) mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #9
Well, aren't you a source of comfort! smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #20
🤣. You are awesome smirkymonkey! LiberalLoner Mar 2020 #29
It's a rally 'round the flag, boys, bounce, and for some he seems competent at the moment . . . Journeyman Mar 2020 #7
Many Low Information Voters Don't Watch His Whole Performance In These Daily Conferences That Double global1 Mar 2020 #14
Fortunately, the many do not need to be sway. We can turn this election with the help of a few . . . Journeyman Mar 2020 #28
Please, try to keep in mind things we learned from the Mueller Investigation and Impeachment Inquiry Hugin Mar 2020 #8
Dear Lord I hope you're right! luvallpeeps Mar 2020 #11
Republicans/Putin are merely DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #16
To what poll are they referring? luvallpeeps Mar 2020 #10
Take a deep breath... jls4561 Mar 2020 #12
Biden still beats him in the polls. RDANGELO Mar 2020 #13
The word has not gotten out how badly he fucked us. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #15
shorter link ... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #24
thank you for that link orleans Mar 2020 #27
We love you Andy Canuck Mar 2020 #17
Check out this link stlstdg Mar 2020 #18
As Joe himself said in an interview with Chuck Todd... B Stieg Mar 2020 #19
I don't know what kind of morons they're asking, but I've lost faith Warpy Mar 2020 #21
ok Flaleftist Mar 2020 #22
+1, these number are horrible ... Wait till Red Don extends beyond April 30th uponit7771 Mar 2020 #32
Look at these Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #23
THANK YOU! BigDemVoter Mar 2020 #35
Read this, you may feel better. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #25
Thank you! BigDemVoter Mar 2020 #36
Think about it logically, and think midterms. The biggest issue then was the margin of victory OnDoutside Mar 2020 #26
it's false azureblue Mar 2020 #30
****TRUMP'S FLAG RALLY NUMBERS ARE HORRIBLE**** uponit7771 Mar 2020 #31
Biden Vs Trump JGug1 Mar 2020 #33
Polling data can be easily manipulated to provide any desired result dlk Mar 2020 #34
That's not true at all... budkin Mar 2020 #37

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
6. Just read one in the Washington Post. IF I can relocate link, I will post!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:30 AM
Mar 2020

I should have linked in the first place!

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
5. No I'm not going to talk you down.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:30 AM
Mar 2020

Control your emotions.

If you need help controlling your emotions look at other president’s approval ratings in time of crisis. Then divide Trump’s approval by that number.

Tell us what you get.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
7. It's a rally 'round the flag, boys, bounce, and for some he seems competent at the moment . . .
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:32 AM
Mar 2020

since he's on TV talking all the time. Low information viewers see what he's presently doing as the traits of a leader. As the catastrophuck continues, his incompetence will become increasingly evident, especially as he continues to fall apart.

I would like to see the breakdown by state. But give it time. Time and circumstances and his propensity for erratic behavior. What his supporters saw as endearing yesterday will be infuriating tomorrow, particularly when it's their friends and relatives who suffer and die. All we need is a thin margin of people to turn from him and our nightmare could be over.

He provided yet another "nail in his coffin," a comment sure to infuriate even those among his base, when he speculated without any evidence that nurses in New York are stealing PPE and selling it on the black market. That kind of reckless talk will surely drive his numbers down, especially in light of the worsening situation.

Thanks for your efforts, BigDemVoter. It is people like you who will help pull us out of this quagmire.

global1

(25,241 posts)
14. Many Low Information Voters Don't Watch His Whole Performance In These Daily Conferences That Double
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:24 AM
Mar 2020

as his new rallies. They don't hear all the lies that he tells or the misinformation that comes out of his mouth. These same people watch their 10pm news reports on their local channels. These local news reports just show a 30 second soundbite from these press conferences that portrays him as the president. As such - the impression that they get is that he is doing a good job. This is what I call 'fake news'.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
28. Fortunately, the many do not need to be sway. We can turn this election with the help of a few . . .
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:09 AM
Mar 2020

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
8. Please, try to keep in mind things we learned from the Mueller Investigation and Impeachment Inquiry
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:34 AM
Mar 2020

Trump's fixers manipulate various polls. Cohen said so in his testimony.

So, take them with a grain of salt or less other than knowing Trump is desperate enough to lie and cheat.

luvallpeeps

(935 posts)
11. Dear Lord I hope you're right!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:38 AM
Mar 2020

Because if his approval numbers are going up, we ain't worth saving. And my heart aches.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
16. Republicans/Putin are merely
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:46 AM
Mar 2020

rigging the polls in preparation for their rigging of the Election. So their rigged higher election votes won't be drastically different than their rigged higher poll numbers and therefore more believable.........

Putin is no dummy......

luvallpeeps

(935 posts)
10. To what poll are they referring?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:37 AM
Mar 2020

This makes me wanna puke too! How in God's name could anyone approve of such a dismal failure? He can't even pretend to calm a frightened nation. He is so ill-suited to the task that I literally can't picture anyone doing a worse job. Honest to God. Can I just say that I'm rooting for you, and I feel the same way? I can't stand anything about this pig. He is such scum, and what hurts me is that people out there approve of a man who accused hospital workers *** IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC WHERE PEOPLE ARE DYING DAILY*** of doing something with the supplies they were sent?!?! Who in the fucking fuck could even think like that? Maybe you can find something on this site that improves your outlook. God bless you!!! https://fivethirtyeight.com/politics/

jls4561

(1,257 posts)
12. Take a deep breath...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:53 AM
Mar 2020

Numbers are only a snapshot in time, and just because the orange asshat appears on TV everyday surrounded by some competent people (and Pence) doesn't mean that the news is not getting out there about just how badly his mismanaged this whole crisis. He may brag about his TV ratings, but most people are turning it on mute or vacuuming or playing with the dog until Dr. Fauci appears. Rest assured that there are competent voices like the state governors who actually do the minimal amount of kissing up to try to get what they need for their states who will actually see us through. We hope.

