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Wed May 6, 2020, 08:15 PM

Best musical group of all time?

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1. New Order




























Everybody else.


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Reply Best musical group of all time? (Original post)
Goodheart May 2020 OP
SheltieLover May 2020 #1
Goodheart May 2020 #2
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Goodheart May 2020 #15
SheltieLover May 2020 #49
dware May 2020 #69
ooky May 2020 #57
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JHB May 2020 #4
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Lochloosa May 2020 #10
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Olafjoy May 2020 #28
Blue_true May 2020 #37
tavernier May 2020 #43
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Zing Zing Zingbah May 2020 #74
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marble falls May 2020 #18
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Mosby May 2020 #24
honest.abe May 2020 #26
meadowlander May 2020 #59
Mosby May 2020 #75
Solomon May 2020 #27
SidDithers May 2020 #40
happybird May 2020 #30
Lochloosa May 2020 #33
Demsrule86 May 2020 #34
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tavernier May 2020 #42
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ooky May 2020 #60
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:16 PM

1. Great ?

Pink Floyd!

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #1)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:17 PM

2. Pink Floyd certainly in the top 10



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Response to Goodheart (Reply #2)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:21 PM

8. 👍

I love their tunes.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #8)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:28 PM

15. Wish You Were Here

(which happens to be what I'm telling everybody with whom I'm videochatting these days).

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #15)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:05 PM

49. LOL

Good one! 👍

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #15)

Thu May 7, 2020, 08:31 AM

69. Wish you were here was a tribute to their first singer,

the late Syd Barrett.
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Response to Goodheart (Reply #2)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:33 PM

57. Mine too. nt

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #1)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:04 PM

48. +1

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:20 PM

3. favorite maybe, best? matter of opinion not fact :-) nt

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:20 PM

4. Flavius musica magnam, 310 B.C.

If not for them, we'd all be listening to Etruscan tunes. The horror!

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Response to JHB (Reply #4)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:21 PM

6. He played the synthesizer, right?

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #6)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:22 PM

11. Acoustic theremin...

...though it's easy to confuse the two.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:21 PM

5. Lounge? nt

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:21 PM

7. Beatles...for many reasons.

#2, #3, #4, etc... favorites are difficult to name (all genres).

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #7)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:22 PM

9. This is the correct answer

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #7)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:23 PM

12. Most important, most influential, most successful, yeah, sure....

And I love them. But they're not New Order!

(this is not a joke)

LOL

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #12)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:12 PM

32. I like them a lot, being a New Wave fan.... Buuuuuttttt.....

Beatles still beat 'em. And for New Wave, there are other groups I think are better.... Depeche Mode maybe... or my favorite... DEVO!!!!

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #7)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:02 PM

29. The got here on #7?

Should have been named first!

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #7)

Thu May 7, 2020, 10:31 AM

80. nah, they were successful through image and marketing, not musical ability

Maybe its because they broke up over a decade before I was born, but I listening to them I can't understand how they were ever successful.

Of that era I wouldn't rank them above The Beach Boys, who do not merit mention in the best band conversation themselves.

My contenders would be Rolling Stones, Rush, Queen, Pink Floyd, The Who, and possibly Tool

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:22 PM

10. Dead.

Then ABBA












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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #10)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:24 PM

13. Like he said,

And this is why...

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Response to The Figment (Reply #13)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:26 PM

14. Not my thing. :)

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Response to The Figment (Reply #13)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:12 PM

31. Nice. I'll save that for later.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #10)

Wed May 6, 2020, 10:17 PM

45. Objectively the only answer is the Beatles...

... but my soul like yours says DEAD!

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #10)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:35 PM

58. In my top 10.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:29 PM

16. QUEEN..

There will never be another Freddie Mercury in my lifetime.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #16)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:39 PM

20. Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freddy Mercury was the greatest voice of the 20th Century and I believe the 21st as well. I will miss him always,

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #16)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:46 PM

28. DITTO DITTO

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #16)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:33 PM

37. I was a very late convert to Queen, but I agree on all accounts.

Freddie Mercury was a musical genius.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #16)

Wed May 6, 2020, 10:13 PM

43. I agree that Freddie is the best lead singer of any musical group

but Beatles are #1, Queen #2

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #16)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:03 PM

47. Absolutely!

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #16)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:14 PM

51. What's this about Freddie ?

See below.....

