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Wed Apr 29, 2020, 02:50 PM

Now we're talking! "Operation Warp Speed"

Project targets enough doses for most Americans by January
Fauci has said vaccine will take 12 to 18 months to develop

The Trump administration is organizing a Manhattan Project-style effort to drastically cut the time needed to develop a coronavirus vaccine, with a goal of making enough doses for most Americans by year’s end.

Called “Operation Warp Speed,” the program will pull together private pharmaceutical companies, government agencies and the military to try to cut the development time for a vaccine by as much as eight months, according to two people familiar with the matter.

As part of the arrangement, taxpayers will shoulder much of the financial risk that vaccine candidates may fail, instead of drug companies.

The project will cost billions of dollars, one of the people said. And it will almost certainly result in significant waste by making inoculations at scale before knowing if they’ll be safe and effective -- meaning that vaccines that fail will be useless. But it could mean having doses of vaccine available for the American public by the end of this year, instead of by next summer.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-29/trump-s-operation-warp-speed-aims-to-rush-coronavirus-vaccine

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Reply Now we're talking! "Operation Warp Speed" (Original post)
underpants Apr 2020 OP
Squinch Apr 2020 #1
agingdem Apr 2020 #4
Squinch Apr 2020 #6
agingdem Apr 2020 #10
mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #2
underpants Apr 2020 #25
mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #31
dweller Apr 2020 #3
SharonAnn Apr 2020 #11
HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #28
GopherGal Apr 2020 #29
empedocles Apr 2020 #5
Tanuki Apr 2020 #32
guillaumeb Apr 2020 #7
ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #20
underpants Apr 2020 #27
guillaumeb Apr 2020 #30
Squinch Apr 2020 #8
SoonerPride Apr 2020 #9
Elwood P Dowd Apr 2020 #12
qazplm135 Apr 2020 #13
gratuitous Apr 2020 #14
qazplm135 Apr 2020 #17
csziggy Apr 2020 #19
DrToast Apr 2020 #21
qazplm135 Apr 2020 #22
csziggy Apr 2020 #24
underpants Apr 2020 #26
pwb Apr 2020 #15
Caliman73 Apr 2020 #16
DrToast Apr 2020 #18
tanyev Apr 2020 #23

Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 02:56 PM

1. This vaccine, produced by the administration of Donnie Bodybags, will either be ineffective

or cause serious and lasting health issues.

I won't be in the first wave to take it.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:02 PM

4. 12 to 18 months...

not tomorrow or next week or next month..a year to a year and a half away and there's no guarantee the virus will not mutate...this is about suppressing the symptoms once you get it...like tamiflu...it will not eradicate it...that science takes years

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Response to agingdem (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:05 PM

6. The purpose of a vaccine is not to suppress symptoms. There are treatments being

studied for their ability to suppress symptoms. A vaccine is to eradicate the disease.

That DOES take years. That's why I am certain that this administration will screw it up and kill people in the process.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:11 PM

10. if it's an anti viral which I think it is

it will tamp down symptoms much like HIV anti viral meds...and you're right...they will screw it up big time...they will deny those they deem unworthy the so-called vaccine..and in the process harm/kill the first wave of guinea pigs

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:01 PM

2. And THAT'S why we have a Space Force. NT

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:09 PM

25. Pew pew

Space Force can get the vaccine from one part of the earth to a whole other part of the earth by going AROUND....in space!!

Huh? Pretty impressive amiright?

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Response to underpants (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 30, 2020, 04:41 AM

31. Life imitates art: "The Man in the High Castle." NT

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:01 PM

3. wtf does this mean

As part of the arrangement, taxpayers will shoulder much of the financial risk that vaccine candidates may fail, instead of drug companies.



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Response to dweller (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:16 PM

11. We're asking companies to build a product that there is no verified business case for yet.

They won't take the risk of a huge expense if there's no verified business case for it.

I wouldn't either. If you want my company to do something like that, pay me to do it. Otherwise, I'll invest where there is a verified business case for it.

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Response to dweller (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:19 PM

28. Companies who make vaccines have long been indemnified by the govt.

 

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Response to dweller (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 07:32 PM

29. As I read it, the commercial-scale manufacturing may begin before efficacy is known.

Basically, I think the full-scale manufacturing is to be done in parallel with the testing. If the result of the trials is that it's good, there will be doses available for the public right away. If it's not efficacious, the material already manufactured will be trash and the money spent manufacturing it wasted.

Literally buying time, paying for the manufacture of commercial scale quantities of the candidate vaccine "at risk" before completion of the efficacy trial.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:03 PM

5. 'Warp Speed'??? Trump promises, goals, claims, effectiveness don't make any speed,

or any forward progress!!!

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Response to empedocles (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 30, 2020, 04:46 AM

32. He's a warped speed freak.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:06 PM

7. Is bleach an ingredient in this vaccine?

And will Trump enterprises have the exclusive patent?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:15 PM

20. Only In The Failed Vaccines

The 50% death rate will be our first tip.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:13 PM

27. Yeah but you can't tell it.

Cloaking device. Huh? Pretty impressive AmIright?

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Response to underpants (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 07:44 PM

30. Words cannot express how impressed I am.

And I have the best words.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:06 PM

8. Another of Donnie Bodybags's investment companies is about to get real rich, I warrant.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:09 PM

9. Privatize the profits but socialize the risks?

Sounds like another bailout of Big Pharma to me.

No sale.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:25 PM

12. Just another scam for Trump & his brat children to steal a bunch of these......

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:55 PM

13. this will only work

if we also raise shields to maximum!

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:59 PM

14. It's clearly a gimmick, a cynical ploy

If the administration was serious, this would be Operation Ludicrous Speed!

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:05 PM

17. well we have to go to plaid

I think that's self-evident.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:12 PM

19. But is that effective if they've gone to plaid?

Ludicrous speed won't be enough.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:16 PM

21. Dr. Fauci says...

"I knew it. I'm surrounded by a-holes."

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Response to csziggy (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:22 PM

22. the nerd in me is offended

that we keep referencing a Star Trek term with a Star Wars parody.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:56 PM

24. OK, so we will use this scene to demonstrate how the vaccine will work on coronavirus

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:12 PM

26. Yes! Maximum!

Good thinking. They’ll get Space Force right on that.

you got a laugh outta me.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:00 PM

15. Republicans really cut red tape ha?

so efficient at everything? Not.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:01 PM

16. I don't mind these proposals. HOWEVER...

We need to develop a vaccine and effective treatment. I don't mind clearing obstacles or high costs, even if taxpayers are involved. The problem I have with the proposals are that Trump and his administration do not have a plan and their goal is rarely the benefit of the American people. If we do this "warp speed" thing, there have to be CLEAR rules that the product is for the benefit of the people and the property of the people. There should not be any profit for private companies and the vaccine should be "paid for" meaning that the tax dollars we invested should make the vaccine completely free to all of us.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:07 PM

18. I believe the CARES act already provided funding for vaccines

It will be free for Americans.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:45 PM

23. I'm confident it will be executed just as competently and responsibly

as everything else they’ve done.

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