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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI would want to comment for you all
Sorry for my English. It is my second language.
I've watched violence protest in the middle east about the video. I'm sure understand the people feel so insult by video their belief. But the violence is not nessency. Because, the America government does nothing with video, because in land of the free and we have right free of speech. If they want to make stupid the video. That fine. If we don't like that video, we have speak out and boycott, we don't have to watch those movie. I don't want to see Arab world looks bad image. I want to see the better image if they don't like those movie. They should speak out than violent and killing the people,
If anyone's did fun of the belief, race, human, country should we do violence protest, no and peaceful protest yes.
I'm so tired to see protest so violence. They should be hurt or killed. It would be bad image, what we did see this happening. We should stand up and speak up the rally peaceful.
It really sad to see the people become crazy, blame, point finger, grow to hateful... Or whatever.
So now I want to tell you about this,
Good night and peace tomorrow. Thank you. And I love you all.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And don't ever let anyone criticize your English skills, nmbluesky!
I love reading your posts, and this is a great one!
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)the movie then don't see it. If you want to protest please protest peacefully. You can make a better point. The old saying, you can get more with honey than you can with vingar. It is very true. Thank you for your prospective.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I think we all got it.
And as you practice, the language improves.
nmbluesky
(2,561 posts)Yeah my english is improved
Avalux
(35,015 posts)If only eveyone could read it, and hear you.
MFM008
(19,803 posts)%100
patrice
(47,992 posts)not approve of those who killed Ambassador Stevens and his staff. Some of the peaceful Libyans with signs even said that Ambassador Stevens was their friend; they must be sad for him. We share their loss.
dkf
(37,305 posts)The Muslim brotherhood wants us to make it illegal to create movies like that. I wonder what it will take for them to accept that we don't throw people in jail for this sort of thing.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)the protesters had nothing to do with the deadly attack on 9/11
we here in the US have the freedom to peacefully protest. and if it is our government intent to spread democracy. the most democratic thing you can do is protest an unfairness. the people who made that video on vile and are not representative of the majority of Americans in our country. my hope is that the people in Egypt come to understand that 1 day.
nolabear
(41,932 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Thank you and peace to you tomorrow and always.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Goodnight.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)What is your first language?
nmbluesky
(2,561 posts)I'm Deaf
Mopar151
(9,974 posts)I beleive your Navajo neighbors would call you the Dancing Hands People. I know a bit of ASL, and think ASL belongs in public schools like Latin does. an odd question - is hoisting sign incorporated in ASL, or is it just a trade thing?
nmbluesky
(2,561 posts)ASL, America sign language, the deaf use sign language, it is not Latin or Indian. It is different between Indian sign and ASL.
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)I'm sure you checked out our Deaf & HH group..
tavernier
(12,368 posts)Those people will never win in the end. They will cause pain and sadness for a while, but the world is changing and getting smaller, and where we used to be strangers, we now are all neighbors. Turn on Twitter, Facebook, Democraticunderground... and all the other places that make the planet a neighborhood. Those screaming people with torches and clubs belong to another world that soon will be no more. Like the dinosaurs, they are already dead.
Peace to you too.
Oddman
(1,378 posts)Death over delusions - how tragic.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to resolve problems. We need to learn that also.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)and I believe most Americans agree with you. Keep freedom alive and well, and though the people of hate will try to destroy, the people of love will build the future.
Peace.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)I agree with you completely!
Mopar151
(9,974 posts)It is the ideas that matter, and you're doing fine. You may find this interesting - It is a fatwah - a religous letter (I think...) issued by many of the Imams of the US and Canada a couple years ago.
CALGARY Top Imams affiliated with the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada have issued a fatwa calling those terrorists who attack the United States and Canada evil.
The Fatwa is the most important condemnation of terrorists who try to hurt people living in Canada. Extremists have been told that any attack on the U.S. or on Canada will be construed as an attack on 10 million Muslims who live in these two countries.
This is the first Fatwa by the Muslim clergy declaring attacks on Canada and the United States as attack on Muslims. Following is the text of the Fatwa. A Fatwa is a religious edict.
We, the undersigned Imams, are issuing the following Fatwa in order to guide the Muslims of North America regarding the attacks on Canada and the United States by the terrorists and the extremists, said the declaration.
