A mutant coronavirus has emerged, even more contagious than the original, study says

[LiberalArkie]

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Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.

In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

The 33-page report was posted Thursday on BioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer reviewed, an effort to speed up collaborations with scientists working on COVID-19 vaccines or treatments. That research has been largely based on the genetic sequence of earlier strains and might not be effective against the new one.

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https://news.yahoo.com/mutant-coronavirus-emerged-even-more-110046843.html

Another article:

Link to tweet

[sinkingfeeling]

1. Open up everything! ☠☠☠

[BSdetect]

2. This is not unexpected and will make people in crowds very vulnerable - and the rest of us thanks to

them

Rally for trump and die fuckers

If you believe anything he says you need to watch him in this video

&feature=youtu.be

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. tRump never expected white people could infect US, so he wasted 5 wks before closing Europe

and another week before closing off UK.

The lost 5 weeks he spent golfing and rallying.

[Scarsdale]

35. He is determined to place the blame

on JYNA. Maybe he thinks they will forgive his debts to them, to have him back off?? What Jyna should do is take back all the Trademarks that Iwanka has from them.

[riversedge]

3. k and R

[SheltieLover]

4. K&R!

Thank you for posting!

In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned.

[BSdetect]

6. We need to keep this thread / news visible - may be a real uptake in deaths if this proves accurate

[smirkymonkey]

7. The news just keeps getting better every day.

What's next, festering boils?

[DBoon]

11. A plague of murder wasps?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/05/asian-giant-hornets-arrive-united-states/

[Hestia]

36. When Gustav (2008) blew through our area, I saw one of these with a white head

instead of yellow. It was attached to the screen in the LR, which was on the second story. Freaky since I had just watched special on these hornets on National Geographic a week or two before. Frickin' huge!

I understand though, that it is too cold in winter here and AFAIK, the one and only sighting. I've seen no mention about killer hornets here.

Maybe when Nature gets back to "normal" invasive's like this will naturally die off.

Sorry for thread drift. Back to your regularly scheduled program.

[Boomerproud]

12. I know. Still waiting for test results.

This situation cannot continue as is.

[Roc2020]

30. Literally I can't think of any day since

the stay at home orders were issued that have gotten better. So called 'opening up' is not a sign of things getting better, just nod from the government that they have enough facilities not to overrun hospitals. But everyday more and more people get sick go to the hospital and some ultimately die.

[Blue_true]

56. If you hear thundering hooves coming down your street, run like hell.

Although running likely will be futile, since the four riders of the apocalypse will find us anyway.

But, at least Mike Pence would be wetting his pants with joy, end times would have arrived.

[DrToast]

8. FYI...this study is getting criticzed heavily be Medical experts on Twitter

The study is a preprint and has not gone through peer review yet.

Here's one critique of the study. Click through to read the thread:

Link to tweet

[obamanut2012]

19. Yup, it's a raw preprint

Not even acceptable for an undergrad's paper. I think kit is a very interesting study, and I suspect they are on the right track, but maybe not. I'd prefer a peer-reviewed copy before I give weight to it.

[BadgerMom]

34. Pre-print is a pre-print. I get that. But...

I think the LA Times article about this study does a good job of informing while avoiding sensationalism. I came away with an understanding that the information is new, but that it is being disseminated largely for those researching potential vaccines in the hope those researchers can take into account the new findings.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-emerged-more-contagious-than-original

[bluestarone]

9. tRUMPS PLAN?

Everybody DEAD! NO election! What an UNHOLY fucker he is!!!!!

[genxlib]

10. This seems to confirm what was previously suspected

And it is the only thing that really explains why the experiences of places like Spain , Italy and NYC are so different from other places.

I have one major beef with this article is that it is presented as present tense as if this just happened. Even if the study is new, they are talking about a mutation that occurred months ago. It is an explanation of what has already happened but is presented in a headline that communicates an immediate new danger.

[LiberalArkie]

14. The west coast hit with Wuhan strain and NYC hit with Lombardi strain maybe?

I am also wondering if the amount of vitamin D made by the spring breakers in Florida did help them. My guess was that the Covid would have been spreading like crazy, but it did not seem to happen.

