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THEY ALL KNEW AND THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU. (Original Post) kpete Apr 2020 OP
And China explicitly warned Trump's CDC on January 3: dalton99a Apr 2020 #1
Note Redfield is a political appointee exboyfil Apr 2020 #2
Excellent information. Thank you. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #3
⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ spanone Apr 2020 #29
Not only did they not tell us, they made stock trades to enrich themselves... Trueblue Texan Apr 2020 #4
They rushed with all speed... Cracklin Charlie Apr 2020 #6
Yep. dalton99a Apr 2020 #9
+1 Here's another one, GA Sen. Perdue Who Bought Up Stocks (Daily Kos, April 6, 2020) appalachiablue Apr 2020 #13
And, they LIED about what they knew! Trueblue Texan Apr 2020 #37
They were busy finding out how to make money malaise Apr 2020 #5
ABSOLUTELY! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #7
They didn't just fail to tell us gratuitous Apr 2020 #8
Yup, "hoax", "under control", "down to zero soon" etc. flibbitygiblets Apr 2020 #10
+1000 (nt) scarletwoman Apr 2020 #30
January 3 they were informed. God the GOP is despicable. Blood on their hands. Evolve Dammit Apr 2020 #11
Yep. calimary Apr 2020 #16
Despicably deplorable. czarjak Apr 2020 #32
Hillary should have broadened the basic "basket of..." to despicable basket of.. So true Evolve Dammit Apr 2020 #38
AND they're the reason we now have this virulent strain of stupidity like 'It's like the flu' AtheistCrusader Apr 2020 #12
Yep. calimary Apr 2020 #17
This is beyond reprehensible, and corporate media is complicit. I look at the timelinne and believe c-rational Apr 2020 #14
Yep. calimary Apr 2020 #18
Re: Corporate media is complicit DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #21
Agreed. c-rational Apr 2020 #36
Hey, C-rational DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #43
Tv should be a public service I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #39
There used to be a "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE" DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #41
From your reply above, yes I do remember Pravda. Regarding the Fairness Doctrine, it was c-rational Apr 2020 #45
Some times? DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #42
AND you can count on the fact that THEY ALL MADE $$$$ with this knowledge! SayItLoud Apr 2020 #15
Yep. calimary Apr 2020 #19
many of the rs said they wanted to kill us off and have been saying this secretly AllaN01Bear Apr 2020 #20
It is gallows-worthy. dchill Apr 2020 #22
Impeachable I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #40
LIHOP Roland99 Apr 2020 #23
No mihop I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #46
Of course! They already got their schtick set..45 didn't Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2020 #24
Dipshit just tweeted this. Loading their guns. They Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2020 #25
LIHOP Ad Infinitum Apr 2020 #26
To be honest ... GeorgeGist Apr 2020 #27
I hope that the Democratic Party is accumulating and sorting through all of these facts, and... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #28
A Shock Doctrine Moment Auggie Apr 2020 #31
Of course, they knew peggysue2 Apr 2020 #33
Same here shanti Apr 2020 #44
Lying is not their fall-back position Grins Apr 2020 #34
will it be brought up at today's press conference IcyPeas Apr 2020 #35

dalton99a

(81,433 posts)
1. And China explicitly warned Trump's CDC on January 3:
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020
The NSC, which operates within the White House to coordinate policies and recommendations involving national security across agencies, was at the center of the effort to formulate the early response to the outbreak.

The council was first notified of the outbreak on the morning of Dec. 31, according to one of the government officials involved, when an NSC official was forwarded an email from a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) attache in Beijing that had been sent to senior HHS officials the night before.

The “pop-a-flare” notice, as it is known, described strange cases of pneumonia that could not be definitively traced to seasonal flu, said the government official, who saw the message. The email said the Chinese would soon be notifying the World Health Organization, the official said.

On Jan. 3, Dr. Gao Fu, head of China’s disease control agency, informed his U.S. counterpart, Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the CDC, in an emotional telephone call that the outbreak was growing out of control, according to the same federal official and a former NSC official. Both said they had been informed of the details.

Gao’s agency did not respond to a request for comment.

