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Sat May 2, 2020, 12:39 PM

Looks like msnbc is correcting their coverage.

now they are explicitly discussing all the holes in reades story instead of going accusatory on Biden

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Reply Looks like msnbc is correcting their coverage. (Original post)
drray23 May 2020 OP
CTyankee May 2020 #1
Wellstone ruled May 2020 #9
renate May 2020 #19
Wellstone ruled May 2020 #22
DownriverDem May 2020 #83
42bambi May 2020 #2
asiliveandbreathe May 2020 #3
PatSeg May 2020 #11
asiliveandbreathe May 2020 #13
PatSeg May 2020 #34
Bev54 May 2020 #20
PatSeg May 2020 #35
True Blue American May 2020 #25
PatSeg May 2020 #37
Totally Tunsie May 2020 #43
PatSeg May 2020 #45
Totally Tunsie May 2020 #49
PatSeg May 2020 #50
Totally Tunsie May 2020 #58
PatSeg May 2020 #60
Fla Dem May 2020 #76
PatSeg May 2020 #80
LisaM May 2020 #81
PatSeg May 2020 #82
Cha May 2020 #48
tblue37 May 2020 #56
True Blue American May 2020 #61
tblue37 May 2020 #63
True Blue American May 2020 #67
kstewart33 May 2020 #31
PatSeg May 2020 #39
SharonAnn May 2020 #42
PatSeg May 2020 #44
CTyankee May 2020 #46
True Blue American May 2020 #62
CTyankee May 2020 #72
True Blue American May 2020 #73
yortsed snacilbuper May 2020 #12
asiliveandbreathe May 2020 #14
SharonClark May 2020 #4
dalton99a May 2020 #7
lunatica May 2020 #8
nolabear May 2020 #10
wryter2000 May 2020 #16
nolabear May 2020 #28
wryter2000 May 2020 #41
malaise May 2020 #23
lunatica May 2020 #26
The Wizard May 2020 #30
SharonClark May 2020 #33
True Blue American May 2020 #27
Rebl2 May 2020 #32
True Blue American May 2020 #68
Grokenstein May 2020 #5
dalton99a May 2020 #6
gratuitous May 2020 #15
dalton99a May 2020 #17
tblue37 May 2020 #57
not fooled May 2020 #18
malaise May 2020 #24
Cosmocat May 2020 #71
Gothmog May 2020 #21
SharonClark May 2020 #38
Gothmog May 2020 #87
ucrdem May 2020 #29
musclecar6 May 2020 #36
tblue37 May 2020 #59
japple May 2020 #40
mercuryblues May 2020 #55
Cha May 2020 #47
Peacetrain May 2020 #51
Cha May 2020 #52
Peacetrain May 2020 #53
Cha May 2020 #54
blitzen May 2020 #64
Cha May 2020 #65
blitzen May 2020 #66
True Blue American May 2020 #70
True Blue American May 2020 #69
Gothmog May 2020 #74
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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 12:41 PM

1. Betcha they got lots of angry emails. Every liberal I know is pissed off at the media!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:55 PM

9. As a local so called News Reader

 

said when asked about so called flubs and downright miss leading stories,the fellow said,we read our Instagram and Twits during Commercial Breaks,and our Producers have to have the Script Writers do a copy rewrite that will be in the Next News program especially when you have more than one show during the evening time slot.

Word of that Conversation to our small group got back to his Station and he was gone within a couple days. But,hey,he did hook up with a Sinclair own local station.





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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #9)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:33 PM

19. that's good to know!

Sorry that guy had to go to Sinclair.

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Response to renate (Reply #19)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:45 PM

22. He does weekends

 

and fill ins. Thirty plus year career and was rated one of the most liked by viewers.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 12:50 PM

2. The media loves any new shiny story, false or not, at our expense. nt

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:21 PM

3. Been trying to find the segment from last night 11th Hour where

Brian Williams and a familiar woman journalist (can't remember her name) talking about tone, tone of all things, as they juxtaposed Bidens denial with the pos denial..I want to say her name is Susan Parker..but can't find..

