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EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:08 AM Apr 2020

"Unemployment will remain elevated as workers learn of generous benefits..."

The COVID-19 pandemic rages on, and the damage being done to the U.S. economy is expected to only get worse.

The U.S. Labor Department will release fresh data at 8:30 a.m. ET on Thursday morning that will show the effect of the novel coronavirus on employment in the U.S. The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits is expected to spike to a record-breaking 3.7 million for the week ended March 28, up from 3.283 million the week prior. Prior to the week ended March 21, the previous record was 695,000 claims filed the week ended October 2, 1982.

Though consensus estimates were for 3.7 million initial jobless claims for the week ended March 28, the range of estimates on Wall Street are wide, but the major firms expect the number to be in the millions. On the high end, Goldman Sachs expects 6 million claims for the week. Not far behind are Bank of America and Pantheon Macroeconomics expecting 5.5 million claims, while on the lower end, JPMorgan Asset Management predicts 2 million claims.

Claims are likely to remain elevated throughout April, especially as more business owners and workers learn about the more generous unemployment insurance benefits included in the Phase 3 legislation,“ Goldman Sachs economist David Mericle argued.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-covid-weekly-initial-jobless-claims-march-28-165758189.html

No; the workforce isn’t terrified of COVID; they’re just looking forward to the opportunity to sit home; lazy; and collect the generous outpouring of unemployment benefits...

/sarcasm

We lost one full time income permanently; our retirement savings decimated; and our healthcare evaporated from the fallout to the pandemic.

I can assure you that this “generous” conciliatory gesture is devastating to our household.

Who writes this sh*t?

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"Unemployment will remain elevated as workers learn of generous benefits..." (Original Post) EarthFirst Apr 2020 OP
Goldman Sachs economist says...n/t DEbluedude Apr 2020 #1
Exactly. nt EarthFirst Apr 2020 #2
Who writes it is a good question...a better question is who the fuck BELIEVES it??? Moostache Apr 2020 #3
Yes, benefits like drastically increasing your chances of not getting or spreading COVID ck4829 Apr 2020 #4
I used to help a friend file for his, he wasn't internet savvy. dewsgirl Apr 2020 #5
Reason True Blue American Apr 2020 #7
I have been on UEC twice in the last two decades Cosmocat Apr 2020 #8
because business wants SLAVE labor rates and the thought they would have to "raise" pay to attract beachbumbob Apr 2020 #6
TRUE DAT!!! librechik Apr 2020 #18
Ummm, that's not how unemployment works... haele Apr 2020 #9
Excellent Post ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #10
Those rules do not currently apply. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2020 #14
I find it to be a very demeaning comment. damn riversedge Apr 2020 #11
I think that line is being misinterpreted in the OP. thesquanderer Apr 2020 #19
The same fool who said this just 3 months ago: Don't look now, but Goldman Sachs is saying the Celerity Apr 2020 #12
Goldman Sachs Cares... Dirty Socialist Apr 2020 #13
Another monster Blecht Apr 2020 #15
For many it's the first break they've had in years... lame54 Apr 2020 #16
Soon... greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #17
This is rather disturbing. tritsofme Apr 2020 #20

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
3. Who writes it is a good question...a better question is who the fuck BELIEVES it???
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:15 AM
Apr 2020

It takes a special kind of warped mind to see through this fucked up, acid-trip prism of reality....where people are GLAD to be receiving desperation level 'benefits'?

JF'nC...to actually SEE the world through that lens is monstrous and why the old system has to completely die during this crisis and be replaced with something else, something...anything better. Otherwise, the dead are dying in vain, the heroes risking all for them are doing so in vain and we will be back here again too soon to ponder...

ck4829

(35,062 posts)
4. Yes, benefits like drastically increasing your chances of not getting or spreading COVID
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:16 AM
Apr 2020

These guys provide ammo for those who make caricatures of capitalism.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
5. I used to help a friend file for his, he wasn't internet savvy.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:30 AM
Apr 2020

He recieved maybe 275 a week and had to jump through hoops to receive those. What are these generous benefits they are speaking of?

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
7. Reason
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:43 AM
Apr 2020

5 Republicans, including Lindsey tried to derail the bill because it provided $600 a week! More than some of them make! The hypocrisy of those making huge salaries for destroying the country upset a worker might get a few dollars more is sickening.

I hope the voters remember this!

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. because business wants SLAVE labor rates and the thought they would have to "raise" pay to attract
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:33 AM
Apr 2020

workers is abhorrent to them

haele

(12,647 posts)
9. Ummm, that's not how unemployment works...
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 09:05 AM
Apr 2020

You still have to either be out looking for a job in your location for unemployment. If people are hiring, you have to take any reasonable offer for your training/skills or explain why you aren't going to take it. After being on unemployment for three weeks, I took the offer of an engineering position that wasn't going to start for another four weeks and still had to go to a UE hearing on week six to explain why I stopped looking before they would pay the final two weeks. Even though I was going to start work again in two weeks.
Most states won't allow you to stop applying for jobs. You aren't going to be just sitting at home if jobs are available, even if they're going to be paying a bit more.
That is, unless you're a Republican with the emotional maturity of privileged 12 year old who privately thinks "real work" is sitting in a big chair pontificating and running business like a personal ATM. That labor is for chumps and idiots.

Haele.

riversedge

(70,192 posts)
11. I find it to be a very demeaning comment. damn
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 10:41 AM
Apr 2020



............Claims are likely to remain elevated throughout April, especially as more business owners and workers learn about the more generous unemployment insurance benefits included in the Phase 3 legislation,“ Goldman Sachs economist David Mericle argued.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
19. I think that line is being misinterpreted in the OP.
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 12:15 PM
Apr 2020

To me, the implication here is not necessarily that workers are "looking forward to the opportunity to sit home; lazy; and collect the generous outpouring of unemployment benefits." Rather than being demeaning. I think it reflects some simple realities.

For example, a compassionate business owner trying hard to not fire people or cut their hours may be more willing to let those people go once s/he sees a stronger safety net being provided for them. A worker who is at higher risk (older, health conditions) may be more willing to stay home and safe rather than work, once s/he knows there will be enough money coming in to make that option more viable.

IOW, it is simply logical that the availability of better unemployment support will factor into people's decisions about employment. I don't think this implies laziness on anyone's part.

Celerity

(43,328 posts)
12. The same fool who said this just 3 months ago: Don't look now, but Goldman Sachs is saying the
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 10:46 AM
Apr 2020
economy is nearly recession-proof

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/31/goldman-sachs-is-saying-the-economy-is-nearly-recession-proof.html

“Overall, the changes underlying the Great Moderation appear intact, and we see the economy as structurally less recession-prone today,” Goldman economists Jan Hatzius and David Mericle wrote. “While new risks could emerge, none of the main sources of recent recessions — oil shocks, inflationary overheating, and financial imbalances — seem too concerning for now. As a result, the prospects for a soft landing look better than widely thought.”

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
15. Another monster
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 12:07 PM
Apr 2020

David Fucking Mericle

Add him to the list of people that I hope I never run into -- I really don't want to commit a violent crime.

lame54

(35,285 posts)
16. For many it's the first break they've had in years...
Thu Apr 2, 2020, 12:09 PM
Apr 2020

But people want to work
The longer this goes on the more they will want to get back to it

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