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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:34 PM Jan 2012

An Appalling Idea, Even by Washington Standards

An Appalling Idea, Even by Washington Standards

Posted by: Robert Greenstein

For legislation to extend the payroll tax cut through the end of 2012, House Republicans are expected to push for a provision on unemployment insurance (UI) that is appalling even by current Washington standards. Neither President Obama nor Congress should accept any payroll-tax legislation that includes it. Here’s why:

The provision, part of a full-year payroll-tax bill that the House passed in December, would deny UI benefits to any worker who lacks a high school diploma or GED and is not enrolled in classes to get one or the other — regardless of how long the person worked or whether he or she has access to adult education, which itself has been subject to significant budget cuts in the past few years and is heavily oversubscribed.

The proposal would deny UI benefits to hundreds of thousands of workers — many of them middle-aged — who have worked hard, played by the rules, and effectively paid UI taxes for years and who then were laid off due to no fault of their own.

This would violate the basic compact that the UI system has embodied since its creation under President Roosevelt in 1935 — that people who have amassed a sufficient record of work, and on whose behalf UI taxes have faithfully been paid, may receive UI benefits for a temporary period if they are laid off and are searching for a new job.

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Republicans = morally bankrupt

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An Appalling Idea, Even by Washington Standards (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
dumbasses. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #1
Racist Charlatans ! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #6
Bab's saying " this is working out for them " Same orpupilofnature57 Jan 2012 #2
I think someone misspelled "appealing".. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #3
Excuse me? TheWraith Jan 2012 #7
I didn't say that was *my* interpretation.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #11
Just face it, fucking repuglickens gopiscrap Jan 2012 #5
Good god! NV Whino Jan 2012 #9
Great, punish workers with no education after cutting funds for adult education. great white snark Jan 2012 #10
So are republicans themseves morally bankrupt or is the position? n/t hootinholler Jan 2012 #12
Both, inseparable, equal. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #13
Interesting hootinholler Jan 2012 #15
Santorum is running around saying Obama is "elitist" because he wants everyone to go to college alcibiades_mystery Jan 2012 #14
Good point. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #19
They truly are despicable, each and every one of them... Spazito Jan 2012 #16
Extending and increasing the "temporary" reductions to FICA contributions.. bvar22 Jan 2012 #17
Actually, ProSense Jan 2012 #18
Then why not simply send out checks from the General Fund ("actually")... bvar22 Jan 2012 #23
This is the correct answer. nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #20
Why don't they just put one of these fu*ks on the record and say "we want you dead!" Earth_First Jan 2012 #21
Between stuff like this and drug screening this congress marlakay Jan 2012 #22

Response to orpupilofnature57 (Reply #4)

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
2. Bab's saying " this is working out for them " Same
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:43 PM
Jan 2012

mentality ,imposing the notion Ronnie Raygun used ," Anyone who wants a job ,has one " . Sycophants to their base ,at the expense of the human race.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. I think someone misspelled "appealing"..
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jan 2012

Because by Washington standards this is a very appealing bill.

Edited for speling.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
7. Excuse me?
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jan 2012

Would you like to elaborate on that? Because it sounded an awful lot like you were saying "Hey, it sounds good to me to institute extra obnoxious burdens on people who are already in a desperate situation!"

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. I didn't say that was *my* interpretation..
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jan 2012

But I'll bet there are plenty of people in DC who think it's a great idea..

My own situation is pretty damn dire, I haven't had a steady job in so long I'd have to get out a calendar to tell you just how long it has been and I'm old enough that I don't expect to ever work for someone else again but too young to get Medicare or SS.





Response to TheWraith (Reply #7)

gopiscrap

(23,725 posts)
5. Just face it, fucking repuglickens
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jan 2012

are nothing more than a bunch asshole, misogynist, racist, elitist, self centered, mean spirited neanderthals!!!!

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
10. Great, punish workers with no education after cutting funds for adult education.
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:51 PM
Jan 2012

Shameless. Fucking shameless.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
14. Santorum is running around saying Obama is "elitist" because he wants everyone to go to college
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jan 2012

Meanwhile, the Teabagger house is ready to punish anyone who hasn't finished fucking high school.

It's like high comedy, or would be if the stakes weren't so high.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
17. Extending and increasing the "temporary" reductions to FICA contributions..
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 06:19 PM
Jan 2012

...is an appalling idea.
This is a BIG Loser on BOTH counts,
so the inevitable "compromise" is going to suck hard.
The Republicans and their economic friends the "Centrist" Democrats have gotten very good at this game over the last 30 years.

Option 1 = SUCKS

Option 2 = Sucks HARDER.

America chooses Option 1,
the Parties "compromise" to Option 1.5,
and call it a bi-partisan "Victory".







You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. Actually,
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 06:23 PM
Jan 2012
Extending and increasing the "temporary" reductions to FICA contributions..

...is an appalling idea.
This is a BIG Loser on BOTH counts,
so the inevitable "compromise" is going to suck hard.
The Republicans and their economic friends the "Centrist" Democrats have gotten very good at this game over the last 30 years.

Option 1 = SUCKS

Option 2 = Sucks HARDER.

America chooses Option 1,
the Parties "compromise" to Option 1.5,
and call it a bi-partisan "Victory".


..."Option 1" is stimulus that puts money in the pockets of low- and middle-income Americans.

"Option 2," not only does the opposite, but also denies people a benefit they rightfully earned.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Then why not simply send out checks from the General Fund ("actually")...
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 12:41 AM
Jan 2012

....instead of the unprecedented linking of the funding for Social Security DIRECTLY to the General Fund.
WHY?

Payroll Tax Holiday Directly Connects Social Security to The Deficit]
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1538388|

If reducing FICA Contributions is such a good idea,
lets just do away with it all together!
Just imagine all that everlasting "stimulus"!!!!

The creators of the most successful Social Program EVER insisted on a separate an independent funding mechanism for a damned good reason.
Will you be honest and admit that you know WHY they designed it that way?

Do you believe FDR or LBJ would support a reduction in contributions to the system that funds Social Security?

"Payroll Tax Holiday" is Republican Framing worthy of Frank Luntz, like the "Death Tax",
and Who doesn't want a "Holiday"!!! Whoopeeee!
That STINKS,
and I HATE hearing Republican Framing coming out of the mouths of our Party leadership.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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marlakay

(11,425 posts)
22. Between stuff like this and drug screening this congress
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 09:52 PM
Jan 2012

that says it wants less government is trying to tell us exactly how to live our lives and what manor it should be when we live it. We should go to school, graduate, pray, get job, get married (to person of opposite sex) have lots of babies and of course go to church and have everything about it plastered all over schools, work, government etc.

Is this what america wants?

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