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #16)

Thu May 7, 2020, 09:36 AM

74. Queen is my choice too.

I wish I could have gone to a Queen concert. I was probably about 12 when Freddie Mercury died.

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Response to Zing Zing Zingbah (Reply #74)

Thu May 7, 2020, 09:39 AM

76. Freddie Mercury died 4 days before my Grandfather did in 1991.

Queen is the one band I regret not seeing in concert back in the early 1980's when I had a chance.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #76)

Thu May 7, 2020, 09:44 AM

77. Yeah, IMO

I think Freddie Mercury is probably one of the greatest entertainers to have ever lived and the rest of the band were phenomenal musicians as well.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:33 PM

17. The Fab Four

Aka The 4 great guys with hair in their eyes.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:33 PM

18. The Beatles. Everyone else is a supporting act.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:34 PM

19. Beatles.

Not even close.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:39 PM

21. I love New Order!

Probably my absolute favorite and a bucket list show to see.

The Beatles are probably the greatest musical group ever though.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #21)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:41 PM

22. I finally got to see them live in January. Miami Beach.

Scratch one off my bucket list.

Every time I hear another New Order song I'm like "No, THIS one is my favorite." So my favorite right now is "Leave Me Alone" because it's the last one I heard.

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #22)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:43 PM

25. I honestly considered flying to Miami for it

Live in MI, was looking up air fair, but it was too busy a time for me.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:42 PM

23. Beatles. No further discussion necessary.

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Wed May 6, 2020, 08:44 PM

26. Led Zeppelin

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Response to honest.abe (Reply #26)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:36 PM

59. Surely. How is this even a question?

Top 5 singer, guitar player and multi-instrumentalists plus the greatest drummer of all time.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 08:46 PM

27. Sly and the Family Stone

Hands down.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #27)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:54 PM

40. Love Sly...

Great video from their set at the Harlem Cultural Festival in 1969.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4jynce

Darn, doesn't look like dailymotion videos embed.

My Lady
Sing a Simple Song
You Can Make it if You Try
Everyday People
Dance to the Music
Hey Music Lover into Higher (with Rose and Sly just going off)

Sid

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:04 PM

30. 1. Beatles

2. Pink Floyd

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:13 PM

33. Any band with Eric Clapton.

He made them all better.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:19 PM

34. I love the GooGoo Dolls.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #34)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:25 PM

35. Some unexpected responses here.


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Response to Goodheart (Reply #35)

Thu May 7, 2020, 11:25 AM

84. I always loved them...I still love Iris which even though it was overplayed, I still like it.

Broadway, come To Me (very romantic),Better Days,Slide, All that You are...I like music from all sorts of bands and singers...from Dylan to lumineers My ringtone at the moment is Time Will Tell by Gregory Alan Isakov...I like his music.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:29 PM

36. Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grapelli of the Hot Club (QHCF)

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:34 PM

38. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club





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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 09:44 PM

39. Led Zeppelin

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 10:06 PM

41. What, no King Crimson?

I might actually like Don Caballero better, but a bit obscure.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 10:11 PM

42. Beatles.

Best lead singer of any musical group- Freddie Mercury

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 10:15 PM

44. Buddy Holly

Lot of Beatles here but they and every other rock and roll band that followed were merely imitations.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 10:28 PM

46. Floyd

Zeppelin
Stones
Doors

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:06 PM

50. Beatles

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:17 PM

52. The Beatles were the best in originality.

They pushed their music so far that they transcended all genres and created their own custom genre: "Beatles music."

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:17 PM

53. The Doors

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #53)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:38 PM

60. Good selection. In my top 10.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:20 PM

54. There is only one answer.

 

Last edited Thu May 7, 2020, 12:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Yes, this is generational, but there is only one group that, literally, changed the world with their music.

