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Mon May 4, 2020, 08:58 PM

Does anyone else just not like Chris Hayes?

I mean, before and after last week's debacle, he always sounds so breathless and hyperbolic. Very little information, lots of inappropriate emotions. Just in my opinion, YMMV.

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Reply Does anyone else just not like Chris Hayes? (Original post)
relayerbob May 2020 OP
Under The Radar May 2020 #1
relayerbob May 2020 #7
trueblue2007 May 2020 #42
SharonAnn May 2020 #18
Trumpocalypse May 2020 #31
Demsrule86 May 2020 #48
drray23 May 2020 #2
relayerbob May 2020 #11
FreepFryer May 2020 #3
comradebillyboy May 2020 #4
tinrobot May 2020 #5
Demsrule86 May 2020 #49
cally May 2020 #6
Demsrule86 May 2020 #51
hlthe2b May 2020 #8
relayerbob May 2020 #10
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #9
drray23 May 2020 #13
uponit7771 May 2020 #32
unitedwethrive May 2020 #12
drray23 May 2020 #14
PatSeg May 2020 #15
judeling May 2020 #16
Greybnk48 May 2020 #17
Trumpocalypse May 2020 #33
Greybnk48 May 2020 #63
Trumpocalypse May 2020 #69
lkinwi May 2020 #19
Midnight Writer May 2020 #20
relayerbob May 2020 #22
Demsrule86 May 2020 #52
Sienna86 May 2020 #21
Raine May 2020 #23
milestogo May 2020 #58
Sneederbunk May 2020 #24
Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #25
kcr May 2020 #26
AJT May 2020 #27
relayerbob May 2020 #28
Mike Nelson May 2020 #29
badhair77 May 2020 #30
NurseJackie May 2020 #34
bigtree May 2020 #35
relayerbob May 2020 #37
bigtree May 2020 #43
Polybius May 2020 #36
LizBeth May 2020 #38
Sanity Claws May 2020 #39
Marie Marie May 2020 #40
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tavernier May 2020 #44
BlueLucy May 2020 #45
Demsrule86 May 2020 #46
blogslut May 2020 #47
bdamomma May 2020 #54
blogslut May 2020 #56
rickford66 May 2020 #50
kentuck May 2020 #53
Demsrule86 May 2020 #55
KT2000 May 2020 #57
WhiskeyWulf May 2020 #59
Gothmog May 2020 #60
pattyloutwo May 2020 #61
relayerbob May 2020 #62
Tarheel_Dem May 2020 #64
Gothmog May 2020 #65
radius777 May 2020 #66
nsd May 2020 #67
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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:02 PM

1. Not me, I think that his intelligence and honest approach to reporting is refreshing

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Response to Under The Radar (Reply #1)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:05 PM

7. His presentation destroys my perception of honesty

Sorry, it's just me, I have never had much tolerance for that type of approach. I prefer calm and clear

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #7)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:45 PM

42. i cAN'T STAND THE WAY HE TALKS. can't understand him..... talks Waaaaaaaaaaaaay too fast.

I think he sound childish.

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Response to Under The Radar (Reply #1)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:18 PM

18. I basically like him.

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Response to Under The Radar (Reply #1)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:33 PM

31. He didn't take an honest approach on the Biden story last week

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Response to Under The Radar (Reply #1)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:55 PM

48. His attacks on Biden were not honest nor was his in the tank for Sanders behavior during the primary

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:03 PM

2. Somebody once described him

As an aging Brooklin hipster. He is geekish and awkward beyond belief. For example he is unable to control interviews. If he has a republican on, they run over him every time while he sheepishly try to politely interrupt them...

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Response to drray23 (Reply #2)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:08 PM

11. LOL, I can see that

As I said elsewhere in this thread, I want to see him more calm, consistent and professional

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:03 PM

3. Tick tock. He fucked up big time and they are saving face until the day he is told to resign (Nt)

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:03 PM

4. I grew tired of hayes a long time ago. Aside from his

journalistic flaws he's pretty boring.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:04 PM

5. I tend to like his show. He's much better than some other MSNBC hosts.

If they let me pick one MSNBC host to fire, he wouldn't top the list.

