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Mon May 11, 2020, 05:55 PM

What in the world are these Trump people so mad about all the time?

We live in NC.

I am sure everyone has seen the photos of those armed rednecks in Raleigh; and read about the KKK-like armed group led by a law enforcement officer to an African American household. (I write KKK-like because their robes hadn't been dry cleaned, or something. Anyway, they weren't wearing them)

What are these folks so angry about? Why do they hate liberals? We have been voting in their best interests for decades.

I know: racism (I am a Southerner, I get that), the NRA, and FOX news....but, there has to be something deeper going on here.

What is making these guys feel so disenfranchised?

Why is Trump always so mad? Every time you see him, he is pounding the podium, angry, yelling in that weird lisp, the anger tweets--- If I had inherited his wealth, at his age, I would be sitting in my condo thinking about my next museum tour of the world.

What is wrong with them?

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Reply What in the world are these Trump people so mad about all the time? (Original post)
essme May 2020 OP
muntrv May 2020 #1
Wednesdays May 2020 #10
smb May 2020 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #3
elleng May 2020 #8
leftieNanner May 2020 #9
Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #14
dameatball May 2020 #16
Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #21
llmart May 2020 #28
TheBlackAdder May 2020 #37
GriffenRamsey May 2020 #4
Aristus May 2020 #5
Tipperary May 2020 #47
Aristus May 2020 #48
Maru Kitteh May 2020 #6
Celerity May 2020 #29
SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #44
C_U_L8R May 2020 #7
Duppers May 2020 #45
procon May 2020 #11
Patterson May 2020 #24
Caliman73 May 2020 #12
Ilsa May 2020 #17
ProfessorGAC May 2020 #19
meadowlander May 2020 #13
LuckyCharms May 2020 #15
Warpy May 2020 #18
Laelth May 2020 #20
flying rabbit May 2020 #25
Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #22
Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #23
Runningdawg May 2020 #26
Skittles May 2020 #27
Celerity May 2020 #30
Skittles May 2020 #31
Celerity May 2020 #33
Skittles May 2020 #35
Stinky The Clown May 2020 #32
highplainsdem May 2020 #34
Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #39
gembaby1 May 2020 #36
Midnight Writer May 2020 #38
VOX May 2020 #40
struggle4progress May 2020 #41
leftyladyfrommo May 2020 #42
JHB May 2020 #43
NameAlreadyTaken May 2020 #46
Lucinda May 2020 #49

Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 05:57 PM

1. The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments?

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Response to muntrv (Reply #1)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:19 PM

10. And to some extent, the 19th Amendment. nt

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:04 PM

2. Their Diapers Need Changing? nt

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:04 PM

3. Anger feels good. Some people like to wallow in their perceived victimhood

because the anger it creates is exciting; it gets the adrenaline running. The actual target of the anger is less important than the enjoyment of the anger, so the target can be any "other" that the aggrieved person feels is persecuting him. This sense of victimhood arises from the fact that the "others" are asserting the same rights as the angry white guy, and, as the saying goes, if you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression. So the "oppressed" people are angry because they see their white male privilege being eroded for the benefit of the non-white and non-male. And they enjoy being angry. Trump is feeding that anger whether he feels it personally or not (and he probably does) because it is politically advantageous to him.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:13 PM

8. Thanks;

Good explanation, Ocelot.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:19 PM

9. Great Explanation

I was trying to formulate my thoughts, and then you provided them all for me!

Well done!

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:29 PM

14. Yep, I witnessed factory coworkers feeding off...

... the anger of Rush Limbaugh back in the 80's during lunch breaks (when I first heard him in the radio).

It was like "The Jerry Springer Show" to them, I think. My impression at the time was that they didn't care about the ideas so much, but the right-wing ideas probably seeped into their brains too after awhile.

Lots of people seem to enjoy getting worked-up about football rivalries and all kinds of silly things.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #14)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:35 PM

16. Bingo. Hundreds of thousands of radios at worksites and in vehicles for several decades.

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Response to dameatball (Reply #16)

Mon May 11, 2020, 07:04 PM

21. Oh, I just remembered something else from coworkers.

This was years later at another job, and another factory.

