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nmbluesky

(2,561 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:32 PM Sep 2012

I would want to comment for you all

Sorry for my English. It is my second language.

I've watched violence protest in the middle east about the video. I'm sure understand the people feel so insult by video their belief. But the violence is not nessency. Because, the America government does nothing with video, because in land of the free and we have right free of speech. If they want to make stupid the video. That fine. If we don't like that video, we have speak out and boycott, we don't have to watch those movie. I don't want to see Arab world looks bad image. I want to see the better image if they don't like those movie. They should speak out than violent and killing the people,

If anyone's did fun of the belief, race, human, country should we do violence protest, no and peaceful protest yes.

I'm so tired to see protest so violence. They should be hurt or killed. It would be bad image, what we did see this happening. We should stand up and speak up the rally peaceful.

It really sad to see the people become crazy, blame, point finger, grow to hateful... Or whatever.

So now I want to tell you about this,

Good night and peace tomorrow. Thank you. And I love you all.

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I would want to comment for you all (Original Post) nmbluesky Sep 2012 OP
Recommended. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #1
Your post is very important and we all should take heed. I think if you don't like southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #2
What English problems nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #3
Thank you nmbluesky Sep 2012 #25
Beautiful post, your English is just fine. Avalux Sep 2012 #4
agree MFM008 Sep 2012 #5
I admire the Libyans who went into the streets with their peace signs to tell the world that they do patrice Sep 2012 #6
Sure we agree...can we get them to agree though. dkf Sep 2012 #7
The truth is coming out Heather MC Sep 2012 #8
Some messages transcend the limitations of language. Thank you. Beautiful post. nolabear Sep 2012 #9
We get it Nmbluesky. 99Forever Sep 2012 #10
We love you too. DevonRex Sep 2012 #11
I understood you perfectly Marrah_G Sep 2012 #12
America sign language nmbluesky Sep 2012 #26
I read everything Tony Hillerman writes Mopar151 Sep 2012 #36
Well no nmbluesky Sep 2012 #38
Ahh! A fellow deaf DU'er! Panasonic Sep 2012 #37
Yes nmbluesky Sep 2012 #39
Not to worry. tavernier Sep 2012 #13
There's nothing like religion to bring out the worst in people Oddman Sep 2012 #14
Bless your heart. I know it's awful. Peace tomorrow to you too. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #15
Thank you for your post. You are so right, violence is never the right way sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #16
I understand everything you say defacto7 Sep 2012 #17
Thanks for such a nice post! pacalo Sep 2012 #18
Language is only a means of exchange Mopar151 Sep 2012 #19
Thanks for contributing this, Mopar151. I'd not seen it before. NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #32
Came from DU2 to me Mopar151 Sep 2012 #33
I have a source: Islamic Supreme Council, January 8, 2010 NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #34
English is my first language, yet you expressed my sentiments more gateley Sep 2012 #20
Thank you nmbluesky Sep 2012 #27
As-Salamu `Alaykum citizen blues Sep 2012 #21
Peace nmbluesky and Smickey Sep 2012 #22
Articulate and insightful. Thanks. Scuba Sep 2012 #23
Good morning everyone nmbluesky Sep 2012 #24
Have a fabulous Friday, nmbluesky! NYC_SKP Sep 2012 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #28
I watch for your posts all the time and appreciate them. This one is a gem! JohnnyLib2 Sep 2012 #29
We understand the protest, but do not accept the violence. porphyrian Sep 2012 #30
You are a special part of this community and your post is wonderful. cbayer Sep 2012 #35
U re awesome nmbluesky Sep 2012 #40
k&r... spanone Sep 2012 #41
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Recommended.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:39 PM
Sep 2012

And don't ever let anyone criticize your English skills, nmbluesky!

