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bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:30 AM Sep 2012

RYAN: "Peace through strength works..." (oneliner in a speech given in DePere WI today)

Peace through Strength is a registered trademark of the American Security Council Foundation.

American Security Council Foundation website
http://www.ascfusa.org

Wikipedia Peace through strength entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_through_strength

What do you think peace really is, DU?

It isn't the old PNAC, Reagan, militarist goal of being the world's sole military superpower-no, not at all.

60% of our taxes currently go into defense-and, fwiw, the DoD under BUSH/CHENEY "lost" $1 trillion.

What else could peace be?

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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. They have no idea what strength is
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:32 AM
Sep 2012

Smashing the shit out of everything and swinging your guns around isn't strength. It's a display of fear and weakness.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
4. Ignorance is Strength was part of Newspeak, I recoiled when this came out of the mouth of Ryan too
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 01:59 AM
Sep 2012

Check this Sourcewatch page on The Committee on the Present Danger for more peace through strength history nadinbrzezinski.

Committee on the Present Danger
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Committee_on_the_Present_Danger

Lots of conservative Dems embraced this Cold War moneymaker too.
Context of "1978 Congress's Coalition of Peace Through Strength Opposes Arms Limitation Talks With Soviets" (History Commons)
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a1978asccpts

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
8. And "War Is Peace" was a 1984 slogan too
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:02 AM
Sep 2012

The tones become even more unpleasant when you recall the Nazi "Strength Through Joy" organisation ...

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
9. Kind of like our present astroturf front organizations with such innocuous names like Crossroads GPS
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:46 AM
Sep 2012

Americans for Prosperity, The US Chamber of Commerce, American Legislative Exchange Council. What's in a name anyway?

Peace through strength, that always works out well for the masters/mistresses of war, so well that it is a registered trademark...

Below is a handy synopsis of what you referenced, muriel_volestrangler, for those DUers that like to learn. The Germans never got that Volkswagen in every garage as promised, did they?

Strength Through Joy (History Learning Site UK entry)
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/strength_through_joy.htm

What is peace?

GeorgeGist

(25,319 posts)
7. Don't forget that our Department of Defense was inadequate to the task of defending US ...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:24 AM
Sep 2012

so we created a Department of Homeland Security.

We've all seen the lucrative clusterfuck that has produced.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
12. I believe it's like what my Governor with a criminal defense fund stated to his handlers-divide and
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:18 PM
Sep 2012

conquer. Eliminate ALL opposition of tptb. It's hard work, war, so let the mercenaries and robots do it. As for our troops, veterans and military families that have been broken or those that questioned criminal orders-tptb hire some replacements for those "whiners" and "losers". Human history is war imho.

Peace to you and your house from mine, Sir!

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