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moobu2

(4,822 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:34 AM Sep 2012

Seems like our embassy's would have a panic rooms.

A safe room large enough and self contained with communications, oxygen and food where a small group of people could safely wait rescue during an attack. Especially in unstable countries.

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Seems like our embassy's would have a panic rooms. (Original Post) moobu2 Sep 2012 OP
Sure atreides1 Sep 2012 #1
They do Proud Public Servant Sep 2012 #2
Couldn't ventilation be contained in some way? For a short duration? randome Sep 2012 #4
I'm no engineer either, but Proud Public Servant Sep 2012 #8
This was a new consulate office, not the main embassy Marrah_G Sep 2012 #3
The compound/consulate in Benghazi wasn't an embassy alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #5
The ambassador was in a car....... panader0 Sep 2012 #6
Yep. He was killed on the way into or out of the embassy. n/t renie408 Sep 2012 #7
A Libyan minister says 2 of the 4 were killed in an attack on a 'safe house' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #9
this was a temporary setup in a leased building while the new embassy was being built magical thyme Sep 2012 #10
the embassy was temporarily in a leased building while secure building under construction librechik Sep 2012 #11
Iraq $900 million embassy has one, BUT benld74 Sep 2012 #12

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
2. They do
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:45 AM
Sep 2012

Not sure what happened in Libya, but I would note that even safe rooms have to be ventilated, and it sounds like Amb. Stevens died of smoke inhalation. By way of comparison, the harrowing opening chapter of Ghost Wars, Steve Cole's excellent book about the CIA in Afghanistan, discusses the attack on our embassy in Islamabad in the 70s; embassy personnel almost suffocated to death precisely because they'd gone to the safehaven, and it was ultimately fleeing the safehaven and climbing to the fresh air on the roof that saved their lives.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Couldn't ventilation be contained in some way? For a short duration?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:48 AM
Sep 2012

I lack the engineering creds to know if this is a stupid question or not.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
8. I'm no engineer either, but
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:33 PM
Sep 2012

you crowd a lot of people into a small room and you need real ventilation in very short order.

That doesn't sound like the issue in Benghazi, but it was in Islamabad and would be at other embassies (I've served in serveral).

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. The compound/consulate in Benghazi wasn't an embassy
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:48 AM
Sep 2012

Embassies, in addition to usually having some sort of safe room, will generally be located in the capital of a country, which, in Libya's case, would be Tripoli. The building in Benghazi was not an embassy, so your question is rather beside the point.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
9. A Libyan minister says 2 of the 4 were killed in an attack on a 'safe house'
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:38 PM
Sep 2012
Gunmen had attacked and set fire to the U.S. consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi, the cradle of last year's uprising against Muammar Gaddafi's 42-year rule, late on Tuesday evening as another assault was mounted on the U.S. embassy in Cairo.

California-born ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed in the assault, but it was not clear how or where he died. U.S. consular staff were rushed to a safe house after the initial attack, Libya's Deputy Interior Minister Wanis Al-Sharif said.

An evacuation plane with U.S. commandos units then arrived from Tripoli to evacuate them from the house.

"It was supposed to be a secret place and we were surprised the armed groups knew about it. There was shooting," Sharif said. Two U.S. personnel were killed there, he said. Two other people were killed at the main consular building and between 12 and 17 wounded.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/uk-libya-usa-attack-idUKBRE88B0ED20120912


So, not a 'panic room', but it seems they had planned a way to evacuate. Either they were followed, or someone had information about the safe house, if that's accurate.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
10. this was a temporary setup in a leased building while the new embassy was being built
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:46 PM
Sep 2012

so it was known as a particularly dangerous assignment because it wasn't in a normal, "hardened" building or compound.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
11. the embassy was temporarily in a leased building while secure building under construction
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:48 PM
Sep 2012

probably anyone could have located the building map.

And no hardened rooms.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
12. Iraq $900 million embassy has one, BUT
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
Sep 2012

there is NOTHING that can be done against either missles or mortars being used against it.

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