So, when you say looks like MSNBC is correcting coverage..that is a good thing..but if they are not making last nights full 11th hour segment available..I'll keep searching..

Thanks for this drray 23..

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Response to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #3)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:57 PM

11. Susan Page

Yes, I saw that too and was so glad to finally hear a sane voice in all this. Lately, I've preferred Brian Williams The 11th Hour over MSNBC's other programs. Page was on with Donna Edwards too and they both were much more reasonable than what I was hearing on the other shows.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #11)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:03 PM

13. Yes, thank you..did you ever try to remember someone..you can see them, you get

close...right church, wrong pew...THANK YOU...

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Response to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #13)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:14 PM

34. Oh yes, all the time!

Then often the name will pop in my head hours later!

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #11)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:35 PM

20. Joy Reid this morning

with 4 or 5 women guests did a full segment on this and it was very well done.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #20)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:15 PM

35. Thank goodness

I didn't turn the TV on today, as it was getting too stressed out!

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #11)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:55 PM

25. Chris Hays

Had the woman. Calls were being made everywhere to fire him..

Scarborough and MIka had Biden on. MIka tried to act like a serious reporter, asking the same question over and over. Finally Biden had enough, asked her what she was trying to prove when he had explained several times that Personnel records would not be in his University records.

Considering the track record of MIka and Joe they are on shaky ground.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #25)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:18 PM

37. I agree

It was painful to watch that interview. After all these years, Mika should be able to do a decent interview. That was so unprofessional, very disappointing.

Everyone is so upset that Mika and Joe didn't ask Donald Trump tough questions in 2016, but Mika is quick to go after a man of great integrity.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #37)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:59 PM

43. Mika is a waste of broadcast air (IMO).

I gave up watching them long ago, back in the time when she and Joe were being so coy with each other. They were nauseating then, and from sparse moments I've seen, they're worse now.

She and "Debbie" can get together and share scarves.

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Response to Totally Tunsie (Reply #43)

Sat May 2, 2020, 04:41 PM

45. I hadn't watched the show in years

I just started watching it again the last couple of weeks because of the pandemic. Joe isn't as bad as he used to be, but he still goes off on these long, tedious monologues and everyone else fights the urge to roll their eyes. Mika still comes across as very insecure and nervous, which can be exhausting. Her interview of Biden seemed to be personal for some reason. My daughter says Mika's behavior reminded her of a sexual assault survivor. If so, perhaps that is why she seemed to get so emotional.

I'm amazed the show has lasted as long as it has.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #45)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:05 PM

49. Even the Biden interview couldn't get me interested enough to turn on MJ.

From the sound of it, didn't miss much, and I don't think I'll bother looking for it online.

Mika is very weak on air, and Joe is, as you say, tedious and quite pompous in addition. I find them insufferable and agree with your amazement. Do they have compromising photos of their boss or something?

Speaking of photos, those cutsie photos of Joe and Mika leading into commercial breaks were the straw that broke the camel's back for me. They were pre-marriage, and always reminded me of scenes from the movie "2 1/2 Weeks". There was one in particular of them standing in a dark, dank outside stairwell, soaked from the rain, with Mika with her back against the wall and Joe hovering over her. It was so damn unprofessional and out of place.

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Response to Totally Tunsie (Reply #49)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:21 PM

50. In the early years,

Joe was more of a bully on the show. He was rude and domineering, often snapping at people for no apparent reason. Its hard to believe the kind of stuff he got away with on air. Since he got married (again), he seems a lot more mild mannered or maybe it is because Trump got elected. His late father-in-law publicly called him "stunningly superficial". I think it was on his own show.

I'd forgotten about those cutsie photos. Yeah very unprofessional.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #50)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:43 PM

58. "His late father-in-law publicly called him 'stunningly superficial'. "

I remember ZB making that comment. It was a thing of beauty.

