General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTHEY ALL KNEW AND THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU.
"In late January, President Trump's economic adviser Peter Navarro warned his White House colleagues the novel coronavirus could take more than half a million American lives and cost close to $6 trillion, according to memos obtained by Axios."
https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro-deaths-coronavirus-memos-january-da3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html
Link to tweet
?s=20
https://www.balloon-juice.com/2020/04/07/what-they-knew-and-when-they-knew-it/
dalton99a
(81,433 posts)The council was first notified of the outbreak on the morning of Dec. 31, according to one of the government officials involved, when an NSC official was forwarded an email from a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) attache in Beijing that had been sent to senior HHS officials the night before.
The pop-a-flare notice, as it is known, described strange cases of pneumonia that could not be definitively traced to seasonal flu, said the government official, who saw the message. The email said the Chinese would soon be notifying the World Health Organization, the official said.
On Jan. 3, Dr. Gao Fu, head of Chinas disease control agency, informed his U.S. counterpart, Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the CDC, in an emotional telephone call that the outbreak was growing out of control, according to the same federal official and a former NSC official. Both said they had been informed of the details.
Gaos agency did not respond to a request for comment.
Ullyot, the NSC spokesman, disputed the timeline, saying the council did not learn of the coronavirus outbreak until Jan. 3. The CDC, a part of HHS, confirmed to Reuters that it learned of an outbreak in late December and that the call with Gao occurred Jan. 3.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-nsc/as-trump-administration-debated-travel-restrictions-thousands-streamed-in-from-china-idUSKBN21N0EJ
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)I think Congress needs to get him in front of some questioning.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
spanone
(135,816 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,425 posts)...while leaving millions of Americans vulnerable financially and in health. They turned a profit off the misery that is coming to us. Some people may have voted for this, but millions of us voted for Hillary instead. WE DO NOT DESERVE THIS!
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)To call their brokers, so that they could make buckets of money off their fellow citizens misery.
Shameless.
dalton99a
(81,433 posts)appalachiablue
(41,118 posts)- REPUBLICAN SEN. PERDUE (GA) BOUGHT A BOATLOAD OF PPE STOCKS THE SAME DAY HE WAS BRIEFED ON CORONAVIRUS
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/6/1934983/-Republican-Sen-Perdue-bought-a-boatload-of-PPE-stocks-the-same-day-he-was-briefed-on-coronavirus
Trueblue Texan
(2,425 posts)Trump said it was a Democrat hoax, when he already KNEW it would kill hundreds of thousands of Americans!
malaise
(268,902 posts)off the pandemic
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)K&R!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)They actively lied to the public, downplaying the situation as it developed, and verbally abusing people who were trying to sound the alarm. The administration took affirmative steps to make the situation worse.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)while they cashed in, and continue to do so to this day, making $ on tests, PPE etc.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)calimary
(81,198 posts)czarjak
(11,266 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)calimary
(81,198 posts)c-rational
(2,590 posts)the dotard must have been so filled with rage that he was being impeached that he would willingly crash America. His recent firing of the Inspector General is this POS's attempt to cover his tracks. He and all rethugs need to be held accountable - thrown out of office, and a rewrite of Fairness Doctrine cannot happen soon enough.
DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)People just don't understand, that it is not just Fox News and Limpballs, it is the ENTIRE countries Media that are doing just as much as those two. 80+% of all media in the U.S. is owned by Republicans........They write incredibly slanted stories, ignore facts that hurt their party, and are every bit as complicit as Fox and Rightwing hate radio across the nations.
c-rational
(2,590 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)Are you old enough to remember PRAVDA, the Russians gov't owned news service during the Cold War???????
Many of us who were watching the rhetoric that the only Russian news the people could watch was despicable. We could only think of 1984 and laugh.
Who's laughing now............
A friend, who came to the U.S. from Russia twenty years ago and became a U.S. Citizen, and I were talking last week....He is still in contact with his friends and family in Russia. He says that the Russian People are watching what is happening in the U.S. and are all amazed at how easy it has been for Putin to play Trump and his band of merry Republicans.......They say that it is most interesting how Putin has succeeded in destroying Democracy in America, and he didn't even have to be involved, or fire a single missile or rocket.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)Fuck those repig owners for abusing the airwaves and the people.sometimes privatization causes harm.
DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)Where, if you gave free time to one political party or candidate, you had to give the other political party the same amount of free time.
I'm not sure when got it thrown out, but it is no longer there!
I'll tell you, the Republican Cabal is at work and taking free camera time everyday, and then stating that it is for updating everyone on the status of the Virus. Trump spends two minutes lying about his dealing with the virus, then goes on with an hour long campaign advertisement complete with copious amounts of self agrandizement...
I don't notice ABC, NBC, or CBS doing anything about giving free time for a rebuttal of Lardass's inane drivel, or verbal diarrhea.
Why? Because 80+% of ALL MEDIA in the U.S. is owned by Republicons.
There also used to be laws about the amount of media ownership one person could buy in the U.S.. You couldn't have unlimited media ownership, as is the case today.. That too went away. Probably during the Reagan administration.....
Short of some miracle taking place, I seriously expect that infinite things will be done by this Republican cabal, and Trump.
The way they are flagrantly disobeying all rules, and all laws, with no accountability, I believe their actions will include fixing the Presidential Election.
WASF
c-rational
(2,590 posts)eliminated during Regans rule, and the issue of media ownership was decimated under Bush2 by Michael Powell (Colin Powell"'s son). I said at the time that rule took more freedom from American's than the 911 attaacks. It is good to remember.
DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)Privatize the profits, and publicize the expense.........
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)They are EVIL, crooked money grubbing grifters (E. Warren) but for sure they KNOW HOW TO profit from the misfortunes of others.....AND INSIDER INFORMATION !
AllaN01Bear
(18,123 posts)for the last 30 years that theyd love to get rid of us seiniors , disabled and so on. i think this may be another impeachable ofence.
dchill
(38,465 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)And crimes by the whole repig party of traitors.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)Look at the evidence. Premeditated.for profit.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)want to scare people, China withheld info, Pelosi, Biden, Sanders all have out-of-context soundbites against ban.
Not saying any of that outweighs the horror in any way. Just saying we need a good strategy to combat.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Know what's coming. Blame game amping up
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 1h
The W.H.O. really blew it. For some reason, funded largely by the United States, yet very China centric. We will be giving that a good look. Fortunately I rejected their advice on keeping our borders open to China early on. Why did they give us such a faulty recommendation?
This is unrolling like a scripted plot.
Perhaps a plan looking for an opportunity.
It is a coup, while everyone is distracted tryi ng to
keep self, family and friends from becoming a statistic.
he will skulk around and continue to rip this country apart.
Disaster means money
Fight fight fight
GeorgeGist
(25,318 posts)it wouldn't believe Navarro either.
SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)evidence of crimes (insider trading) and then nail it to these people, who even worse, failed to perform their duties in protecting American lives. They FAILED.
They had no other duties other than this.
Guess what they were interested in? A few bucks at our expense, literally. I guess we need to get out the 30 pieces of silver and mail them to each of the traitors.
They killed Americans, by failing to do their duty. They knew that the CV was this deadly and failed to warn us.
By the way, I heard that the SEC is looking into these sales...
Auggie
(31,158 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)If I knew--an ordinary citizen--they knew. I was tapping published reports and doing internet searches without the benefit of US intelligence/Pentagon reports or Chinese officials calling me on the phone to warn of an out-of-control viral spread.
This is what Trump's defensive posture is all about. They knew and sat on the information. They ignored the threat and put the citizens of the United States at great risk because the 'some people said' the country could ride it out was Trump and his ignorant advisors. This Administration squandered 6-8 weeks during which they could have prepared, could have warned, could have reduced the chaos. Instead, they denied the severity of the virus and worked tirelessly to spread disinformation.
Trump and his enablers are responsible, accountable, utterly shameless.
Never forget, never forgive.
Btw, the chaos in Wisconsin today? This is a precursor of what the GOP and Trump will try in November. They will do anything to stay in power because they know once they lose the reins, the power of Heaven and Hell will be coming for them.
shanti
(21,675 posts)I knew, and I'm a nobody. I was even sufficiently freaked out to buy a N99 mask on Amazon in mid-January, and was mocked for it. THEY KNEW.
Grins
(7,205 posts)It is their go-to first position.
IcyPeas
(21,857 posts)does one of the reporters have the guts to ask this.
the reporters are useless