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Fri May 1, 2020, 02:48 PM

Aw good Jebus. It's not a crime for law enforcement to say they're trying to get someone to lie!

What is the miscarriage of justice? Lawyers try to trap people in lies every time they question a witness. It's not their fault if a person is stupid enough to lie.


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Reply Aw good Jebus. It's not a crime for law enforcement to say they're trying to get someone to lie! (Original post)
Solomon May 2020 OP
Newest Reality May 2020 #1
leftieNanner May 2020 #2
Celerity May 2020 #3
Solomon May 2020 #4
OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #5
Captain Zero May 2020 #6
Hoyt May 2020 #7
Solomon May 2020 #8
gibraltar72 May 2020 #9
Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #10
gratuitous May 2020 #11
The Magistrate May 2020 #12
dawg day May 2020 #13

Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 02:49 PM

1. Yup.

Working undercover is a form of deception and there is often the use of entrapment, as well.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 02:51 PM

2. Context please? nt

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Fri May 1, 2020, 02:54 PM

3. Flynn was being referenced by Kayleigh McEnany as being a victim of the 'evil' Feds

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Fri May 1, 2020, 02:54 PM

4. They are trying to exonerate Flynn by claiming

somebody in the FBI wrote an email or something saying they were going to try to get him to lie.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 02:55 PM

5. I really don't want the Head of National Security to be lying to our own government when questions .

are asked.

That is a National Security risk. I expect a higher standard of conduct and if he is trapped in a lie - and he did plead guilty to it - then so be it.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 03:09 PM

6. That's why people should shut up and get a lawyer

Sorry. Police are allowed to lie especially about what other people have told them when they are talking to you.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 03:11 PM

7. I'm fine with reopening the investigation of the charges that led to plea bargain.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Fri May 1, 2020, 03:22 PM

8. Aw hell no. Why would you do that with Barr conducting the show?

It'll be charged dismissed!

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 03:34 PM

9. Glenn Kirshner has a great You tube video on this.

Glenn has a plan. let's execute it in the new government.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 03:40 PM

10. Right

You can only perjure yourself if you, you know, lie. I have a feeling that what this is, is Barr/Trump pulling out some internal document that outlines something typical and/or routine for law enforcement personnel and presenting it as a sign of something more nefarious (presented entirely outside of context), which the average person not connected to law enforcement wouldn't be able to recognize as typical and/or routine or harmless.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 03:40 PM

11. I saw the plea agreement Flynn signed

It was posted on Daily Kos. Some boilerplate nonsense about being guilty and understanding that by signing, Flynn was admitting to doing the crime and preparing to do the time. But the signature! Anyone could tell at a glance that Flynn signed the plea agreement sarcastically!

Not to mention that Trump has forgotten all about how "outraged" he was that Flynn lied to Pence. Any good businessman knows you don't stay mad at someone forever. How else are you going to sucker them in later when you can really give 'em the shaft?

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 03:42 PM

12. Hear Hear, Sir

That is pretty much the essence of the trade....


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."


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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri May 1, 2020, 04:58 PM

13. Mike Flynn lied. He pled guilty.

He had to swear that he really was guilty.

No one beat him up and made him lie. He chose to do that, then-- Trump and Pence want everyone to forget -- then he lied to Pence, which is why he was fired, supposedly.

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