I love reading your posts, and this is a great one!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. Your post is very important and we all should take heed. I think if you don't like
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 10:43 PM
Sep 2012

the movie then don't see it. If you want to protest please protest peacefully. You can make a better point. The old saying, you can get more with honey than you can with vingar. It is very true. Thank you for your prospective.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
6. I admire the Libyans who went into the streets with their peace signs to tell the world that they do
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:02 PM
Sep 2012

not approve of those who killed Ambassador Stevens and his staff. Some of the peaceful Libyans with signs even said that Ambassador Stevens was their friend; they must be sad for him. We share their loss.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
7. Sure we agree...can we get them to agree though.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:04 PM
Sep 2012

The Muslim brotherhood wants us to make it illegal to create movies like that. I wonder what it will take for them to accept that we don't throw people in jail for this sort of thing.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
8. The truth is coming out
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:04 PM
Sep 2012

the protesters had nothing to do with the deadly attack on 9/11

we here in the US have the freedom to peacefully protest. and if it is our government intent to spread democracy. the most democratic thing you can do is protest an unfairness. the people who made that video on vile and are not representative of the majority of Americans in our country. my hope is that the people in Egypt come to understand that 1 day.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
36. I read everything Tony Hillerman writes
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:26 PM
Sep 2012

I beleive your Navajo neighbors would call you the Dancing Hands People. I know a bit of ASL, and think ASL belongs in public schools like Latin does. an odd question - is hoisting sign incorporated in ASL, or is it just a trade thing?

nmbluesky

(2,561 posts)
38. Well no
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:32 AM
Sep 2012

ASL, America sign language, the deaf use sign language, it is not Latin or Indian. It is different between Indian sign and ASL.

tavernier

(12,368 posts)
13. Not to worry.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:33 PM
Sep 2012

Those people will never win in the end. They will cause pain and sadness for a while, but the world is changing and getting smaller, and where we used to be strangers, we now are all neighbors. Turn on Twitter, Facebook, Democraticunderground... and all the other places that make the planet a neighborhood. Those screaming people with torches and clubs belong to another world that soon will be no more. Like the dinosaurs, they are already dead.

Peace to you too.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. Thank you for your post. You are so right, violence is never the right way
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:49 PM
Sep 2012

to resolve problems. We need to learn that also.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
17. I understand everything you say
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:50 PM
Sep 2012

and I believe most Americans agree with you. Keep freedom alive and well, and though the people of hate will try to destroy, the people of love will build the future.

Peace.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
19. Language is only a means of exchange
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:17 AM
Sep 2012

It is the ideas that matter, and you're doing fine. You may find this interesting - It is a fatwah - a religous letter (I think...) issued by many of the Imams of the US and Canada a couple years ago.