I was working 13-hour night-shifts when 9/11 happened, ready to go to bed when I decided to turn on the TV. Saw the first Trade Center building on fire, and then the plane that hit the second one. Yadda, yadda, yadda... I never went to bed that day.

Showed up at work despite no sleep, still very angry about the day's events. To my surprise, almost nobody else seemed very upset! They acted more "excited" by it, like it was an interesting change in their lives. And everything was self-absorbed too, like, "You should buy gasoline now because the prices just keep going up! I filled up MY car already!"

By the time of my first break that night, Bill O'Reilly was on the TV (some employees always kept it on Fox News).

He was ranting about it, of course, and blaming Bill Clinton for what happened.

Anyway, what I found most interesting was that my coworkers suddenly acted angry about the day's events too! It was like they needed to see that kind of anger, and then they parroted it!

For me, my anger subsided substantially AFTER seeing O'Reilly. That's when I was thinking, "Okay, we all need to respond to this logically."

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:08 PM

28. That is the best explanation I have ever read.

Absolutely spot on. They are the true class of people who have a sense of entitlement, not the people they are talking about when they talk about entitlements. They have been raised to believe that they are entitled to have the biggest slice of the pie just because they are white and male.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:56 PM

37. Yep. FOX News' constant Red ALERT and tones signal endorphines and give viewers a 'Runner's High'

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It becomes addictive to always be angry, and that constant rage starts to rewire the brain.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:05 PM

4. I listen to lots of RW radio and roll over to FOX news occasionally.

 

They've been eating a steady diet of grievance and civil war for two years.

I also have Bernie supporters in my facebook feeds. It is remarkable how they feed off each other.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:07 PM

5. Equality under the law. It's as simple as that.

Call them rednecks. Call them hillbillies. Call them swamp-swimmers, yahoos, rubes, and cousin-fuckers; they'll shrug it off. Hell, they may even adopt those epithets as badges of pride.

Take away their free workforce, and they go berserk.

Tell them that their former slaves now enjoy equality under the law, and they go murderously berserk...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #5)

Tue May 12, 2020, 07:13 PM

47. I know you despise the south, but these racists and idiots are everywhere. Face that fact.

 

Checked out CA lately? Michigan? Minnesota? Massachusetts? These people are all over the Midwest, and even in the northwest. One of the most racist places I ever lived was upstate NY. You can find them in every damn state in this country. I could continue, but I know it makes no difference. Many of us have pointed this out, but people just love to hate on the south. Putting it all on one region is essentially burying your head in the sand. They are everyfuckingwhere.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #47)

Tue May 12, 2020, 09:49 PM

48. I was born and raised in the South.

But yeah, I have a love-hate relationship with the South.

I hate the fact that I was raised on the myth of Robert E. Lee as the gentle, grandfatherly general who hated slavery but loved Virginia.

I hate the fact that I was nearly an adult before I realized that the defenders of the Alamo, legends of San Antonio, my hometown, weren't fighting for freedom; they were fighting to expand slavery into the West.

And I hate the fact that the South is a solid, unbroken band of red.

I will count the day that Texas, my home state, turns blue as one of the happiest in my life.

I have a brand-new colleague, an ultra-liberal, staunch advocate for the homeless, who was born and raised in South Carolina. He moved to the Northwest in order to escape, well, South Carolina. We've spent a lot of time bonding over our sad affection for the troubled region of our birth.

For all of the racist places in this racist country of ours, the South is still the place where that racism underwent the thickest, most-nearly impenetrable institutionalization.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:10 PM

6. Bein' born.

Wyatt Earp:
What makes a man like Ringo, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?

Doc Holliday:
A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of himself. And he can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.

Wyatt Earp:
What does he want?

Doc Holliday:
Revenge.

Wyatt Earp:
For what?

Doc Holliday:
Bein' born.