[stopdiggin]

48. and we could also speculate that massive amounts of alcohol ... (nt)

[LiberalArkie]

51. That would have been Mardi Gras. That was the first recorded in Pine Bluff Arkansas

[Alex4Martinez]

13. Map the mutations on the Nextstrain site:

https://nextstrain.org/ncov

And, I find the link embedded in your link really interesting, read the comments.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1

[packman]

18. Fascinating - that link to "nextstrain"

Hit the play button on the global map on the right. Shows how the virus grew and spread world-wide.

[davekriss]

15. Like the common cold, mutates all the time

In part, this is why we don’t have vaccines for the cold. Pesky little things keep changing themselves. The problem with SARS-CoV-2 is it’s far more lethal than the cold, thus the urgency and $$$ being poured into finding a vaccine.

A hope: SARS-CoV-2 mutates again into a less lethal form. Perhaps keeping us coughing and sneezing longer, perhaps resulting in the new virus becoming more successful at spreading. This less lethal form could overrun the other strains and we’re left with ... a bad common cold.

I can hope, can’t I?

[BGBD]

39. its not unreasonable

the seasonal flu we get now is descendant from the same H1N1 that killed millions in the 1928 pandemic.

One way or another CV19 will not be a problem one day, question is when.

[Blue_true]

57. If we are lucky, we will get your wish.

But the last pandemic had the virus mutate into a far more lethal form, the 1918 virus then went on a killing spree.

As I piece together stuff that I am reading, it looks like SARS-COV-2 mutates to a more deadly form while maintaining the same incubation duration (the mutant European strain appears to be deadlier than the strain that came out of Wuhan).

[Texin]

16. GENXLIB, now a new "syndrome" has emerged in the NY area affecting children

who previously had Covid (or have had recent tests that indicated they were previously inflected). The syndrome presents as extreme inflammation of the blood vessels causing fever, low blood pressure and creating problems with the heart. The age range is from about four to fifteen. Since these kids are in the NY or tri-state area, it would seem that they must have been previously infected with the mutant strain of the virus that spread from Europe earlier. They're describing it as being most like Kawasaki Syndrome.

[obamanut2012]

17. non-peer reviewed preprint

Until it is peer-reviewed and more properly vetted, this should be taken with an entire shaker of salt. If something is not acceptable research data for a third-year undergrad paper, then it should not be acceptable for us, either. It is interesting and provocative, and I'm really looking forward to seeing the final peer-reviewed research.

[LiberalArkie]

20. You do realize that peer reviewed papers describing Covid-19 are not out yet. Should we take that

the rumoured virus located in a few locations is real?

[Alex4Martinez]

21. Or, at the other end of the spectrum of possibilities, this:

BREAKING! COVID-19 Warning: Study Shows Of Spike Mutations Of SARS-CoV-2, Making It More Transmissible And Dangerous.The Reality Is That There Is Unlikely To Be A Vaccine

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-warning-study-shows-of-spike-mutations-of-sars-cov-2,-making-it-more-transmissible-and-dangerous-the-reality-is-that-there-is-unlike

[AtheistCrusader]

26. Totally fair.

This has been a running point from multiple investigations, but you are correct, this data/study is preliminary and we have much work to do, before we think of this problem as 'understood'.

[uponit7771]

22. This could be relatively over with testing, tracing and isolation

[Native]

23. L.A.Times has just been called out for printing a similar article with the alarmist heading about a

New Strain. Turns out the new strain is what is going around in the US currently, but they're making it sound like it's something new:

hello, what the hell https://t.co/gQAQzdV58v https://t.co/HM8WebeSpx

Link to tweet

?s=19

The “mutant coronavirus” to which it is referring is one that we are already experiencing here NOW. The headline is alarmist & makes it seem like there’s a new one. Reading the article makes it clear that there WAS a virus in Europe which mutated to the one we have now in the US. https://t.co/Od42DniJ1D

Link to tweet

?s=19

[Fiendish Thingy]

46. All critical thinkers should reject alarmist pseudo-science nt

[AtheistCrusader]

24. This needs to be rubbed in Trump's face every time he howls about China.

'closing the border' is the only thing he has to lean on as 'proactive' effort.

