Holy crap! CNN dishonest reporting on polls

[ProSense]

Via Daily Kos:

CNN declares OH close and FL and VA a tie!

I rarely post here, but I had to vent when I came a cross this douzy by CNN:

CNN Dishonesty

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/14/1131644/-CNN-declares-OH-close-and-FL-and-VA-a-tie

Here's CNN: Ohio trending for Obama; Florida, Virginia tied
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/13/ohio-trending-for-obama-florida-virginia-tied


Obama soars in Ohio/Florida Virginia brand new NBC/Marist polls
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021338134

NBC/WSJ/Marist: Obama 50, Romney 43, (OH), Obama 49, Romney 44, (FL), Obama 49, Romney 44 (VA)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/13/1131507/-NBC-WSJ-Marist-Obama-50-Romney-43-OH-Obama-49-Romney-44-FL-Obama-Romney-VA

With numbers like this, can Romney retroactively un-nominate himself?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/13/1131523/-With-numbers-like-this-can-Romney-retroactively-un-nominate-himself


Watch the polls.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021336015

[left on green only]

1. "With numbers like this, can Romney retroactively un-nominate himself?"

The next best thing might be if he decides to cede himself at the voting polls. Perhaps he will do that if he his placed under retroactive obligation from his own party to pay back all of the costs of running a miserably failed campaign.

[Doctor Jack]

2. I read a story tonight about Obama being up by 5 in Colorado

They described the race there as "tied". I wonder how far up obama has to be before this race is no longer "tied". 20 points?

[Drunken Irishman]

3. Chances are, they average the polls to come to that conclusion...

If that's what they're doing, and there isn't really anything dishonest about it, the results would be:

Ohio: Obama +4.2
Virginia: Obama +.4
Florida: Obama +1.3

Even then, Obama has a slight lead in FL and I guess you could say Virginia is a statistical tie.

[ProSense]

5. What?

The report is about the NBC Marist polls.

It says nothing about averaging polls.

Stop excusing dishonesty.

[Drunken Irishman]

9. You got me. I secretly work for CNN.

[ProSense]

10. No, but

given the blatantly dishonest reporting, why try to excuse it?

I mean, there is nothing in that report showing FL and VA tied. Here's the text.

Voters in both Florida and Virginia split 49% for Obama and 44% for Romney, a five point difference within the poll's sampling error of 3.1.

WTF?

[Drunken Irishman]

12. I excused it because I didn't realize they were specifically talking about just those polls

I didn't click the link because I was lazy.

[berni_mccoy]

4. CNN: 49-44! It's a TIE

Of course, if the numbers were switched, it would be "Romney takes a significant lead!!!"

[ProSense]

6. Worse

These are likely voter results, which means that these are significant differences.

The margin among registered voters also increased

OH - Obama 50, Romney 41
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/florida_poll_september.pdf

FL - Obama 50, Romney 42
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/florida_poll_september.pdf

VA - Obama 49, Romney 42
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/virginia_poll_september.pdf

[Spitfire of ATJ]

13. "likely voter" means they toss out a number of responses by self identified Democrats,...

....because "everyone" knows Democrats don't show up to vote.

[Cha]

7. Tweet the Idiots at cnn and let them know

they're being held Accountable for their "horse race" LIES.

[rocktivity]

8. These pollsters have more credibility than CNN's

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125194638


rockivity

[ProSense]

11. It was a CNN report on NBC-Marist polls. n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

14. "48% to 44%"?

Where's the other 8%?

Do they REALLY expect us to believe 8% are "undecided"?

Someone needs to do a comedy skit of one of these people trying to order a pizza.

[ProSense]

15. It's 49 to 44, and 5 points is not tied. n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

16. I went to the CNN link in the article for those numbers.

After this whole screw up by Mitt we will see the pollsters have to admit Obama has over 50%.