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I'm a nurse in SF and got home to read that Pussy-Grabber's approval is higher than Biden's because of Pussy-Grabbers
"performance" during this crisis.
PLEASE tell me this is not true. This depresses me to the point that I am going to have a hard time getting up to take care of patients. I'm literally on the verge of getting on my knees and vomiting in the toilet.
I hate that motherfucker with every single cell of my body. Goddamn him.
elleng
(130,864 posts)NO ONE knows. Recall 2016?
Cornus
(871 posts)Going through the same thing myself.
C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)Many Biden vs Trump sources compiled here...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)I should have linked in the first place!
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Control your emotions.
If you need help controlling your emotions look at other presidents approval ratings in time of crisis. Then divide Trumps approval by that number.
Tell us what you get.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)Journeyman
(15,031 posts)since he's on TV talking all the time. Low information viewers see what he's presently doing as the traits of a leader. As the catastrophuck continues, his incompetence will become increasingly evident, especially as he continues to fall apart.
I would like to see the breakdown by state. But give it time. Time and circumstances and his propensity for erratic behavior. What his supporters saw as endearing yesterday will be infuriating tomorrow, particularly when it's their friends and relatives who suffer and die. All we need is a thin margin of people to turn from him and our nightmare could be over.
He provided yet another "nail in his coffin," a comment sure to infuriate even those among his base, when he speculated without any evidence that nurses in New York are stealing PPE and selling it on the black market. That kind of reckless talk will surely drive his numbers down, especially in light of the worsening situation.
Thanks for your efforts, BigDemVoter. It is people like you who will help pull us out of this quagmire.
global1
(25,241 posts)as his new rallies. They don't hear all the lies that he tells or the misinformation that comes out of his mouth. These same people watch their 10pm news reports on their local channels. These local news reports just show a 30 second soundbite from these press conferences that portrays him as the president. As such - the impression that they get is that he is doing a good job. This is what I call 'fake news'.
Journeyman
(15,031 posts)Hugin
(33,120 posts)Trump's fixers manipulate various polls. Cohen said so in his testimony.
So, take them with a grain of salt or less other than knowing Trump is desperate enough to lie and cheat.
luvallpeeps
(935 posts)Because if his approval numbers are going up, we ain't worth saving. And my heart aches.
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)rigging the polls in preparation for their rigging of the Election. So their rigged higher election votes won't be drastically different than their rigged higher poll numbers and therefore more believable.........
Putin is no dummy......
luvallpeeps
(935 posts)This makes me wanna puke too! How in God's name could anyone approve of such a dismal failure? He can't even pretend to calm a frightened nation. He is so ill-suited to the task that I literally can't picture anyone doing a worse job. Honest to God. Can I just say that I'm rooting for you, and I feel the same way? I can't stand anything about this pig. He is such scum, and what hurts me is that people out there approve of a man who accused hospital workers *** IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC WHERE PEOPLE ARE DYING DAILY*** of doing something with the supplies they were sent?!?! Who in the fucking fuck could even think like that? Maybe you can find something on this site that improves your outlook. God bless you!!! https://fivethirtyeight.com/politics/
jls4561
(1,257 posts)Numbers are only a snapshot in time, and just because the orange asshat appears on TV everyday surrounded by some competent people (and Pence) doesn't mean that the news is not getting out there about just how badly his mismanaged this whole crisis. He may brag about his TV ratings, but most people are turning it on mute or vacuuming or playing with the dog until Dr. Fauci appears. Rest assured that there are competent voices like the state governors who actually do the minimal amount of kissing up to try to get what they need for their states who will actually see us through. We hope.
I myself am furious whenever I see the idiot on the news. Today he stated that he'd love to go to the docking of the hospital ship in NY, but "the secret service won't let him", Of course not. NY would go all French Revolution on his ass, and h'd never make it out of there. Pleasant thought.
Try to take care of yourself. Get enough sleep when possible. Go for a walk if possible, Think about the birds by the ocean, the blooms in the park, the whales in the Pacific. Get some take-out that is really, really yummy.