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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #6)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:17 PM

29. +100000

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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #6)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:02 AM

44. That's tRump. Especially the revenge part.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:11 PM

7. They're angry because they failed at life.

They think they deserve it all but they made all the wrong choices. And it's your fault.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #7)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:20 PM

45. THIS ⬆⬆

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:21 PM

11. Anger and rage is usually a byproduct of fear.

Find out what they fear the most, what do most of these groups have in common at the most basic level of survival?

Answer that and you'll have both the problem and the path to a solution.

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Response to procon (Reply #11)

Mon May 11, 2020, 07:30 PM

24. Does fear come from ignorance?

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:22 PM

12. They are being told that they have been cheated.

Specifically by government getting in the way of their right to their rightful place in society. A bunch of elitist Liberals have tipped the playing field in favor of a bunch of weak women, lazy Black people, illegals (Mexican and Central Americans), and people with "strange lifestyles". You see, back then you didn't need a stinkin colleg degree to get a good job. You could raise kids with one job and your wife staying in the kitchen where she belongs. You could live in a decent (read segregated) neighborhood and own your house. Now because of welfare, affirmative action, and regulations; the economy is all messed up and you can't make ends meet.


So they are told all of the valid problems (no money, rising prices, lack of mobility and opportunity) but instead of talking about the real reasons (corporate welfare, greed, corruption, etc...) they are told it is "liberal policies" that are to blame.

It is easier to believe that people who are "not worthy" are being propped up in a conspiracy, than it is to accept that the wealthiest people and corporations (that you work for, buy your food and drink from, buy your car from, etc...) are rigging the system for their benefit and leaving you to fight with Black and Brown people for the scraps.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #12)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:41 PM

17. I think I've seen this.

A former die-hard democrat raised a son who dropped out of college, even though they could afford to send him. After that, she was claiming the deck was stacked against him. The ACA, immigrants, everything that had nothing to do with the truth just propaganda.

She's been absent since Lysol Von Syphilis committed treason regarding Ukraine, etc.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #12)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:42 PM

19. Adding In

The american dream they had envisioned has been taken away by the very people they voted for & work for.
The nice home, car every 4 years, vacations, and comfortable enough retirement to not fearing that age...
Because they can't bring themselves to admit they got single-issue suckered, they look for other excuses. It's deep state, it's welfare, it's food stamps, it's immigrants...
They voted to destroy their own future and now look for scapegoats.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:28 PM

13. It's easier to blame other people than look at yourself.

Why can't you get laid? There must be something wrong with women. It's not that you're self-involved and a bit lazy and don't smell great.

Why can't you get a good job? Someone else must be stealing it from you. It's not that you fucked around in high school or aren't that bright academically or are inflexible about where you live or are insubordinate to your bosses or lack customer service skills.

Why can't you get good health care? The liberals keep trying to socialise it. Not you can't be bothered to learn how it all works so you can vote for someone whose position actually reflects your interest.

And on and on.

Combine poor critical thinking skills with a lack of introspection and you get enraged entitlement.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:29 PM

15. They hate themselves.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:41 PM

18. Cognitive dissonance, most likely

When everything you see and hear tells you what you most truly want to keep believing in is dead wrong, that's what happens and it can be very painful.

As for Big Dummy and "his" money, consider that the Russian mob has him by the short hairs. If he strays and they expose him, he's going to be sitting in prison for the rest of his worthless life for tax fraud, if nothing else.

Besides, he doesn't do museums. Not only are they for sissies, people are looking at all that stuff on the walls, not at him like they should be.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 06:43 PM

20. They're all guys. Assume that is the source of their anger. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #20)

Mon May 11, 2020, 07:44 PM

25. Plenty of hateful women on that side of the fence. nt

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 07:13 PM

22. Hatred.

That's what motivates them.

Pure, ugly, unabated hate. It fills their little black hearts and fuels their daily dithering. It has consumed them and they know nothing else. Anyone who doesn't exude the hatred they do, doesn't/can't get it. Those of us who are normal, cannot conceive of this kind of dark murderous emotion.

