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liberal N proud

(60,298 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 06:59 AM Apr 2020

So the latest I hear from trump cultist

Cultist is now what a call the trump supporters.

This am I am hearing the latest conspiracy from the cultist is that the virus “escaped” a virus lab in China.

That conspiracy thinking can only come from one place.

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So the latest I hear from trump cultist (Original Post) liberal N proud Apr 2020 OP
That can't be. It's caused by 5G. So sayeth last night's guest astrologer, Barbara Hand Clow, on mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #1
Sorry, my brain just collapsed . . .. hatrack Apr 2020 #12
Have you tried putting Mars in retrograde? See if that helps. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #14
You mean, playing Gustav Holst backwards? hatrack Apr 2020 #19
It's Both ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #17
I asked one cultist what Trump did in February re. Corona dem4decades Apr 2020 #2
It may well be true... and had been speculated for months FBaggins Apr 2020 #3
Right Ponietz Apr 2020 #6
Yes. Facts matter. steventh Apr 2020 #15
see this thread from kentuck rampartc Apr 2020 #4
We aren't sure that it didn't underpants Apr 2020 #5
I personally am inclined to believe that it's bioengineered PCIntern Apr 2020 #7
From CNN. I see that the cult wants to distract. The origin really doesn't matter underpants Apr 2020 #8
I understand. PCIntern Apr 2020 #11
One of the ways labs study viruses greymattermom Apr 2020 #9
There is actually evidence for this Drahthaardogs Apr 2020 #10
We will probably never know (with certainty) the origins of this virus. harumph Apr 2020 #13
Even if it was mixed up in Dr. Wang's kitchen sink as a cure for hangover Chainfire Apr 2020 #16
doesn't matter where it came from, Trump bungled the response. "it's a hoaxxxxxxxxxxx" Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #18
https://www.newsweek.com/military-general-says-intelligence-remains-inconclusive-about-whether-coron mikewv Apr 2020 #20
If I was going to dream-up a right-wing conspiracy... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #21

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,885 posts)
1. That can't be. It's caused by 5G. So sayeth last night's guest astrologer, Barbara Hand Clow, on
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:05 AM
Apr 2020
Coast to Coast AM.

In the first half, macro-astrologer, author, and expert in the Mayan calendar, Barbara Hand Clow spoke about her work on the massive transformative changes that Earth is going through. Astrologically, we are in for a difficult time, she pointed out, as Jupiter/Saturn/Pluto are in Capricorn and conjunct each other at different points in 2020, as we head in the Aquarian Age (which will immerse us in technology even more). Talking about how electrical fields can adversely affect human health, Hand Clow drew parallels at various junctures: 1889-- when there was a flu pandemic just as power lines were being strung up; 1918-- the creation of radio at the time of the Spanish Flu; 1957-- the start of radar arrived with the Asian Flu; 1968-- satellites in the air and the Hong Kong Flu; 1996-- cell towers and another major flu. And in 2019, Wuhan, China initiated 5G technology (as well as Northern Italy), which she associates with the spread of the novel coronavirus.

The vast majority of people learn to adjust to new frequencies in the environment, she continued, but "we've got to put that into the equation in terms of trying to figure out how to open the economy back up." Cellular technology is activating new levels in our brains, and creating a "multidimensional response"-- possibly the next stage in evolution, she suggested. Hand Clow also talked about her fictional trilogy of books set between the years 2011 and 2020, beginning with the end of the Mayan calendar, and going to a world implosion around the Spring Equinox of 2020 (such as we're experiencing with COVID-19). The astrological chart at the Winter Solstice (just before Christmas 2020), sees a return of the dwarf planet Sedna, last in this position during a cataclysm some 12,000 years ago, she detailed. During the fourth hour, callers shared how they were faring in the pandemic shutdown, and Hand Clow gave them psychic/astrological readings.

Or maybe it's both.

Her assertions that radar did not exist until 1957 and satellites until 1968 are subject to debate.

ProfessorGAC

(64,413 posts)
17. It's Both
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:47 AM
Apr 2020

It's a sleeper virus activated by 5G!
Apparently this ninny hasn't heard of Chain Home (1940) or Sputnik (1957).

dem4decades

(11,241 posts)
2. I asked one cultist what Trump did in February re. Corona
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:06 AM
Apr 2020

And the talking point now is " he talked about it in the State of the Union address"

WTF, like that's something?