And know this from a person just across the bridge who is missing SF: I appreciate what you do, I thank you for what you do, and I am proud of you.
We are all pissed off and frustrated at the current state of affairs. You are not alone.
Take care. I might see you on the barricades in the near future.
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)The RCP average is over 5% which means that he would probably win the electoral college.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)We need to post this article any time we see someone praising Trump online:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR0soVILKGaglxnpgp7tNvFna_OcxPkirrYIcysErOp39VddD2mQfHJ_1oY
The fact that it is a British publication shows how few US media outlets have stated this obvious conclusion. US outlets are all afraid of being denied access.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,321 posts)The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life
Thanks for posting that -- I had not seen it!
orleans
(34,049 posts)it's so disturbing (understatement) as to how the state of this country has absolutely failed the people.
tremendous article.
Andy Canuck
(283 posts)despite the insanity in the Oval Office.
stlstdg
(34 posts)It's a very good and convincing article, whose thesis is that these approval ratings mean much less than
most people might think.
You're a hero. Take care of yourself, don't fret and don't lose hope.
We need you.
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)it's the rally-behind-the-president in a time of crisis tradition that accounts for the poll numbers.
I won't say I didn't not support W. after 9-11, at least the day after!
Try that. Made me feel better.
Warpy
(111,243 posts)in even the respected polls because they all know there will be serious consequences for innocent people if they don't massage that sick thing's sick ego.
I hope it'll be like 2016 when Clinton's numbers before Comey sabotaged her showed a fairly easy win. I hope the Orange Carbuncle is handed an ugly surprise by skewed polls. I want to see him rolled out of the White House, trussed up and on a refrigerator dolly, screaming his fool head off about the unfairness of it all..
I'm a retired RN, so that crack about how health care workers are stealing hospital supplies made me fantasize about introducing him to the reality of the job via intimate contact with C. diff. stool.
Yeah, I've had it. He was hilariously bad from the first day but now he's actively killing people. Any hilarity has long ceased and he's got to go.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Those numbers should be lower, but they are pathetic for a president during a time of a national crisis.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)Link to tweet
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https://projects.jhkforecasts.com/presidential-forecast/
If it were one poll favorable the others not so much..different story. This isnt the case.
The electoral college poll by dr. Rachael Bitecofer...single most important one
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)I really, really owe you. This makes it pleasant for me for the first time today. I think I will sleep well-- thank you!
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)MUCH needed & MUCH appreciated!
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)because of gerrymandering, where the Dems had to get 7/8% or more. With a moderate Dem nominee, even moderate Republicans want to vote the Pussy-Grabber out. That's the way the trending has been going since even before the midterms. Also once the Covid disaster starts hitting Red Staters where it hurts i.e. their own family, another chunk of them will be furious when they realise that Covid isn't just owning the "Libs", it's owning them too.
azureblue
(2,146 posts)the past few days there has been an all out assault on Biden - posts on about every site from DU to Reddit to DK. Coordinated with this is the Trump brigade, and they are throwing the polls to make it seem like Trump is holding up. Non. It's all fake. Trump had failed. He brought ruin and death to America, but his supporters will lie, cheat, smear, do anything to try to keep him in power.
The really funny part is this was all planned out - the posts made before Trump created the coronavirus debacle. So all of thsi crap is dated and makes no mention of that. So it's ineffective.
Watch for the Trump brigade to get way out there with accusations and smears and fake polls.
Ignore it - it's the last gasps of a dying regime
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Bush 2 was in the 90s
JGug1
(320 posts)It isn't true.
Trump got a bump as the leader during crisis. I noted today that the bump was disappearing. In addition, a couple of polls show Biden beating Trump in key counties by *25* points. Am I comfortable? NO WAY and I won't be until Trump is out of the White House. But, he isn't leading Biden.
dlk
(11,549 posts)One important factor is the statistical significance of the sample- how many were polled and whom. I wouldnt pay any attention to this particular poll result, especially when Trumps response to this crisis has been so criminally negligent. Some media outlets are completely sold on the horse race meme, even in these dire, life-threatening circumstances.
budkin
(6,699 posts)Biden is leading by 10+ in recent polls.