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Response to Totally Tunsie (Reply #58)

Sat May 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

60. Truly a memorable moment

One of the few people who called him out to his face.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #37)

Sun May 3, 2020, 10:08 AM

76. Mika and Joe were too busy in 2016 trashing Hillary and kissing up to Trump.

Then when they turned on Trump, it became "the lesser of 2 evils".
Read some of the tweets to Mika after the interview.


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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #76)

Sun May 3, 2020, 11:32 AM

80. Whoa

That sure sounds like a lot of double talk to me. She took a lot of flack for her interview and now she seems to be walking it back or not, depending on the public reaction she gets. Jeez lady, pick a lane.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #80)

Sun May 3, 2020, 11:47 AM

81. Yikes.

In either scenario, she says Democrats are wrong.

Maybe one woman was right and one is wrong. For one thing, Ford didn't want to come and testify.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #81)

Sun May 3, 2020, 11:54 AM

82. So bizarre

Women should be believed or not. Democrats were right or they weren't. I am a totally superficial flake or not.

I think Mika has some really serious issues.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #25)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:04 PM

48. Tweet from Joe Scar...

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #25)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:37 PM

56. The woman Hayes had on is Rebecca Traister. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #56)

Sun May 3, 2020, 01:17 AM

61. I did not see the show, only heard

The reaction. Thanks for that info.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #61)

Sun May 3, 2020, 02:42 AM

63. I don't watch, but I read about the shows online. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #63)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:09 AM

67. Still, you had

The facts. I am having trouble keeping up with the constant barrage.

But I see Reade has now changed her story after Biden appeared with MIka.

And Lindsey said Joe did not do that!

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #11)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:10 PM

31. Susan Page is a true professional.

Always calm, knowledgable, and confident. Been a fan of hers for years.

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #31)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:19 PM

39. Yes, I really like her

She is writing an autobiography of Nancy Pelosi. I can't wait.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #39)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:56 PM

42. Can't be "auto"biography unless she's actually Nancy Pelosi. Maybe "biography"?

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #42)

Sat May 2, 2020, 04:34 PM

44. Oops!

Yes, a biography. Its been a long week.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #39)

Sat May 2, 2020, 04:46 PM

46. What do you bet someone will want to make a film of it?

And Meryl Streep agrees to play her. And, as usual, studies her and her physical mannerisms (those pursed lips not saying what she really feels) and does to her what she did to Margaret Thatcher and probably wins yet another Oscar. I would look forward to that!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #46)

Sun May 3, 2020, 01:25 AM

62. Of course!

Who could resist,” Madame Speaker!” That picture of Nancy dressing down Trump while Generals looked shame faced would be all over.

Now Trump will not speak to Nancy, McConnell is side lined with his Grim Reaper brag.

Mnuchin and Pelosi are getting bills passed. Mitch has been defanged. Trump will sign anything to try and make himself look good, posing with Republicans, cutting Democrats out. But thinking people know.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #62)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:50 AM

72. Yes! Hollywood could not come up with a better plot line! This is just too good not to make a

film out of it!

Of course, SNL is already doing it in real time.!!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #72)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:51 AM

73. :)

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Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Reply #12)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:05 PM

14. Thank you so much...my faith is restored...

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:47 PM

4. I want to see Mika B apologize on Morning Joe.

She was dreadful in her Biden interview on Friday.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #4)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:52 PM

7. +1.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #4)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:54 PM

8. Yeah, but he was really good in his responses and demeanor

So today he looks good and she looks bad. I call that a win win.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #8)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:56 PM

10. Yes, I think it helped him overall.

Nobody can say she softballed anything and he handled it with confidence, Grace and just the right combination of anger and refusal to sink to her level.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #10)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:20 PM

16. I didn't see the whole interview

What I did see was Mika asking "the hard questions" in order to let him answer them. And he did. As someone said up thread, it was a win for him that he might not have gotten without her looking as if she was really tearing into him.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #16)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:00 PM

28. I thought she seemed very tense but that could have been for lots of reasons.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #28)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:50 PM

41. Absolutely

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Response to lunatica (Reply #8)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:47 PM

23. And their program remains

Morning Joe Scum - ignore distractions - that is all.

