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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:07 AM Sep 2012

Mitt Romney: Barack Obama may lie in debates

Mitt Romney says in an interview that his campaign will “come into focus” with the debates and that he’s preparing for President Barack Obama to “say things that aren’t true” during the three upcoming faceoffs next month.
“This is a campaign which I think will come into focus as the debates occur,” Romney said, according to a transcript released by ABC of Romney’s sitdown with Good Morning America’s George Stephanopoulos. “The president got a bit of a bump after his convention. I got a bit of a bump after ours. It’s going to go back and forth.”

The debates, including the vice presidential debate, he said, could “well be a decisive point in the campaign,” and he added that while he wouldn’t try to predict the outcome, he thought they would be “revealing one way or another.”
Romney also suggested that Obama might be untruthful during the debates.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81212.html



This guy is unbelievable. Truly.

"If you are caught stealing, you grab the guy who caught you and yell THIEF!" - Willard's philosophy
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Mitt Romney: Barack Obama may lie in debates (Original Post) apples and oranges Sep 2012 OP
And the Mormon bishop never lies. jsr Sep 2012 #1
He's so amateurish that he overtly gives away his own strategy BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #2
I keep thinking, Nov 6 can't come soon enough apples and oranges Sep 2012 #5
Classic projection! ananda Sep 2012 #3
"accuse your opponent of doing what you do" Avalux Sep 2012 #4
The Mormon Way 33Greeper Sep 2012 #6
Mitt perjures up another one C_U_L8R Sep 2012 #7
OMG! That made me LOL - closeupready Sep 2012 #25
In other news, Mitt Romney WILL lie in debates gollygee Sep 2012 #8
Projection much, Mitt? SalviaBlue Sep 2012 #9
Why should anyone believe anything Romney says? porphyrian Sep 2012 #10
Yes, Mitt. You and the President both got a bump after your conventions. Arkansas Granny Sep 2012 #11
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #27
Can't wait to see the factcheck analysis after the debate nobodyspecial Sep 2012 #12
Two thoughts ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #29
For Mitt, however, there's no "may" in there. He's made lies the centerpiece of his campaign. JHB Sep 2012 #13
personally, I am still shaking my head at middle class is between 200K and 250K hollysmom Sep 2012 #14
i think this is true PowerToThePeople Sep 2012 #18
I looked up the charts - nothing middle about 250K hollysmom Sep 2012 #23
What planet is he from? Kolob renate Sep 2012 #28
+1! uponit7771 Sep 2012 #32
Sounds like he's already making excuses for why Obama aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #15
Aaaaaaaaaand....boom goes the dynamite! That's it, exactly. nt MADem Sep 2012 #34
uh, mitt onethatcares Sep 2012 #16
Out of the four candidates who will be debating, reflection Sep 2012 #17
I agree. At some point in the debates, Obama will likely say something along the lines of beac Sep 2012 #19
Once again blaming the other guy for things you plan to do marlakay Sep 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #21
"The president got a bit of a bump after his convention. I got a bit of a bump after ours." Lex Sep 2012 #22
Romney got a thud after his convention. Kalidurga Sep 2012 #37
Willard knows all about lying and cheating - on taxes, closeupready Sep 2012 #24
That reminds me so much of a joke about RWers. lpbk2713 Sep 2012 #26
Your joke doesn't work if Politicalboi Sep 2012 #36
Rmoney lies as easily as he breathes. But he's lying for the lord, so that's ok. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #30
Lucy: Charlie Brown may try to pull the football out of the way before I can kick it. Curtland1015 Sep 2012 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #33
I'm curious mick063 Sep 2012 #35
He's trying to pre-blind his remaining rube supporters. gulliver Sep 2012 #38

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
5. I keep thinking, Nov 6 can't come soon enough
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:13 AM
Sep 2012

but still, I'm alarmed by the possibility that he might somehow be declared the winner!

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. "accuse your opponent of doing what you do"
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:12 AM
Sep 2012

That's the GOP/Rove guiding principle, and knowing that, this stupid ass comment by Romney isn't a surprise at all. I think Romney's going to find out quickly though, he's going to have a very tough time convincing enough people it's true to help him.