As a Catholic child, I was taught that hatred was too strong an emotion for mankind to handle, and thus no one should ever hate anyone. It was an all-consuming disease that destroyed the human spirit, snuffed out the soul. "Never say you hate some one." I believed that it was a mortal sin to hate anyone. As I grew older, I could see, first hand, the damage that hate visited upon people. It warped them.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 07:15 PM

23. Hatred.

That's what motivates them.

Pure, ugly, unabated hate. It fills their little black hearts and fuels their daily dithering. It has consumed them and they know nothing else. Anyone who doesn't exude the hatred they do, doesn't/can't get it. Those of us who are normal, cannot conceive of this kind of dark murderous emotion.

As a Catholic child, I was taught that hatred was too strong an emotion for mankind to handle, and thus no one should ever hate anyone. It was an all-consuming disease that destroyed the human spirit, snuffed out the soul. "Never say you hate some one." I believed that it was a mortal sin to hate anyone. As I grew older, I could see, first hand, the damage that hate visited upon people. It warped them. It robbed them of their humanity and made them slaves to its depravity.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:02 PM

26. They are quickly becoming a minority and feel Karma breathing down their scrawny necks.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:05 PM

27. the world is changing and it is leaving those dipshits behind

they just cannot adapt to a world that does not revolve around THEM

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Response to Skittles (Reply #27)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:18 PM

30. +100000

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Response to Celerity (Reply #30)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:21 PM

31. it is EXACTLY what the "Again" in MAGA refers to

they liked it better when a bigger piece of the pie was always there for the taking

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Response to Skittles (Reply #31)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:28 PM

33. If they would just (they NEVER will) be decent human beings, they would realise that there is enough

pie for everyone. Instead they have let their hatred, fear, and ignorance drive them right into the arms of the universal oppressors at the top of the economic pyramid. We all lose.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #33)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:44 PM

35. exactly

and that when all people are treated fairly, the world is a better place for all

they don't understand this and they believe in a party that exploits their fears

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:23 PM

32. Small penises

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:32 PM

34. Ever listen to RW talk radio? It's nonstop grievance-mongering, and in many markets

those shows are available 24/7.

Grievances and anger, with a lot of fear involving conspiracy theories mixed in.

Nonstop triggering of everything bad in human nature. Nonstop appeals to the lowest common denominator.

Fox News is only the tip of that toxic iceberg.

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #34)

Mon May 11, 2020, 09:09 PM

39. Yep, and there's local ones too...

... who don't get as much national attention.

Bill Cunningham on WLW (Cincinnati) is the worst that I've yet heard. Lying little weasel!

If his Cunningham ancestors were anything like him, it's no wonder that my paternal Montgomery ancestors feuded with and killed them!

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 08:51 PM

36. Maybe because...

They’re never right about anything.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Mon May 11, 2020, 09:02 PM

38. In 2016, the GOP won the White House, the House of Representatives, and the Senate (SCOTUS)

and they were madder than wet hens.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 01:00 AM

40. Republicans have been telling "low info voters" for decades that "commie" Democrats are the enemy.

And once Reagan overturned the fairness doctrine, they got a dedicated “news” network that was/is GOP Pravda. Democrats have been long-term, systematically demonized as “communists,” “socialists,” “godless,” “un-American,” etc.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 04:01 AM

41. "Cuz we blow -- hard"

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Response to essme (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 05:48 AM

42. Breaks the monotony.

They get to dress up abd march around abd be indignant. Gives them something to do. They can have meetings and pretend they are a big deal.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:00 AM

43. Continuous axe-grinding is highly addictive, powerfully hallucinogenic...

...and very, very lucrative for its purveyors.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 06:28 PM

46. They believe they are entitled to America, and

that someone (or multiple groups) is/are trying to take America away from them. It's territorialism. Anyone who is unlike them is the enemy.

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Response to essme (Original post)

Tue May 12, 2020, 10:33 PM

49. They have been fed lies for 20+ years by Limbaugh, Alex Jones etc

and because The Fairness Doctrine was scrapped and things went unchallenged. People tend to believe what they hear on the tv or radio, especially once they shut out other sources. So they really believe all that crap they spew.

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