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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 06:34 AM Sep 2012

Nakoula/ Bacile -- a guy guilty of freakin' bank fraud -

Think about it. Who the hell is going to loan Nakoula -- a guy guilty of freakin' bank fraud -- the sum of five million dollars? Even if the actual budget was $50,000, how would this jailbird scrape up the dough? He was sent to prison for 21 months in 2010; how did he secure an early release?

Nakoula, who talked guardedly about his role, pleaded no contest in 2010 to federal bank fraud charges in California and was ordered to pay more than $790,000 in restitution. He was also sentenced to 21 months in federal prison and ordered not to use computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer.

And what sort of crook would make it his first order of business, after walking out of jail, to make a movie denigrating Mohammed -- a film intentionally designed to create an international incident? If you had no job, no prospects, a prison record and a debt of more than three-quarters of a million dollars, would your first instinct be to make a damned movie? Even though you've never made a movie before in your life?



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ifWYKzUPaqJJsJ5aj-58K0JCL1Fg?docId=91c9d18979f24144ba8ea358237f046f


Those blast shots are too accurate for sand people Luke.....



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Nakoula/ Bacile -- a guy guilty of freakin' bank fraud - (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 OP
There is NO doubt that that *film* cost no where near 5 million cali Sep 2012 #1
I said 50 grand. but it still doesn't address Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 #2
How would a guy guilty of bank fraud come up with money? jberryhill Sep 2012 #3
From a republicon PAC. mfcorey1 Sep 2012 #4
sugar daddy oldhippydude Sep 2012 #5
That was my first thought. hifiguy Sep 2012 #13
or the mossad, banksters, GOP etc Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 #6
Please explain why the Mossad would try to get Israelis and Americans killed. aquart Sep 2012 #7
Just stop ... Ian_rd Sep 2012 #10
Why not a Muslim Brotherhood false flag op? ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #12
yeah, I'll add them to the mix Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 #15
DemocracyNow is focusing on JUST this question.... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #8
All someone would have to do is follow the money. nc4bo Sep 2012 #9
The Great Islamophobic Crusade Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #11
Guy got clobbered, compared to Neil 'Silverado' Bush. Octafish Sep 2012 #14
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
1. There is NO doubt that that *film* cost no where near 5 million
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 06:38 AM
Sep 2012

it's estimated at under a 100 grand.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. How would a guy guilty of bank fraud come up with money?
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 06:52 AM
Sep 2012

If you think about that question for a couple of moments, I don't think you'll have to hire Sherlock Holmes.

How does a bootlegger come up with whiskey?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. That was my first thought.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

Adelson and/or KKKarl. Some journalist could make their bones digging in to this. It stinks to high heaven. It is unquestionably some kind of ratfuck.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
6. or the mossad, banksters, GOP etc
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:06 AM
Sep 2012

it definitely smells of a mass misinformation, redirection and a conspiracy because many were involved with this creep because
whoever offered him the deal must have been in a position to make his parole problems go away

aquart

(69,014 posts)
7. Please explain why the Mossad would try to get Israelis and Americans killed.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:21 AM
Sep 2012

Include why those professionals would choose demonstrably unreliable amateurs to work with.

I eagerly await your reasoned response.

Ian_rd

(2,124 posts)
10. Just stop ...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:44 AM
Sep 2012

There are plenty of fucktards in the United States who will pony up money to someone who announces a stunt to insult Muslims. Just ask Terry Jones. This guy could be mysterious for any number of reasons, not the least of which a likely fear of being personally targeted because of his own movie.

When you start implying a conspiracy, you start sounding like freepers who theorize that recent shootings are "false flag" operations by Obama in his secret campaign to take away our guns.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
12. Why not a Muslim Brotherhood false flag op?
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:24 AM
Sep 2012

With what we currently know, its just about as likely. The rational course is to let things settle out. Nothing to be gained by jumping on incomplete data early.

We do know at least one of the protests was preplanned...

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
15. yeah, I'll add them to the mix
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sep 2012

The point is his parole, his federal debt fine and his money problems. A conspiracy is when more than one is involved and his tracks stink of a deal to be the front man for this and many were needed to put him there.

The timing of Israeli PM's visit and wanting to talk to Obama is, I guess was too convenient a coincidence? Maybe so, maybe not.

The Mossad is not our friend neither is the Moslem brotherhood. If you think they are then you are naive. Both are pissed at the US administration for different reasons.
I don't trust the government of Israeli right now

The Coptic Christian angle is strange if you know their relationship in Egypt
this would be the last thing they want.

So yeah add the brotherhood to the usual suspects if you want to.






Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
11. The Great Islamophobic Crusade
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:06 AM
Sep 2012
Inside the Bizarre Cabal of Secretive Donors, Demagogic Bloggers, Pseudo-Scholars, European Neo-Fascists, Violent Israeli Settlers, and Republican Presidential Hopefuls Behind the Crusade
By Max Blumenthal

Nine years after 9/11, hysteria about Muslims in American life has gripped the country. With it has gone an outburst of arson attacks on mosques, campaigns to stop their construction, and the branding of the Muslim-American community, overwhelmingly moderate, as a hotbed of potential terrorist recruits. The frenzy has raged from rural Tennessee to New York City, while in Oklahoma, voters even overwhelmingly approved a ballot measure banning the implementation of Sharia law in American courts (not that such a prospect existed). This campaign of Islamophobia wounded President Obama politically, as one out of five Americans have bought into a sustained chorus of false rumors about his secret Muslim faith. And it may have tainted views of Muslims in general; an August 2010 Pew Research Center poll revealed that, among Americans, the favorability rating of Muslims had dropped by 11 points since 2005.

Erupting so many years after the September 11th trauma, this spasm of anti-Muslim bigotry might seem oddly timed and unexpectedly spontaneous. But think again: it’s the fruit of an organized, long-term campaign by a tight confederation of right-wing activists and operatives who first focused on Islamophobia soon after the September 11th attacks, but only attained critical mass during the Obama era. It was then that embittered conservative forces, voted out of power in 2008, sought with remarkable success to leverage cultural resentment into political and partisan gain.

This network is obsessively fixated on the supposed spread of Muslim influence in America. Its apparatus spans continents, extending from Tea Party activists here to the European far right. It brings together in common cause right-wing ultra-Zionists, Christian evangelicals, and racist British soccer hooligans. It reflects an aggressively pro-Israel sensibility, with its key figures venerating the Jewish state as a Middle Eastern Fort Apache on the front lines of the Global War on Terror and urging the U.S. and various European powers to emulate its heavy-handed methods.

....

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175334/tomgram:_max_blumenthal,_the_great_fear_


Two possibilities jump out at you:

1.) Nakoula/Bacile knew of the network of money and created the movie as a scam

2.) Nakoula/Bacile was approached by said network and paid to be the fall guy
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