He didn't close the border to china. He closed the border to Chinese nationals coming from china. The virus doesn't care the nationality of the person carrying it. It's happy to ride along with whomever.

And the prevalent strain causing most of our deaths isn't from China. It's from Europe.

[Ford_Prefect]

25. Any way you read this it seems that it is now a matter of WHEN you will be infected rather than if..

...And how often you may be.

Will you be infected after there is a vaccine?
Will you be infected after you've had the vaccine and thus may survive it?
Will you be infected after some fool re-opens your state or your town or your children's school?
Will you be infected after there are reliable, rapid, and available tests so you might have a chance of getting treatment?
Will you be infected after there is reliable treatment available in your local hospital while there are beds and living staff to care for you?
Will you be infected after the Stock market recovers, so you may just be able to pay your medical bills?
Will you be infected after the election? This assumes that they haven't found a way to defer it until the stock market rises again.

[LiberalArkie]

27. At least I don't think I got infected while having Carotid artery surgery last week. That I know of.

Arterial surgery during a pandemic, what could possibly go wrong?

[Ford_Prefect]

31. Glad you made it through. We are gonna need every vote we have left.

[bucolic_frolic]

28. Science, Schmience! Makes urgent re-opening even safer!

Fight disease with denial and religion! You too could turn orange!

[Politicub]

29. I was worried about the virus evolving

If it has evolved to a more aggressive strain, there is nothing that will stop it from becoming an even more awful strain.

[gab13by13]

32. Went to the grocery store, mask required.

Had a Trumper tell me these masks are a joke. I live in a heavy Trump little town so I learned not to argue with them it's a waste of time. I just said, maybe, maybe not.

[LiberalArkie]

33. I like throwing in "yea I am a scaredy cat, I even have gun at home to protect me"

I don't but I like the WTF appear on their face.

[gab13by13]

38. I used the fear thing too,

but I turned it on them. One Trumper told me he keeps loaded guns in his house, I told him, I don't lock my door, I'm not afraid. It didn't matter, he just replied, because I have loaded guns I'm not afraid either. They are members of a cult.

[Iggo]

44. "No, that's WHY you have loaded guns."

[Wednesdays]

58. Quick solution:

Just start coughing. Shuts 'em up REAL fast!

[Aristus]

37. Anyone want to take bets that Trump isn't going to tell his followers to beat up Europeans?

Anyone?...

[denem]

40. What if the variant emerged in Norway?

[Aristus]

41. Nah. Trump wants Norwegians to emigrate here because...I don't know...

...reasons, I guess...

[denem]

42. I think it can be traced to the white supremacist

who killed 69 members of the Norwegian left Labour Party. His manifesto advocated the expulsion of muslims from Europe, and outlawing feminism.

[liberalmuse]

43. Forget horror movies.

As if this weren't already highly transmissible.

[Fiendish Thingy]

45. WARNING: THIS STUDY HAS NOT BEEN PEER REVIEWED AND MUST BE CONSIDERED INCONCLUSIVE nt

[mopinko]

54. and who debunked the second infection bit yesterday.

[ancianita]

47. Governor Cuomo noted this report a couple of days ago. So he's on it. Studying research like crazy.

[stopdiggin]

49. An old story. With a new sexy-alarmist headline. Yay!

Talking about the virus that came from Europe to the east coast. This has been in the news for .. weeks, if not months. Same strain that (with the exception of the west coast) has been here in this country all along.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

50. K&R

[Fiendish Thingy]

52. Scientific rebuttal from virologist on LA times irresponsible reporting :

Link to tweet

[LiberalArkie]

53. But mine wasn't from the LA Times, it was from the Los Alamos, close

[Blue_true]

55. I read earlier tonight that a mysterious illness believed to be related to covid19

in making kids sick. The article mentioned that 15 kids, from the age of 3 to 15 were being impacted by an infection that attacks their vascular system throughout their bodies, including the heart. The article said that none had died, but several were on respirators.