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Sun May 3, 2020, 04:42 PM

drray23 (6,930 posts)

I hope somebody in Biden's team is keeping a list

of all the crap that Trump did that they will need to undo. Its going to be a long list.

Not only do they need to do that, they also absolutely should identify any and every person, political appointee or federal employees who
went along with anything that was lawless.

These people need to be prosecuted if we want to avoid ever again ending up in a situation like that.
Some of the unfettered presidential powers also need to be reined in. Congress needs to take back what it delegated to the president such as the power to make decisions on trade treaties or tariffs.

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I hope somebody in Biden's team is keeping a list (Original post)	drray23	May 2020	OP
I'd thought that, too, especially for EPA, education, consumer protection...shoot! The list is	Karadeniz	May 2020	#1
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump issues	exboyfil	May 2020	#2
He can't pardon himself for state crimes can he?	doc03	May 2020	#3
Nope but you bet his lawyers	exboyfil	May 2020	#4
I don't know if the double jeopardy thing will work here	leftieNanner	May 2020	#9
No, but Pence can. Ford pardoned Nixon.	TreasonousBastard	May 2020	#5
Trump would have to resign first.	LiberalFighter	May 2020	#7
Yes, like Nixon did. And Nixon resigned at the urging of top Republicans back then.	TreasonousBastard	May 2020	#10
And Trump doesn't listen to anyone but the voices in his head.	LiberalFighter	May 2020	#15
And that was a bad move by ford. He was very disliked for that.	notdarkyet	May 2020	#8
Pence (no POTUS can, Trump included) can pardon for state crimes	Celerity	May 2020	#12
No	leftieNanner	May 2020	#6
K&R!	SheltieLover	May 2020	#11
A bunch of what Trump did was by executive order.	Jarqui	May 2020	#13
You would have to have broad support for impeachment	exboyfil	May 2020	#14

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Sun May 3, 2020, 04:46 PM

Karadeniz (18,290 posts)

1. I'd thought that, too, especially for EPA, education, consumer protection...shoot! The list is

Too long!

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Sun May 3, 2020, 04:47 PM

exboyfil (17,497 posts)

2. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump issues

blanket pardons for all his cultists. He might even issue himself one. Also he just might leave office a day early holding a signed pardon by Pence post dated.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 04:49 PM

doc03 (32,719 posts)

3. He can't pardon himself for state crimes can he?

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Sun May 3, 2020, 04:57 PM

exboyfil (17,497 posts)

4. Nope but you bet his lawyers

will spend a lot of time arguing double jeopardy. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't already working overtime to off shore any exposed assets and picking out a nice country without an extradition treaty. Look at the criminals from the US that have had great life's in other countries (Roman Polanski and Marc Rich to name two).

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:00 PM

leftieNanner (13,326 posts)

9. I don't know if the double jeopardy thing will work here

The state crimes are wholly separate from the federal ones, aren't they?

But I think you're right about the other stuff. Somebody in Trump's cabal has planned this out, even if he himself doesn't believe that he will lose in November

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Sun May 3, 2020, 04:57 PM

TreasonousBastard (41,872 posts)

5. No, but Pence can. Ford pardoned Nixon.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:00 PM

LiberalFighter (45,212 posts)

7. Trump would have to resign first.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:05 PM

TreasonousBastard (41,872 posts)

10. Yes, like Nixon did. And Nixon resigned at the urging of top Republicans back then.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:33 PM

LiberalFighter (45,212 posts)

15. And Trump doesn't listen to anyone but the voices in his head.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:00 PM

notdarkyet (2,185 posts)

8. And that was a bad move by ford. He was very disliked for that.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:08 PM

Celerity (34,233 posts)

12. Pence (no POTUS can, Trump included) can pardon for state crimes

only federal

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Sun May 3, 2020, 04:58 PM

leftieNanner (13,326 posts)

6. No

And isn't that just delicious?

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:06 PM

SheltieLover (54,070 posts)

11. K&R!

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:12 PM

Jarqui (8,920 posts)

13. A bunch of what Trump did was by executive order.

That should be fairly easy to reverse as it is documented.

They've been lousy at passing legislation. The tax cuts to the 1% need repeal.

They should have someone look at the judicial appointments to see if any can be removed for making false claims.

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Sun May 3, 2020, 05:21 PM

exboyfil (17,497 posts)

14. You would have to have broad support for impeachment

for the Federal judges and that is not happening unless the GOP totally collapses and is on the run. I think an unexpected death at the Supreme Court level is the only thing that might save the judiciary (I figure Thomas is coming off between November and January if Trump loses the election).

It is going to take a long time to pass this kidney stone, and the Democratic party has a stacked deck when it comes to the Senate. Better hope a few more states go Blue in the long term.

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