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #5)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:56 PM

49. He has topped mine for a while now.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:04 PM

6. Always been my favorite

I donít know how or why he made this big of a mistake

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Response to cally (Reply #6)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:57 PM

51. He wants Sanders as the nominee...always did...unprofessional.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:05 PM

8. I just want him to reign in his OTT biases which too often color his judgement in really BAD ways

(as last week showed with his unquestioning hit piece on Biden). I think he is bright and hard-working and I am actually NOT among those wanting him removed. I do want him to feel the backlash and learn from it. But, if he can't get behind our eventual nominee and learn to put journalistic integrity to ALL stories, then I'm fine if he is sent packing.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #8)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:07 PM

10. I generally agree.

I don't want him gone. I want him to be (more) professional.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:06 PM

9. I thought his Friday night town halls were pretty good.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:09 PM

13. Agree. He is much better in the town hall format.nt.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:34 PM

32. +1

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:08 PM

12. I've never liked him either. I hate the way he lowers his voice to do his intros.

Seems just too involved in the production value and stories that will draw attention.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:12 PM

14. I don't really dislike him.

he is very sharp and often has insightful analysis. However he is not a good interviewer. He will let right wingers take control of it, too polite to interrupt them.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:13 PM

15. Actually I liked him

but I didn't watch his show all that much anymore. Ever since Trump got elected, I was on news overload so I had to cut back on my MSNBC viewing and Hayes was not in my top four or five. The way he handled the Tara Reade allegations pushed him lower on my list. I really expected better from him. Major disappointment for me and I probably won't watch him at all now.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:14 PM

16. I atcually like him, but

He is much better at deep dives. The day to day news cycle doesn't really fit him.
But having said that he is in general much better at it then most.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:18 PM

17. I like him, he's honest. I may not agree with him 100%

of the time, but he's not a bullshitter nor a liar and I like him.

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Response to Greybnk48 (Reply #17)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:37 PM

33. He wasn't honest about Biden last week.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #33)

Tue May 5, 2020, 12:39 AM

63. I think he was trying to respect the accuser until it was clear she was lying,

given the climate these days and the "me too" movement. It's a necessary and long overdue tightrope to walk in regard to accusations of this sort. I don't see anything dishonest about what he did, he was wrong. That's it.

Truth be told, I shut his show off and I was pissed with him and MSNBC. I thought he was being stupid and taking political correctness too far and that MSNBC was flogging this dumb story way to long. But stupidity and dishonesty are not synonymous. He made a mistake.

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Response to Greybnk48 (Reply #63)

Tue May 5, 2020, 04:56 AM

69. So he smears an innocent man instead

Donít buy it.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:19 PM

19. I've watched him occasionally while waiting to watch Rachel.

Some shows were ok, but heís never been a favorite.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:20 PM

20. I like Chris Hayes a lot. But I'm not a purist and don't mind if my expectations are challenged.

Guy's on his show five hours a week, plus other media projects.

If he toed the line on everything I wanted I would be suspicious.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #20)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:21 PM

22. I have no desire for anyone toeing the line

His approach is too inconsistent for my taste. His stories are fine, it's his professionalism I want to see improved.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #20)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:00 PM

52. He went after the Democratic nominee using a story he know was bullshit...sorry that is

not an expectation challenging moment...that is just plain wrong. It was misrepresented at best but honestly...he lied.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:20 PM

21. He's intelligent and a good guy

Heís compassionate and smart.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:22 PM

23. I like him

I don't have to agree with someone a 100% to like them and listen to them.

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Response to Raine (Reply #23)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:30 PM

58. This.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:24 PM

24. I like him. No one forces me to watch.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:24 PM

25. I don't mind him at all

He isn't Rachel, but I don't think he is aweful.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:24 PM

26. Not just you

I was never a fan.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:28 PM

27. He did a good job when he had the weekend morning spot.

He doesn't seem to be able to adjust to a 5 day a week format. He's better when he has time to do some deeper investigation.

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Response to AJT (Reply #27)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:31 PM

28. I agree

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:32 PM

29. Well...

... he's okay. I've heard he is well-liked by the folks at NBC. That's odd because I do perceive him as a Bernie / AOC etc supporter. It's not "in your face," but I get it...

He also gets an extra re-run on the west coast, which increases his reach. I would expect them to give the extra re-run to Rachel Maddow. I didn't like Chris' Friday night "live" shows. It seemed like he was doing a "stand up" monologue. I guess I'm used to them, now... He "all in" on the Biden story, recently...

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:33 PM

30. I used to watch while waiting for Rachel. Gradually I quit tuning in because of

indifference. Then I caught Friday nightís Biden mess and his grin and Iím totally done. Iím liking Anderson Cooper more.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:38 PM

34. Agreed!

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:40 PM

35. if you have problems with something he's specifically reported, that's fair ground

...but this critique is almost groundless, and ignores the fact that he's one of just a hanhdful of journalists and reporters who reguularly report on issues which concern us, regularly promoting what we usually view as progressive causes around here.

