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TexasTowelie

(112,121 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 06:49 AM Apr 2020

Experts warn that widely used surgical masks are putting health care workers at serious risk

With medical supplies in high demand, federal authorities say health workers can wear surgical masks for protection while treating COVID-19 patients — but growing evidence suggests the practice is putting workers in jeopardy.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently said lower-grade surgical masks are “an acceptable alternative” to N95 masks unless workers are performing an intubation or another procedure on a COVID patient that could unleash a high volume of virus particles.

America’s health care workers are dying from the coronavirus pandemic. These are some of the first tragic cases.

But scholars, nonprofit leaders and former regulators in the specialized field of occupational safety say relying on surgical masks — which are considerably less protective than N95 respirators — is almost certainly fueling illness among front-line health workers, who likely make up about 11% of all known COVID-19 cases.

Read more: https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2020/04/29/experts-warn-that-widely-used-surgical-masks-are-putting-health-care-workers-at-serious-risk/

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Experts warn that widely used surgical masks are putting health care workers at serious risk (Original Post) TexasTowelie Apr 2020 OP
Using surgical mask is better than not using any mask. LisaL Apr 2020 #1
+++ still_one Apr 2020 #2
I don't think it's misleading. lark Apr 2020 #3
The headlines implies masks make it more risky. LisaL Apr 2020 #4
We 100% agree on the conclusion. lark Apr 2020 #5
Absolutely SheltieLover Apr 2020 #8
Surgical Mask ( L): N95 Mask/Respirator (R) appalachiablue Apr 2020 #6
Perhaps headline should say SheltieLover Apr 2020 #7
+1 dalton99a Apr 2020 #10
It is really disturbing that dump stealing supirs is not being discussed SheltieLover Apr 2020 #11
+1000000 crickets Apr 2020 #18
Things to remember McCamy Taylor Apr 2020 #9
+1000 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #12
Ok, so just heard doctor say they now believe the virus is Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2020 #13
What? What are u talking about? New studies show blood clotting complications, not how its spread Baclava Apr 2020 #14
Exactly what I just said. The doctor said that virus causes disease of the blood. Blood Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2020 #15
What doctor? Link? Baclava Apr 2020 #16
Around 3:50 ish. NJ surgeon. Was only half listening Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2020 #17

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
1. Using surgical mask is better than not using any mask.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:00 AM
Apr 2020

So I would say headline is misleading.
Masks are not putting heath care workers at risk. Rather these masks are not providing adequate protection, because they can't block small viral particles.

lark

(23,091 posts)
3. I don't think it's misleading.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:36 AM
Apr 2020

Giving health care workers ineffective masks for the job is not acceptable, they are risking the nurses lives rather than doing the expensive job of getting the needed masks. The administrators are putting the frontline people's lives at risk.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
4. The headlines implies masks make it more risky.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:45 AM
Apr 2020

They don't. They are better than no masks. But they are not adequate against airborne pathogens, which has been known for a long time. CDC should have never declared surgical masks to be acceptable in caring for covid patients.

lark

(23,091 posts)
5. We 100% agree on the conclusion.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 07:59 AM
Apr 2020

Nurses need to be wearing the superior N95 masks to protect their lives.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
8. Absolutely
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:40 AM
Apr 2020

And this should serve as a precaution to anyone who feels "safe" or "safer" wearing cloth masks as the teeny particles are not filtered through cloth. Perhaps better than nothing, but they can also cause a false sense of security, in my opinion.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
7. Perhaps headline should say
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:37 AM
Apr 2020

Dump's theft of N-95s is killing med staff.

Or

Repub profiteering / pirating og N-95s is killing med workers. 🤬

Ridiculous! 🤬

Thanks for posting. K&R

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. It is really disturbing that dump stealing supirs is not being discussed
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:55 AM
Apr 2020

Thos should be investigated & the 1st story at every news site / program!

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
9. Things to remember
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:42 AM
Apr 2020

1) People with COVID may not look sick but are still contagious

2) Saying certain consonants spews out as much saliva ( and virus) as a cough so someone does not have to cough in your face to be contagious

3) The virus can enter your eyes

4) The virus can lie dormant outisde a host for days to weeks

Add 1 plus 2 plus 3 plus 4 and you will see that the only protection that really protects is a N95 mask that does not allow you to breathe in little bits of air through the open sides of the masks plus a full face shield that protects the eyes AND face. You could use goggles but you would have to wash your face after each patient encounter because virus particles could land on your forehead and sweat into your eyes later (since the virus can lie dormant for days to weeks).

Also, every surface that the person accidentally spewed saliva on (meaning anything within 6 to 10 feet of that person) needs to be wiped down with disinfectant. Otherwise. it is also a potential infection source.

Face mask will cut the viral load to which you are exposed. And some people think that getting infected with a smaller viral load means a milder infection. However since we do not know how COVID kills, the face mask may not cut your risk of death.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. Ok, so just heard doctor say they now believe the virus is
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 09:28 AM
Apr 2020

a disease of the blood and not a respiratory disease. Does that play into the whole mask approach? Or is that still how the virus enters (inhale) and then gets in blood stream to be infect with the disease? Sure I didn't phrase that correctly, sorry.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. Exactly what I just said. The doctor said that virus causes disease of the blood. Blood
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:47 AM
Apr 2020

system root cause/source of other complications. Not the respiratory system.

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