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Response to malaise (Reply #23)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:57 PM

26. It's a real bummer for them

when they hurt themselves when going after Democrats. Kinda like when President Obama fried Trump’s ass to a sizzling crisp in that Correspondents dinner.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #8)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:07 PM

30. Trial lawyers do this with clients to prepare them for trial. (NT)

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Response to lunatica (Reply #8)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:14 PM

33. I agree his responses to Mika's badgering were very good.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #4)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:00 PM

27. Agree100%!

My phone was ringing off the hook when the MIka segment ended from angry women.

Biden on Al Sharpton today at 5.

MSNBC is trying to undo the damage of that snotty nosed Chris Hays caused I quit watching him a long time ago.

Calls for his firing were loud and clear.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #4)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:13 PM

32. Absolutely

She was horrible. She came across as rude as well. She just kept asking the same thing over and over, like she was trying to trip him up. She also couldn’t understand the difference between records in his senate days and records from the college he taught at. The ones from the college were position papers. I’m sure she got a lot of angry tweets and emails after that.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #4)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:10 AM

68. MIka is no

Ronan Farrow who turned down Reade.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:50 PM

5. Almost tempted to pop over to theNib and see

...how the hot takes on the subject from Bors and Lubachansky and all the other up-their-own-ass table-flipping pseudoprogressives have aged. I used to love Bors and theNib, but dropped both when I realized the only people they loathe more than Donald J. Trump are Democrats. They want the farce to go on, it feeds them oxygen. If a grown-up gets in there and restores sanity, they'll just have to work that much harder to pretend only the ultra-rads can save the world.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:52 PM

6. Stupid, lazy media falls for it every damn time.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:09 PM

15. I wonder, though

Will this slapstick attempt at a smear immunize Biden from further spurious allegations? Now that they've been bitten in their collective bottom, will the media be just a little more circumspect about the next nontroversy that blarps up from the wingnuttosphere?

Yeah, probably not.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #15)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:20 PM

17. I doubt it. Wild claims and lurid tales are great for ratings



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Response to dalton99a (Reply #17)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:43 PM

57. Unless they're about a Republican, because IOKIYAR. nt

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #15)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:26 PM

18. Let us hope

because we know red don's backers (russkies, mercers, all the scum) are lining up more faux controversies to convince low-information voters that psychopathic criminal red don is no worse than Biden.




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Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:48 PM

24. I told you to ignore the distractions

There will be more - Don the criminally negligent Con is history - vote, vote, vote!

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:22 AM

71. Yep

Mika with her ALL SO SERIOUS grilling of Joe.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 02:39 PM

21. Joy Reid was okay on this story

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #21)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:19 PM

38. Yikes! Gray lays out her strategy for all to see.

Win to Reid and Biden.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #38)

Tue May 5, 2020, 05:31 PM

87. There is more

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:02 PM

29. LOL, welcome to the Teflon candidate.

That swiftboat didn't get far up the river did it.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:15 PM

36. Yeah



Although I'm a major woman's advocate, I am NOT for women using #me too to fuck some guy over the coals. It's possible Joe could have been up to no good, but not probable with his long track record of working for women's rights, equality etc and it's looking like maybe Tara Reade may have more than a few screws loose or some nefarious purpose in mind.

Now if she were saying this about the Orange Jerkoff, that would certainly be believable ESPECIALLY after his well known " Grab em by the Pussy" video.

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Response to musclecar6 (Reply #36)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:45 PM

59. Also, false allegations end up being used to discredit #Me Too in general. nt

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:50 PM

40. Thing to remember about Joe Biden is that he was completely investigated and vetted

by the Obama campaign many years before the Tara Reade "story" broke. I can't believe any of the so-called journalists don't even consider that in their race to be first with the big story.