FBaggins

(26,693 posts)
3. It may well be true... and had been speculated for months
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:07 AM
Apr 2020

And I’m pretty sure that it has happened before.

The conspiracy theory wouldn’t be that it escaped from a lab... but that it was created intentionally and/or was intended as a bioweapon

steventh

(2,143 posts)
15. Yes. Facts matter.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:03 AM
Apr 2020

Thanks for the wise perspective. I look forward to more research on this important matter.

rampartc

(5,263 posts)
4. see this thread from kentuck
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:07 AM
Apr 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213295242

i don't guess trump actually spouted that story, but by leaving the question in the air "people are talking about ....."

the chinese propaganda is that americans brought the virus to wuhan for the asia military games in october.

underpants

(182,271 posts)
5. We aren't sure that it didn't
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:12 AM
Apr 2020

Haphazard Security and cleanliness. Ironically, low grade or misuse of PPE’s.

Of course this feeds right into conspiracy theories that it was on purpose or, part of the Chinese PR effort, it was the US military’s doing. Oh and it might have come from a lab in North Carolina.

PCIntern

(25,342 posts)
7. I personally am inclined to believe that it's bioengineered
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:17 AM
Apr 2020

But by whom and the mechanism of accident or purposeful release is in great question. None of these individuals possess one shred of morality or ethics.

I have my clinical and gut reasons for thinking this. And if He can have a gut reaction so can I.

underpants

(182,271 posts)
8. From CNN. I see that the cult wants to distract. The origin really doesn't matter
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:21 AM
Apr 2020

at this point. For future prevention yes. To boil it down to it’s simplicity - Trump February- that’s it.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/15/politics/us-intelligence-virus-started-chinese-lab/index.html

US intelligence and national security officials say the United States government is looking into the possibility that the novel coronavirus originated in a Chinese laboratory rather than a market, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter who caution it is premature to draw any conclusions.

PCIntern

(25,342 posts)
11. I understand.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:47 AM
Apr 2020

My point is that anyone who denies the possibility utterly of some form of bio-terrorism is not paying attention. It’s like those who purchase Tom Clancy and Robert Ludlum books, read them voraciously, and then when something out of the ordinary occurs, they say “it is just is one of those things”.

It may be naturally occurring. I woukd wish that it were true. I’m just not so sure that it is. Whether the RW uses that as a distraction for me is irrelevant to the possibility that it’s true.

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
9. One of the ways labs study viruses
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:23 AM
Apr 2020

is by passaging them from one host to another until they cause disease, then sequencing them to see what changes made that happen. So, actually, it could be both, that is, an animal virus that was created on purpose.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
10. There is actually evidence for this
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:36 AM
Apr 2020

Not that it is genetically engineered - it's not, but a scientist studying these viruses got sloppy.

harumph

(1,871 posts)
13. We will probably never know (with certainty) the origins of this virus.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:50 AM
Apr 2020

However, whether it was lab engineered, a wild type that escaped a lab somehow -or really did come straight from
a "wet market" does not seem relevant for treatment and containment efforts. We have to deal with it sanely.

Chainfire

(17,305 posts)
16. Even if it was mixed up in Dr. Wang's kitchen sink as a cure for hangover
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:39 AM
Apr 2020

It does not have any bearing on how our government failed to protect us when they had the chance.

The lab thing, until supported by strong evidence, sounds like just another smoke and mirrors distraction.

Now when Trump reopens the country, too soon, on his authority, and we get wave II, who are we going to blame?

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,846 posts)
21. If I was going to dream-up a right-wing conspiracy...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:13 AM
Apr 2020

... I’d keep the idea that the virus was created in a lab, and add it was the last resort of climate scientists to reduce greenhouse emissions.

And that the virus was designed to lurk in some cells, to keep attacking in waves. So social distancing would be a permanent way of life, thus reducing further population growth and concomitant greenhouse emissions.

And that it was designed to slowly kill so governments had time to unify against the pandemic, scrapping their nuclear weapons in the meantime.

All of it spearheaded by George Soros, Al Gore, etc.

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