What's the point of trashing him? We desperately need all of the voices that are willing to amplify our message, however theatrically lacking they might be, or whether they measure up to our every aspiration for news reporting and advocacy.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #35)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:54 PM

37. Actually, overly hyperbolic approaches ...

tend to cause people to ignore the presenter, and diminishes progressive causes overall. Maybe the choir he preaches to will like it, but others won't even listen.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #37)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:47 PM

43. I'd say the same about this factless op.

...

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:52 PM

36. I don't like him

I love him.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:56 PM

38. Never have. Never thought particularly smart and mostly didn't get it right. I have never thought

much of him.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 09:56 PM

39. I basically agree with you

He comes on just before Rachel and sometimes I would tune in early and catch his show. His style just doesn't appeal to me. I much prefer Rachel or Lawrence O'Donnell. Brian Williams has his issues too but I prefer him to Chris Hayes.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:28 PM

40. I like him.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:42 PM

41. I like Hayes

I try to get info from a variety of sources and he's one of the many.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:52 PM

44. He always reminded me of Harry Potter which I liked.

I didnít see the Biden thing, but I know that it wouldíve made me angry. Iím not sure if he should be fired but he certainly needs to address this again.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:53 PM

45. I can't stand him.

He's not honest.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:53 PM

46. I never liked Hayes particularly. I like Rachel and O'Donnell and Brian Williams. I also

watch Morning Joe but never watched them in 2016. I also like Steve Kornacki

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:54 PM

47. I like Chris Hayes

I don't think he should be fired.

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Response to blogslut (Reply #47)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:02 PM

54. I really missed

This story what happened? I usually watch Chris did he mess up?

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #54)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:08 PM

56. He covered the story about Biden and his former staffer.

I wasn't paying direct attention to it when it aired so I can't say exactly what was said during that show. Next day he was trending on Twitter with a hashtag to fire him.

I have the accuser's name on my blocked words list here because I don't have the energy to devote to that topic at the moment.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 10:57 PM

50. His questioning is poor.

He has on an interesting guest. He asks a question which includes all the information the guest would supply in their answer. The guest responds, yes, you're correct Chris. Why have the guest on? Chris continually wants to prove he knows everything the guest knows. Oh, and the breathless delivery.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:00 PM

53. He is one of the most intelligent people on MSNBC.

Not ready to throw him under the bus.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #53)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:02 PM

55. He has too many right wingers on his show and he is often snotty and condescending and he went after

Biden the entire primary and then the bullshit Reade story finished me as far as Hayes is concerned.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:25 PM

57. I like him!

He is able to get to the root of issues. His take on Ferguson was excellent.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:33 PM

59. He annoys the shit out of me.

I can't watch him. He looks like someone who's still sleeping in Superman pajamas.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Mon May 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

60. I do not like Hayes

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2020, 12:33 AM

61. I like him

And I think itís nice to have some younger representation. So many old guys!

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Response to pattyloutwo (Reply #61)

Tue May 5, 2020, 12:35 AM

62. I agree with their need for younger hosts

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2020, 12:45 AM

64. Can't stand him; never could. Even back in the day when he would fill in for Rachel, I couldn't....

reach the remote fast enough.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2020, 01:17 AM

65. This stunt still pisses me off

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2020, 02:43 AM

66. Hayes is sharp and fair-minded.

Rachel and Lawrence are good but their shows can be long and boring (their coverage during the pandemic has been great though).

Hayes is well read but also quick witted and moves through his segments at a good pace. He routinely eviscerates Trumpism, 'Trump TV' (as he refers to Fox News), etc.

He's not alt-left/Bernie Bro; he cares about social justice and is not antagonistic towards 'establishment' Dems who he often has on his show (Cuomo was on recently).

I too disliked when he covered the Reade story. But as a journalist he must cover a story that major outlets like the NYT, WaPo, AP etc are covering. I blame them for not doing due diligence and in playing the both-siderism game, where Biden's 'sins' and Trump's are cast as the same.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2020, 02:48 AM

67. I don't like him either.

Too smug, to emotional, and (as in this case) just not fair.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2020, 04:06 AM

68. I have a grudge against him but don't remember exactly why because it's from years ago.

Assume was passive-aggressive insults against Democrats like "elites" "neoliberal" "status quo" and the like. He wrote a whole book about elites ruining America. What was THAT about? Often he's perfectly fine. It's stupid to bash him for having Republicans on his show or bash him for not being perfect in every interview.

The problem is the emotional revolution/anti-establishment/elites thing. He has some sort of problem with people like Obama and Hillary and Biden who believe institutions and government can work if regulated. Maybe he'd be better off in a place where he can really go all-in revolution omg-elites. Then he wouldn't have to try to be objective.



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