True story..., I recently had some work done on my house (floor and baseboards). As the worker was leaving we stopped at the front door to chat a second. He was a bit younger than me, but I'm 68. Still, he was no spring chicken.

We were talking about music, and the music we had listened to growing up, and he said that he was riding in his car with his son and a song by Wings came on. He said his son looked at him and said, "Did you know that Paul McCartney was in another group before he was in Wings?" I think the term "gobsmacked" could apply to my reaction...

Like I said, it IS generational, but in a few years MOST young people will have no clue as to who the Beatles were, nor their effect on music, or the world. That is so PROFOUNDLY sad.

The Beatles were good musicians, but had the extreme good fortune of being in the right place, at the right time. They hit the American "6 transistor" radios in early 1963. (Anyone under 50 probably has no clue... They were our first small portable radios. The Ipods of the day.) They were already big in England when they hit Ed Sullivan in February 1964, after the assassination of JFK in the previous fall. There was a combination of tragedy and hope going on at a crucial period of time, which literally affected the direction of politics.

They were part of the English Invasion of musical groups, which gave us a lot of good music (and a lot of bad), by some trailblazing groups.

But the Beatles became more than just a musical group. They changed how rock music was recorded by layering tracks on tracks, and in the process created some of the most incredible albums ever recorded.

Their early stuff was to please recording companies, and (primarily) teenage girls. They were the FIRST true "BOY BAND". (John was already married, but they kept that quiet.) There was nothing prefabricated about them. They were exactly what you saw. The wrote and played their own music, with a few cover songs thrown in.

They started really going their own way with Rubber Soul and Revolver.

Then there was Sgt. Pepper. That album coincided with the "summer of love", 1967. By then they were so intertwined with the love and peace youth movement, they were not only musicians, they helped shape a whole generational philosophy.

Follow that with The White Album, Magical Mystery Tour, Abbey Road, Let It Be, and you have included some songs that will forever by played.

True, in the beginning the recording techniques were nothing like we are used to today, but they did help bring about a LOT of changes and improvements.

But their influence on a genre of music, AND a whole generation, which in turn affected the politics of the world, will NEVER be repeated. Sadly.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:28 PM

55. I have so many that's a tough question. I'll go with the Allman Bros.

Original version, of course. I'm from the South and loved those long instrumentals that Betts and Duane Allman played, like Liz Reed and Jessica. And Whippin Post, with Greg's soulful voice. It was good stuff.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:32 PM

56. Obviously

Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band
The Mothers of Invention
Riley Puckett and the Skillet Lickers

(Had wrong Puckett first time)

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2020, 11:53 PM

61. So subjective. The Beatles were definitely the most influential.

But The Clash are in the mix.

Never realized until this post most of my favorites are not really groups. But headliners. Of course I like hard core country and adore Elvis Costello. Although The Attractions/Imposters have always been around.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 12:06 AM

62. Kraftwerk

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #62)

Thu May 7, 2020, 08:11 AM

65. Good choice

Definitely influenced New Order.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

63. Beatles, hands down.

Many, many other great groups but nothing like the Beatles. Nothing.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 12:31 AM

64. I'll play the contrarian here and vote for the underdogs.

IMO, the best musical groups of our times were (and still are) the studio musicians behind most of the hit records we've all loved but who never get credit for making records into major hits:

For a quick review see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_musician#Studio_band

Examples:
* The Wrecking Crew (Los Angeles, 1960s1970s)
* The Nashville A-Team (Nashville, 1950s1960s)
* The Funk Brothers (Detroit, 1960s1970s)
* The Memphis Boys (Memphis, 1960s)
* The Section (Los Angeles, 1960s1970s).....and many more including some in New York.

A-list studio musicians are still behind many of the hits we hear today and not the well-known "band" musicians. They are my musical heroes.

KY.........