I myself am furious whenever I see the idiot on the news. Today he stated that he'd love to go to the docking of the hospital ship in NY, but "the secret service won't let him", Of course not. NY would go all French Revolution on his ass, and h'd never make it out of there. Pleasant thought.

Try to take care of yourself. Get enough sleep when possible. Go for a walk if possible, Think about the birds by the ocean, the blooms in the park, the whales in the Pacific. Get some take-out that is really, really yummy.

And know this from a person just across the bridge who is missing SF: I appreciate what you do, I thank you for what you do, and I am proud of you.

We are all pissed off and frustrated at the current state of affairs. You are not alone.

Take care. I might see you on the barricades in the near future.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
13. Biden still beats him in the polls.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:54 AM
Mar 2020

The RCP average is over 5% which means that he would probably win the electoral college.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
15. The word has not gotten out how badly he fucked us.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:35 AM
Mar 2020

We need to post this article any time we see someone praising Trump online:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR0soVILKGaglxnpgp7tNvFna_OcxPkirrYIcysErOp39VddD2mQfHJ_1oY

The fact that it is a British publication shows how few US media outlets have stated this obvious conclusion. US outlets are all afraid of being denied access.

orleans

(34,049 posts)
27. thank you for that link
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:03 AM
Mar 2020

it's so disturbing (understatement) as to how the state of this country has absolutely failed the people.

tremendous article.

stlstdg

(34 posts)
18. Check out this link
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:05 AM
Mar 2020
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/the-democrats-dont-understand-their-own-strength/608611/

It's a very good and convincing article, whose thesis is that these approval ratings mean much less than
most people might think.

You're a hero. Take care of yourself, don't fret and don't lose hope.

We need you.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
19. As Joe himself said in an interview with Chuck Todd...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:32 AM
Mar 2020

it's the rally-behind-the-president in a time of crisis tradition that accounts for the poll numbers.
I won't say I didn't not support W. after 9-11, at least the day after!
Try that. Made me feel better.

Warpy

(111,243 posts)
21. I don't know what kind of morons they're asking, but I've lost faith
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:41 AM
Mar 2020

in even the respected polls because they all know there will be serious consequences for innocent people if they don't massage that sick thing's sick ego.

I hope it'll be like 2016 when Clinton's numbers before Comey sabotaged her showed a fairly easy win. I hope the Orange Carbuncle is handed an ugly surprise by skewed polls. I want to see him rolled out of the White House, trussed up and on a refrigerator dolly, screaming his fool head off about the unfairness of it all..

I'm a retired RN, so that crack about how health care workers are stealing hospital supplies made me fantasize about introducing him to the reality of the job via intimate contact with C. diff. stool.

Yeah, I've had it. He was hilariously bad from the first day but now he's actively killing people. Any hilarity has long ceased and he's got to go.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
35. THANK YOU!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 12:40 AM
Mar 2020

I really, really owe you. This makes it pleasant for me for the first time today. I think I will sleep well-- thank you!

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
26. Think about it logically, and think midterms. The biggest issue then was the margin of victory
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:29 AM
Mar 2020

because of gerrymandering, where the Dems had to get 7/8% or more. With a moderate Dem nominee, even moderate Republicans want to vote the Pussy-Grabber out. That's the way the trending has been going since even before the midterms. Also once the Covid disaster starts hitting Red Staters where it hurts i.e. their own family, another chunk of them will be furious when they realise that Covid isn't just owning the "Libs", it's owning them too.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
30. it's false
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:51 AM
Mar 2020

the past few days there has been an all out assault on Biden - posts on about every site from DU to Reddit to DK. Coordinated with this is the Trump brigade, and they are throwing the polls to make it seem like Trump is holding up. Non. It's all fake. Trump had failed. He brought ruin and death to America, but his supporters will lie, cheat, smear, do anything to try to keep him in power.

The really funny part is this was all planned out - the posts made before Trump created the coronavirus debacle. So all of thsi crap is dated and makes no mention of that. So it's ineffective.

Watch for the Trump brigade to get way out there with accusations and smears and fake polls.

Ignore it - it's the last gasps of a dying regime

JGug1

(320 posts)
33. Biden Vs Trump
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

It isn't true.
Trump got a bump as the leader during crisis. I noted today that the bump was disappearing. In addition, a couple of polls show Biden beating Trump in key counties by *25* points. Am I comfortable? NO WAY and I won't be until Trump is out of the White House. But, he isn't leading Biden.

dlk

(11,549 posts)
34. Polling data can be easily manipulated to provide any desired result
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:57 PM
Mar 2020

One important factor is the statistical significance of the sample- how many were polled and whom. I wouldn’t pay any attention to this particular poll “result,” especially when Trump’s response to this crisis has been so criminally negligent. Some media outlets are completely sold on the horse race meme, even in these dire, life-threatening circumstances.

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