CALGARY – Top Imams affiliated with the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada have issued a fatwa calling those terrorists who attack the United States and Canada “evil.”
The Fatwa is the most important condemnation of terrorists who try to hurt people living in Canada. Extremists have been told that any attack on the U.S. or on Canada will be construed as an attack on 10 million Muslims who live in these two countries.
“This is the first Fatwa by the Muslim clergy declaring attacks on Canada and the United States as attack on Muslims. Following is the text of the Fatwa. A Fatwa is a religious edict.
“We, the undersigned Imams, are issuing the following Fatwa in order to guide the Muslims of North America regarding the attacks on Canada and the United States by the terrorists and the extremists,” said the declaration.
“In our view, these attacks are evil and Islam requires from Muslims to stand up against this evil. In the holy Qur’an Almighty Allah (God) orders Muslims:
“Let there among you be a group that summon to all that is beneficial commands what is proper and forbids what is improper; they are the ones who will prosper.” (3:104)
“Believing men and believing women are protecting friends of one another; they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong; they perform salat and give zakat…” (9.71)
“Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said in a Hadith;
“When people see a wrong-doer and do nothing to stop him, they may well be visited by God with a punishment.”
“Therefore, it is an obligation upon us (Imams) to inform all Muslims around the world that Muslims in Canada and the United States have complete freedom to practice Islam.
“There is no single city in Canada and the United States where MASAJIDS (Mosques) are not built. In all major cities Islamic schools provide education to Muslim children about Qur’an and the Islamic traditions.
“Thousands of Muslims perform Hajj every year and travel to Saudi Arabia with complete freedom and respect. In the month of Ramadan, both Canadian and the United States governments recognize the occasion and greet all Muslim citizens.
“Muslims pray five daily prayers in mosques without any fear or restrictions. Muslims have complete freedom to pay Zakat (poor due) to the charity or a person of their choice. Muslims have complete freedom to celebrate their festivals openly, publicly and Islamically. Muslims enjoy freedom of religion just like Christians, Jews and others. No one stops us from obeying Allah and His Messenger (Peace be upon him). No one stops us from preaching Islam and practicing Islam. In many cases, Muslims have more freedom to practice Islam here in Canada and the United States than many Muslim countries.”
“In fact, the constitutions of the United States and Canada are very close to the Islamic guiding principles of human rights and freedom. There is no conflict between the Islamic values of freedom and justice and the Canadian /US values of freedom and justice.”
“Therefore, any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on the freedom of Canadian and American Muslims. Any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on thousands of mosques across North America. It is a duty of every Canadian and American Muslim to safeguard Canada and the USA.
“They must expose any person, Muslim OR non-Muslim, who would cause harm to fellow Canadians OR Americans. We, Canadian and American Muslims, must condemn and stand up against these attacks on Canada and the United States.”
“May Allah (God) save Canada, the United States and the entire world from the evil of wrong doers. Ameen.”
Signed by:
Prof. Imam Syed B. Soharwardy – Calgary
Allama Imam Ghalib Hussain Chishty – Calgary
Allama Imam Syed Mukhtar Naeemi – Houston, USA
Allama Imam Muhammad Nasir Qadri – Montreal
Allama Imam Abdul Latif No’mani – Vancouver
Imam Hafiz Muhammad Zarif Naeemi – Calgary
Imam Nizamuddin Sayed Qadri – Calgary
Imam Qazi Bashiruddin Qadri – Hamilton
Imam Osman Qazi – Toronto
Imam Saeed Ahmed Saifee – Toronto
Alimah Hafizah Sister Zaheera Tariq – Calgary
Imam Ayaz Khan Qadri – Calgary


In the musical language of Boogie Blues, this says it well:


 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
32. Thanks for contributing this, Mopar151. I'd not seen it before.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sep 2012

It should be an original post, I think.

I hope you'll consider posting it.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
33. Came from DU2 to me
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:17 PM
Sep 2012

I gotta go fix the truck, so i'll leave it to you to google up a provenance, so as to pass it along as authentic & real. Rock on, kill the hate!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
34. I have a source: Islamic Supreme Council, January 8, 2010
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:09 PM
Sep 2012

Date: January 8, 2010

ISCC affiliated Imams Issue Important Fatwa
Attack on Canada and the United States is Attack on Muslims Too
Over 10 million Muslims Live in North America

(Calgary) Twenty Imams affiliated with the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada have issued a Fatwa today declaring the attacks on Canada and the United States by any extremist will be the attack on 10 million Muslims living in North America. This is the first Fatwa by the Muslim clergy declaring attacks on Canada and the United States as attack on Muslims too. Following is the text of the Fatwa.

FATWA (religious edict)

In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful

We, the undersigned Imams, are issuing the following Fatwa in order to guide the Muslims of North America regarding the attacks on Canada and the United States by the terrorists and the extremists. In our view, these attacks are evil and Islam requires from Muslims to stand up against this evil. In the holy Qur’an Almighty Allah orders Muslims,

"Let there among you be a group that summon to all that is beneficial commands what is proper and forbids what is improper; they are the ones who will prosper." (3:104)

"Believing men and believing women are protecting friends of one another; they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong; they perform salat and give zakat..." (9 1)

"Those who, if We establish them in the land (with authority), establish regular prayers and practice regular charity and enjoin the right and forbid the wrong..." (22:41)

Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said in a Hadith;

"When people see a wrong-doer and do nothing to stop him, they may well be visited by God with a punishment."