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 08:24 AM

66. Fleetwood Mac. nt

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 08:26 AM

67. The Clash

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 08:27 AM

68. Pink Floyd,

by far the best band, at least in my honest opinion.
Used to listen to them in Vietnam while getting high.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 08:39 AM

70. Not going to argue with anyone who says the Beatles,

but I gravitated more to Flloyd, Zeppelin, Yes, and Genesis.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 08:43 AM

71. Beatles because of sheer genius of innovation

Look, Im not dissing any of the remarkable groups but for its time, from a musicological and lyrical perspective there is no one even close. Ill give you one small example: the tune She Loves You was the first song written about love in the third person, to my knowledge. Some of a Lennons key changes were innovative and were the subject of discussion of serious musicians. It was musical genius. And dont get me wrong: I can see why the Beatles were not your thing: the Stones arguably produced better Albums at times (Beggars Banquet vs The White Album) but the innovations of the Beatles were stellar. In terms of technical ability, the best guitarist of the age was not in any of these groups with perhaps the exception of a Clapton, but Glenn Campbell was undoubtedly the most gifted. Yes I know. Im wrong.

What do you want? Im 67 and lived through it.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #71)

Thu May 7, 2020, 09:29 AM

72. Actually, I love the Beatles

Lived through them. They were more than a band; they were a societal revolution.

And, of course, I agree that they're the greatest band of all time... for their innovation, as you say, and mostly for their impact and influence.

But "greatest" is not the title of the thread. It's "best", and as far as I'm concerned the best music is that which one enjoys the most.... and, my god, who couldn't love THIS?:

Besides, New Order were pioneers and innovators in their own right, combining synthesized and bass in an age that had been dominated by pop.... while also dominating the club scene.



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Response to Goodheart (Reply #72)

Thu May 7, 2020, 09:33 AM

73. Point taken...and it's certainly a matter of taste

And I for one as an individual Who grew up in a house of musicians and musicologists, understand the difference among: great tunes, great music, giftedness, musicality, catchy music, genius of performance, and all the rest.

Great thread....thanks!

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 09:53 AM

78. Mouse Rat



I always wondered how Andy could afford a Taylor guitar given that he lived in a pit.
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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 10:15 AM

79. Depeche Mode, for me, is my personal favorite of all time....

1. Depeche Mode
2. Nine Inch Nails
3. U2
4. R.E.M.
5. Beastie Boys

#s 2 - 5 will change, depending on my mood,but #1 is, and always will be, Depeche Mode.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 10:32 AM

81. Ha!

 

I love New Order. When I clicked on the post I expected one of the usual answers!

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Response to HarlanPepper (Reply #81)

Thu May 7, 2020, 11:13 AM

83. I missed out on them in the 80's because

let's face it... I didn't do a lot of clubs and bars or nightlife...

Just happened to be driving through D.C. in about 2002 or so and heard "Regret" on a progressive station... I thought it was very catchy so when I went home I looked them up... What a body of work! They're brilliant.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 10:36 AM

82. The Mars Volta. (it's hard to be objective about music) n/t

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 11:32 AM

85. Cosmic Tribe

Full disclosure: these are my kids. And they're not famous, but to me, they're the greatest musical act of all time.

In a parallel world, it's the Beatles all the way. I'm pretty fond of the Cars, the Moody Blues, and Pink Floyd as well.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 11:45 AM

86. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers


Hands down.

What are the odds that the one of the greatest of all time...

Keyboard player - Benmont Tench III
Guitar Player -Mike Campbell
Songwriter- Tom Petty

..got together and formed a band? Well, 45 years later and here we are...

Benmont MIGHT be the greatest piano player I ever heard, but Mike Campbell IS the greatest guitar player and Tom Petty IS the greatest song-writer who ever lived.

I'll have words with anyone who says different



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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 11:53 AM

87. The Archies were great, but greatly underrated.

Man, that Veronica was somethin' else. I never could understand how a spoiled little rich white girl learned to sing with all the power, sass, and style of the best Soul vocalists of the day.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Thu May 7, 2020, 02:44 PM

88. Locking

This was alerted on for being posted in the wrong forum - belongs in the Lounge - please repost there, its a fun topic.

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