Ullyot, the NSC spokesman, disputed the timeline, saying the council did not learn of the coronavirus outbreak until Jan. 3. The CDC, a part of HHS, confirmed to Reuters that it learned of an outbreak in late December and that the call with Gao occurred Jan. 3.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-nsc/as-trump-administration-debated-travel-restrictions-thousands-streamed-in-from-china-idUSKBN21N0EJ

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. Note Redfield is a political appointee
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:38 AM
Apr 2020

I think Congress needs to get him in front of some questioning.

Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
4. Not only did they not tell us, they made stock trades to enrich themselves...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:38 AM
Apr 2020

...while leaving millions of Americans vulnerable financially and in health. They turned a profit off the misery that is coming to us. Some people may have voted for this, but millions of us voted for Hillary instead. WE DO NOT DESERVE THIS!

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. They rushed with all speed...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:41 AM
Apr 2020

To call their brokers, so that they could make buckets of money off their fellow citizens misery.

Shameless.

Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
37. And, they LIED about what they knew!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:18 PM
Apr 2020

Trump said it was a Democrat hoax, when he already KNEW it would kill hundreds of thousands of Americans!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. They didn't just fail to tell us
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:46 AM
Apr 2020

They actively lied to the public, downplaying the situation as it developed, and verbally abusing people who were trying to sound the alarm. The administration took affirmative steps to make the situation worse.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
10. Yup, "hoax", "under control", "down to zero soon" etc.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:56 AM
Apr 2020

while they cashed in, and continue to do so to this day, making $ on tests, PPE etc.

c-rational

(2,590 posts)
14. This is beyond reprehensible, and corporate media is complicit. I look at the timelinne and believe
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

the dotard must have been so filled with rage that he was being impeached that he would willingly crash America. His recent firing of the Inspector General is this POS's attempt to cover his tracks. He and all rethugs need to be held accountable - thrown out of office, and a rewrite of Fairness Doctrine cannot happen soon enough.

DENVERPOPS

(8,806 posts)
21. Re: Corporate media is complicit
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:08 PM
Apr 2020

People just don't understand, that it is not just Fox News and Limpballs, it is the ENTIRE countries Media that are doing just as much as those two. 80+% of all media in the U.S. is owned by Republicans........They write incredibly slanted stories, ignore facts that hurt their party, and are every bit as complicit as Fox and Rightwing hate radio across the nations.

DENVERPOPS

(8,806 posts)
43. Hey, C-rational
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:03 PM
Apr 2020

Are you old enough to remember PRAVDA, the Russians gov't owned news service during the Cold War???????

Many of us who were watching the rhetoric that the only Russian news the people could watch was despicable. We could only think of 1984 and laugh.

Who's laughing now............

A friend, who came to the U.S. from Russia twenty years ago and became a U.S. Citizen, and I were talking last week....He is still in contact with his friends and family in Russia. He says that the Russian People are watching what is happening in the U.S. and are all amazed at how easy it has been for Putin to play Trump and his band of merry Republicans.......They say that it is most interesting how Putin has succeeded in destroying Democracy in America, and he didn't even have to be involved, or fire a single missile or rocket.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
39. Tv should be a public service
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:56 AM
Apr 2020

Fuck those repig owners for abusing the airwaves and the people.sometimes privatization causes harm.

DENVERPOPS

(8,806 posts)
41. There used to be a "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE"
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:46 AM
Apr 2020

Where, if you gave free time to one political party or candidate, you had to give the other political party the same amount of free time.

I'm not sure when got it thrown out, but it is no longer there!

I'll tell you, the Republican Cabal is at work and taking free camera time everyday, and then stating that it is for updating everyone on the status of the Virus. Trump spends two minutes lying about his dealing with the virus, then goes on with an hour long campaign advertisement complete with copious amounts of self agrandizement...

I don't notice ABC, NBC, or CBS doing anything about giving free time for a rebuttal of Lardass's inane drivel, or verbal diarrhea.
Why? Because 80+% of ALL MEDIA in the U.S. is owned by Republicons.