C_U_L8R

(44,986 posts)
7. Mitt perjures up another one
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:15 AM
Sep 2012

I bet Mitt his ill-gained fortune that
he cannot prove one single "not true"
thing President Obama has ever said.

What a truly awful deceitful person Mitt is.

Arkansas Granny

(31,506 posts)
11. Yes, Mitt. You and the President both got a bump after your conventions.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:19 AM
Sep 2012

President Obama has kept his. Yours, not so much.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
12. Can't wait to see the factcheck analysis after the debate
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:23 AM
Sep 2012

I predict Romney will be the one telling the most lies.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
29. Two thoughts ...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:59 AM
Sep 2012

1) the romney supporters will do what they always do ... ignore the fact-checkers because ... well ... they're checking facts!

2) the media will do the "they both do it" thing again. So expect the media to declare a President Obama statement of: "A canine is a dog" as false and then equate it to the romney statement, "A cat is a canine."

And failing that, I expect the media to parse President Obama's statements in order to make false a point that President Obama wasn't making. (See: CNN's fact-check of President Obama's 4.5 million jobs created statement).

JHB

(37,154 posts)
13. For Mitt, however, there's no "may" in there. He's made lies the centerpiece of his campaign.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:25 AM
Sep 2012

His entire "you built that" theme is based on the surgical extraction of one sentence from it's (very obvious) context. You can't include any of the words before or after and still maintain what Romney claims.

And, of course, that's just one lie to confirm another lie: that the President is "anticapitalist" in any way.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
14. personally, I am still shaking my head at middle class is between 200K and 250K
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:33 AM
Sep 2012

what planet is this man from, he has no clue.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
23. I looked up the charts - nothing middle about 250K
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:42 AM
Sep 2012

2010 census data -
180K and up is the top 5%. that has nothing to do with the middle

Let's say you just want to see the middle 2/5 to 4/5 that would be from 20K to 105 K

oddly enough Obama thinks up to 250K is middle class.

I have a lot of friends and relatives who think they are middle class and don't earn near that, they think that is pretty damn rich.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
17. Out of the four candidates who will be debating,
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sep 2012

I think we can assume Ryan will be the one telling the biggest fish stories. He is a remarkably good liar.

beac

(9,992 posts)
19. I agree. At some point in the debates, Obama will likely say something along the lines of
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:10 AM
Sep 2012
"I respect Governor Romney." That will be a white LIE.

Our president will be enough of a diplomat not to share his real opinion of Mittens.

Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Lex

(34,108 posts)
22. "The president got a bit of a bump after his convention. I got a bit of a bump after ours."
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:19 AM
Sep 2012

This statement is a lie. He got practically no bump and Obama got a discernible one.

He lies while saying our President might be untruthful during the debates.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
37. Romney got a thud after his convention.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:09 PM
Sep 2012

Personally I don't even think it was a light tap in the polls. I think it was just one of the daily anomalies that happen from time to time. I think if we graph the last couple of months we won't really find even a tap for those days. Even if Romney did get a slight bump, he is implying that Obama only got a slight bump as well even though it is apparent that Obama's bump wasn't a daily anomaly at all and is still holding.

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
26. That reminds me so much of a joke about RWers.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:49 AM
Sep 2012




A CEO, a tea party member, and a union worker are all sitting at a table when a plate with a dozen cookies arrives. Before anyone else can make a move, the CEO reaches out to rake in eleven of the cookies. When the other two look at him in surprise, the CEO locks eyes with the tea party member. “You better watch him,” the executive says with a nod toward the union worker. “He wants a piece of your cookie.”


Point your fingers much Mittens?





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mick063

(2,424 posts)
35. I'm curious
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:00 PM
Sep 2012

How can you prove a "lie" without fact checkers?

Another blunder by Mitt. The last thing he wants is to provoke fact checks.

What a mish mash of messages he delivers.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
38. He's trying to pre-blind his remaining rube supporters.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sep 2012

It's like the con man talking to the sweet old lady. "Give me another check and I'll invest it for you. And remember, don't believe what your family says about me. They say things that aren't true."

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