Therefore, it is an obligation upon us (Imams) to inform all Muslims around the world that Muslims in Canada and the United States have complete freedom to practice Islam. There is no single city in Canada and the United States where MASAJIDS (Mosques) are not built. In all major cities Islamic schools provide education to Muslim children about Qur’an and the Islamic traditions. Thousands of Muslims perform Hajj every year and travel to Saudi Arabia with complete freedom and respect. In the month of Ramadan, both Canadian and the United States governments recognize the occasion and greet all Muslim citizens. Muslims pray five daily prayers in mosques without any fear or restrictions. Muslims have complete freedom to pay Zakat (poor due) to the charity or a person of their choice. Muslims have complete freedom to celebrate their festivals openly, publicly and Islamically. Muslims enjoy freedom of religion just like Christians, Jews and others. No one stops us from obeying Allah and His Messenger (Peace be upon him). No one stops us from preaching Islam and practicing Islam. In many cases, Muslims have more freedom to practice Islam here in Canada and the United States than many Muslim countries.

In fact, the constitutions of the United States and Canada are very close to the Islamic guiding principles of human rights and freedom. There is no conflict between the Islamic values of freedom and justice and the Canadian /US values of freedom and justice.

Therefore, any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on the freedom of Canadian and American Muslims. Any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on thousands of mosques across North America. It is a duty of every Canadian and American Muslim to safeguard Canada and the USA. They must expose any person, Muslim OR non-Muslim, who would cause harm to fellow Canadians OR Americans. We, Canadian and American Muslims, must condemn and stand up against these attacks on Canada and the United States.



May Allah save Canada, the United States and the entire world from the evil of wrong doers. Ameen.



Signed by:

Prof. Imam Syed B. Soharwardy - Calgary
Allama Imam Ghalib Hussain Chishty - Calgary
Allama Imam Syed Mukhtar Naeemi – Houston, USA
Allama Imam Muhammad Nasir Qadri - Montreal
Allama Imam Abdul Latif No’mani - Vancouver
Imam Hafiz Muhammad Zarif Naeemi - Airdrie
Imam Nizamuddin Sayed Qadri - Calgary
Imam Qazi Bashiruddin Qadri - Hamilton
Imam Osman Qazi - Toronto
Imam Saeed Ahmed Saifee - Toronto
Alimah Hafizah Sister Zaheera Tariq - Calgary
Imam Ayaz Khan Qadri - Calgary
Alimah Sister Fatimah Zohra - Toronto
Imam Shahid Bashir Lahori - Calgary
Imam Hafiz Intizar Ahmed Qadri - Montreal
Imam Sayed Sajid Qadri – Calgary
Imam Arif Mahmood Naqshbandi - Calgary
Imam Muhammad Anees Siddiqui – Calgary
Sister Shahana Kamil – Mississauga
Mr. Mushtaq Khan - Mississauga



Additional endorsements

Imam Sayyid Ahmed Amiruddin– Mississauga
Imam Salim Chishti - New Lebanon, New York, USA
Sister Khadijah Chmilovska – Muslim Chaplain at the University of Calgary
Allama Imam Abdul Ghani Owaisy – Houston, USA
Allama Imam Muhammad Amin Mujaddadi – Live Oak, California, USA
Allama Imam Faiz Rasool Qadri – Houston, USA
Allama Zubair Naqshbandi – San Francisco, USA
Dr. Asad U Khan – Winnipeg, Manitoba

For further questions, please contact Imam Syed Soharwardy at 403-831-6330 OR email, contact@islamicsupremecouncil.com. Thanks

Note: As we receive more endorsements from our honourable Imams, we will be updating the list on regular basis.

http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.com/iscc-fatwa-against%20terrorism.htm

gateley

(62,683 posts)
20. English is my first language, yet you expressed my sentiments more
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:38 AM
Sep 2012

eloquently than I could have. Thank you for speaking for so many of us.

nmbluesky

(2,561 posts)
24. Good morning everyone
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:39 AM
Sep 2012

Thank for understanding to ready my post last night. ... Well.. Some comment asked what is my first language! The first language is America sign language. I'm deaf

Thank you, I have to go for work today
Peace out..

Response to nmbluesky (Original post)

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
30. We understand the protest, but do not accept the violence.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:51 AM
Sep 2012

Thank you for your understanding. I hope we can make those who protest understand the truth about the video before there is any further violence, to our embassies or to the protesters.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
35. You are a special part of this community and your post is wonderful.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:12 PM
Sep 2012

And you are brave to put your thoughts into a language that is not always comfortable for you.

You've come a long way and I think everyone here gets your message loud and clear.

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