In our view, these attacks are evil and Islam requires from Muslims to stand up against this evil. In the holy Quran Almighty Allah (God) orders Muslims:
Let there among you be a group that summon to all that is beneficial commands what is proper and forbids what is improper; they are the ones who will prosper. (3:104)
Believing men and believing women are protecting friends of one another; they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong; they perform salat and give zakat (9.71)
Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said in a Hadith;
When people see a wrong-doer and do nothing to stop him, they may well be visited by God with a punishment.
Therefore, it is an obligation upon us (Imams) to inform all Muslims around the world that Muslims in Canada and the United States have complete freedom to practice Islam.
There is no single city in Canada and the United States where MASAJIDS (Mosques) are not built. In all major cities Islamic schools provide education to Muslim children about Quran and the Islamic traditions.
Thousands of Muslims perform Hajj every year and travel to Saudi Arabia with complete freedom and respect. In the month of Ramadan, both Canadian and the United States governments recognize the occasion and greet all Muslim citizens.
Muslims pray five daily prayers in mosques without any fear or restrictions. Muslims have complete freedom to pay Zakat (poor due) to the charity or a person of their choice. Muslims have complete freedom to celebrate their festivals openly, publicly and Islamically. Muslims enjoy freedom of religion just like Christians, Jews and others. No one stops us from obeying Allah and His Messenger (Peace be upon him). No one stops us from preaching Islam and practicing Islam. In many cases, Muslims have more freedom to practice Islam here in Canada and the United States than many Muslim countries.
In fact, the constitutions of the United States and Canada are very close to the Islamic guiding principles of human rights and freedom. There is no conflict between the Islamic values of freedom and justice and the Canadian /US values of freedom and justice.
Therefore, any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on the freedom of Canadian and American Muslims. Any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on thousands of mosques across North America. It is a duty of every Canadian and American Muslim to safeguard Canada and the USA.
They must expose any person, Muslim OR non-Muslim, who would cause harm to fellow Canadians OR Americans. We, Canadian and American Muslims, must condemn and stand up against these attacks on Canada and the United States.
May Allah (God) save Canada, the United States and the entire world from the evil of wrong doers. Ameen.
Signed by:
Prof. Imam Syed B. Soharwardy Calgary
Allama Imam Ghalib Hussain Chishty Calgary
Allama Imam Syed Mukhtar Naeemi Houston, USA
Allama Imam Muhammad Nasir Qadri Montreal
Allama Imam Abdul Latif Nomani Vancouver
Imam Hafiz Muhammad Zarif Naeemi Calgary
Imam Nizamuddin Sayed Qadri Calgary
Imam Qazi Bashiruddin Qadri Hamilton
Imam Osman Qazi Toronto
Imam Saeed Ahmed Saifee Toronto
Alimah Hafizah Sister Zaheera Tariq Calgary
Imam Ayaz Khan Qadri Calgary
In the musical language of Boogie Blues, this says it well:
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It should be an original post, I think.
I hope you'll consider posting it.
Mopar151
(9,974 posts)I gotta go fix the truck, so i'll leave it to you to google up a provenance, so as to pass it along as authentic & real. Rock on, kill the hate!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Date: January 8, 2010
ISCC affiliated Imams Issue Important Fatwa
Attack on Canada and the United States is Attack on Muslims Too
Over 10 million Muslims Live in North America
(Calgary) Twenty Imams affiliated with the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada have issued a Fatwa today declaring the attacks on Canada and the United States by any extremist will be the attack on 10 million Muslims living in North America. This is the first Fatwa by the Muslim clergy declaring attacks on Canada and the United States as attack on Muslims too. Following is the text of the Fatwa.
FATWA (religious edict)
In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful
We, the undersigned Imams, are issuing the following Fatwa in order to guide the Muslims of North America regarding the attacks on Canada and the United States by the terrorists and the extremists. In our view, these attacks are evil and Islam requires from Muslims to stand up against this evil. In the holy Quran Almighty Allah orders Muslims,
"Let there among you be a group that summon to all that is beneficial commands what is proper and forbids what is improper; they are the ones who will prosper." (3:104)
"Believing men and believing women are protecting friends of one another; they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong; they perform salat and give zakat..." (9 1)
"Those who, if We establish them in the land (with authority), establish regular prayers and practice regular charity and enjoin the right and forbid the wrong..." (22:41)
Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said in a Hadith;
"When people see a wrong-doer and do nothing to stop him, they may well be visited by God with a punishment."