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Response to japple (Reply #40)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:35 PM

55. Exactly

we are also supposed to believe that Republikkklans didn't investigate Joe Biden when he went on Obama's ticket. Either that or they found something and decided not to use it; out of their deep respect for the Democratic party. <- sarcasm

Doesn't the Senate has the authority to search and release those records. You would think McTurtle face would be combing the files himself. Especially after Biden said to.

Is it any wonder that after Biden asking for those records to be searched that Tare/Alexandria/Reid/Moulton or whatever name she is going by these days, changed her story? Yet again.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:00 PM

47. Wow.. good news! Joe Scar: Big developments since @Morning_Joe interview yesterday:

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Response to Cha (Reply #47)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:27 PM

51. Now I will tune into the show on Monday to see how they handle this

This thing is falling apart like a wet cardboard box Cha

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #51)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:29 PM

52. So glad.. I want it compeletely scrapped, Peacetrain.

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Response to Cha (Reply #52)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:32 PM

53. It is changing by the day.. sometimes hour..

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #53)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:34 PM

54. I know.. I wonder why she canceled her big fox interview?

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Response to Cha (Reply #54)

Sun May 3, 2020, 02:45 AM

64. Putin told her that her work was done? Just get it out there and let the braindead media repeat it.

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Response to blitzen (Reply #64)

Sun May 3, 2020, 03:06 AM

65. I've read since then that this is Reade's excuse which I don't believe..

Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who alleged that former Vice President Joe Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993 while she was working on his staff, said Saturday that she isn't ready yet to respond to Biden's denial of the allegations.

“I’m digesting and processing everything he said,” she told The Wall Street Journal. “I will respond.”

Reade said that she had planned on doing a sit-down interview with Fox News on Sunday, but canceled it due to threats she received aimed at her and her adult daughter.

In 2019, Reade was one of several women who came forward and said that Biden’s alleged public touching made them uncomfortable. In late March, Reade alleged publicly that in 1993, the former vice president sexually assaulted her in a corridor on Capitol Hill.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495836-tara-reade-says-she-is-not-ready-to-respond-to-biden-denial

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13382988

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Response to Cha (Reply #65)

Sun May 3, 2020, 04:03 AM

66. Jeez, she's a pretty bad liar and a messed up person. n/t

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Response to Cha (Reply #65)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:16 AM

70. The Hill

Used to be reliable, now it is owned by a Republican billionaire.

Notice the slant of that article.

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Response to Cha (Reply #54)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:14 AM

69. Chris Wallace is not your typical Fox sycophant.

Like his Father, Mike he digs out facts!

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sun May 3, 2020, 08:09 AM

74. Good-there are some very upset viewers

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #74)

Mon May 4, 2020, 05:59 PM

85. Was the head of NBC news fired due to Chris Hayes?

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sun May 3, 2020, 08:13 AM

75. They make money as it flies up the flagpole, and then as it comes back down

The only side they take is the money side.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Sun May 3, 2020, 10:10 AM

77. Ratings drops will correct coverage.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 10:21 AM

78. What Hays needs

He needs a dose of former staffer Donna B. Leavit and his sister Purple Hays "coming forward" to tell of perceived offenses Chris Hays committed at someone's 7th birthday party 25 years ago, and telling the graphic details on Joy Reid's show.

Maybe then he'll gain some journalistic perspective? My dad was once president of the Washington, DC Gridiron Club, the one that does the big bash and show for the President every March. He would have been sick at the depths that parts of his profession has descended to.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 11:00 AM

79. Good step in the right direction.

I've been boycotting them since the Fri. Morning Schmoe attack bunny Biden attack from Mika and the ongoing travesty of the coverage for Biden vs. ignoring what drumpf did in the same timeframe. So, I will try Nicole & Rachel to see if they are on Biden about this while ignoring the far worse and habitual actions of the person in the WH. First words of BS about Reade and that station will be off again which means I will not be watching any news on tv.

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Mon May 4, 2020, 01:01 PM

84. Thank you @JoyAnnReid for being brave enough to say what is really going on

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Mon May 4, 2020, 07:18 PM

86. Mika went through a recap of all the ins and outs of this Tara Reade/Joe Biden matter.

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