There also used to be laws about the amount of media ownership one person could buy in the U.S.. You couldn't have unlimited media ownership, as is the case today.. That too went away. Probably during the Reagan administration.....

Short of some miracle taking place, I seriously expect that infinite things will be done by this Republican cabal, and Trump.
The way they are flagrantly disobeying all rules, and all laws, with no accountability, I believe their actions will include fixing the Presidential Election.

WASF

c-rational

(2,590 posts)
45. From your reply above, yes I do remember Pravda. Regarding the Fairness Doctrine, it was
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 03:20 PM
Apr 2020

eliminated during Regans rule, and the issue of media ownership was decimated under Bush2 by Michael Powell (Colin Powell"'s son). I said at the time that rule took more freedom from American's than the 911 attaacks. It is good to remember.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
15. AND you can count on the fact that THEY ALL MADE $$$$ with this knowledge!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:41 AM
Apr 2020

They are EVIL, crooked money grubbing grifters (E. Warren) but for sure they KNOW HOW TO profit from the misfortunes of others.....AND INSIDER INFORMATION !

AllaN01Bear

(18,123 posts)
20. many of the rs said they wanted to kill us off and have been saying this secretly
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:45 AM
Apr 2020

for the last 30 years that theyd love to get rid of us seiniors , disabled and so on. i think this may be another impeachable ofence.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Of course! They already got their schtick set..45 didn't
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:43 PM
Apr 2020

want to scare people, China withheld info, Pelosi, Biden, Sanders all have out-of-context soundbites against ban.

Not saying any of that outweighs the horror in any way. Just saying we need a good strategy to combat.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Dipshit just tweeted this. Loading their guns. They
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:53 PM
Apr 2020

Know what's coming. Blame game amping up


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 1h
The W.H.O. really blew it. For some reason, funded largely by the United States, yet very China centric. We will be giving that a good look. Fortunately I rejected their advice on keeping our borders open to China early on. Why did they give us such a faulty recommendation?

 

Ad Infinitum

(74 posts)
26. LIHOP
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 12:54 PM
Apr 2020




This is unrolling like a scripted plot.
Perhaps a plan looking for an opportunity.
It is a coup, while everyone is distracted tryi ng to
keep self, family and friends from becoming a statistic.
he will skulk around and continue to rip this country apart.

Disaster means money





Fight fight fight



SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
28. I hope that the Democratic Party is accumulating and sorting through all of these facts, and...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:01 PM
Apr 2020

evidence of crimes (insider trading) and then nail it to these people, who even worse, failed to perform their duties in protecting American lives. They FAILED.

They had no other duties other than this.

Guess what they were interested in? A few bucks at our expense, literally. I guess we need to get out the 30 pieces of silver and mail them to each of the traitors.

They killed Americans, by failing to do their duty. They knew that the CV was this deadly and failed to warn us.

By the way, I heard that the SEC is looking into these sales...

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
33. Of course, they knew
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 01:51 PM
Apr 2020

If I knew--an ordinary citizen--they knew. I was tapping published reports and doing internet searches without the benefit of US intelligence/Pentagon reports or Chinese officials calling me on the phone to warn of an out-of-control viral spread.

This is what Trump's defensive posture is all about. They knew and sat on the information. They ignored the threat and put the citizens of the United States at great risk because the 'some people said' the country could ride it out was Trump and his ignorant advisors. This Administration squandered 6-8 weeks during which they could have prepared, could have warned, could have reduced the chaos. Instead, they denied the severity of the virus and worked tirelessly to spread disinformation.

Trump and his enablers are responsible, accountable, utterly shameless.

Never forget, never forgive.

Btw, the chaos in Wisconsin today? This is a precursor of what the GOP and Trump will try in November. They will do anything to stay in power because they know once they lose the reins, the power of Heaven and Hell will be coming for them.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
44. Same here
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:11 PM
Apr 2020

I knew, and I'm a nobody. I was even sufficiently freaked out to buy a N99 mask on Amazon in mid-January, and was mocked for it. THEY KNEW.

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
35. will it be brought up at today's press conference
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 02:53 PM
Apr 2020

does one of the reporters have the guts to ask this.

the reporters are useless

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