Therefore, it is an obligation upon us (Imams) to inform all Muslims around the world that Muslims in Canada and the United States have complete freedom to practice Islam. There is no single city in Canada and the United States where MASAJIDS (Mosques) are not built. In all major cities Islamic schools provide education to Muslim children about Quran and the Islamic traditions. Thousands of Muslims perform Hajj every year and travel to Saudi Arabia with complete freedom and respect. In the month of Ramadan, both Canadian and the United States governments recognize the occasion and greet all Muslim citizens. Muslims pray five daily prayers in mosques without any fear or restrictions. Muslims have complete freedom to pay Zakat (poor due) to the charity or a person of their choice. Muslims have complete freedom to celebrate their festivals openly, publicly and Islamically. Muslims enjoy freedom of religion just like Christians, Jews and others. No one stops us from obeying Allah and His Messenger (Peace be upon him). No one stops us from preaching Islam and practicing Islam. In many cases, Muslims have more freedom to practice Islam here in Canada and the United States than many Muslim countries.
In fact, the constitutions of the United States and Canada are very close to the Islamic guiding principles of human rights and freedom. There is no conflict between the Islamic values of freedom and justice and the Canadian /US values of freedom and justice.
Therefore, any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on the freedom of Canadian and American Muslims. Any attack on Canada and the United States is an attack on thousands of mosques across North America. It is a duty of every Canadian and American Muslim to safeguard Canada and the USA. They must expose any person, Muslim OR non-Muslim, who would cause harm to fellow Canadians OR Americans. We, Canadian and American Muslims, must condemn and stand up against these attacks on Canada and the United States.
May Allah save Canada, the United States and the entire world from the evil of wrong doers. Ameen.
Signed by:
Prof. Imam Syed B. Soharwardy - Calgary
Allama Imam Ghalib Hussain Chishty - Calgary
Allama Imam Syed Mukhtar Naeemi Houston, USA
Allama Imam Muhammad Nasir Qadri - Montreal
Allama Imam Abdul Latif Nomani - Vancouver
Imam Hafiz Muhammad Zarif Naeemi - Airdrie
Imam Nizamuddin Sayed Qadri - Calgary
Imam Qazi Bashiruddin Qadri - Hamilton
Imam Osman Qazi - Toronto
Imam Saeed Ahmed Saifee - Toronto
Alimah Hafizah Sister Zaheera Tariq - Calgary
Imam Ayaz Khan Qadri - Calgary
Alimah Sister Fatimah Zohra - Toronto
Imam Shahid Bashir Lahori - Calgary
Imam Hafiz Intizar Ahmed Qadri - Montreal
Imam Sayed Sajid Qadri Calgary
Imam Arif Mahmood Naqshbandi - Calgary
Imam Muhammad Anees Siddiqui Calgary
Sister Shahana Kamil Mississauga
Mr. Mushtaq Khan - Mississauga
Additional endorsements
Imam Sayyid Ahmed Amiruddin Mississauga
Imam Salim Chishti - New Lebanon, New York, USA
Sister Khadijah Chmilovska Muslim Chaplain at the University of Calgary
Allama Imam Abdul Ghani Owaisy Houston, USA
Allama Imam Muhammad Amin Mujaddadi Live Oak, California, USA
Allama Imam Faiz Rasool Qadri Houston, USA
Allama Zubair Naqshbandi San Francisco, USA
Dr. Asad U Khan Winnipeg, Manitoba
For further questions, please contact Imam Syed Soharwardy at 403-831-6330 OR email, contact@islamicsupremecouncil.com. Thanks
Note: As we receive more endorsements from our honourable Imams, we will be updating the list on regular basis.
http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.com/iscc-fatwa-against%20terrorism.htm
gateley
(62,683 posts)eloquently than I could have. Thank you for speaking for so many of us.
nmbluesky
(2,561 posts)I'm glad that you underststood my post...
citizen blues
(570 posts)Smickey
(3,304 posts)your ideas are very clear and heartfelt. Keep up the good work.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)nmbluesky
(2,561 posts)Thank for understanding to ready my post last night. ... Well.. Some comment asked what is my first language! The first language is America sign language. I'm deaf
Thank you, I have to go for work today
Peace out..
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Response to nmbluesky (Original post)
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JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)porphyrian
(18,530 posts)Thank you for your understanding. I hope we can make those who protest understand the truth about the video before there is any further violence, to our embassies or to the protesters.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)And you are brave to put your thoughts into a language that is not always comfortable for you.
You've come a long way and I think everyone here gets your message loud and clear.