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Fri May 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

This is all that I needed to make me comfortable with Joe

Biden pledges not to pardon Trump
[link:https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/15/joe-biden-pledges-not-to-pardon-trump-260147|

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Reply This is all that I needed to make me comfortable with Joe (Original post)
Under The Radar May 2020 OP
doc03 May 2020 #1
HAB911 May 2020 #2
gibraltar72 May 2020 #3
Under The Radar May 2020 #5
jaxexpat May 2020 #10
SoonerPride May 2020 #6
tecelote May 2020 #14
House of Roberts May 2020 #4
Catch2.2 May 2020 #7
Under The Radar May 2020 #16
Catch2.2 May 2020 #17
abqtommy May 2020 #8
Bettie May 2020 #9
warmfeet May 2020 #11
titanicdave May 2020 #12
colorado_ufo May 2020 #13
Hortensis May 2020 #15
Cha May 2020 #18
Skittles May 2020 #19
Under The Radar May 2020 #20
Skittles May 2020 #21
Under The Radar May 2020 #22
Iggo May 2020 #23

Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 10:42 AM

1. Maybe if the Bush Klan was held accountable for their lies that got us

in the Iraq war we wouldn't have Trump now.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #1)

Fri May 15, 2020, 10:46 AM

2. ++++

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Response to doc03 (Reply #1)

Fri May 15, 2020, 10:48 AM

3. Yepp I fault Obama for not exposing the Republican party on that.

They would have been dead for 20 years if we would have looked in the rearview mirror just a little bit.

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Response to gibraltar72 (Reply #3)

Fri May 15, 2020, 11:39 AM

5. That is all on Nancy who announced that she wouldn't impeach

....Bush when the Democrats took the House in 2006

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Response to Under The Radar (Reply #5)

Fri May 15, 2020, 12:56 PM

10. By 2006 the MSM had decided that we'd moved on.

The long shot horse race for 2008 was already their current fad focus. Nancy said she wouldn't impeach because she didn't want to say she COULDN'T impeach. The general public would have been outraged that she was trying to kill the "job creator". Remember, it wasn't until 2007-08 that the reality of w's recession was perceived by most people.
I was disappointed then as well but I knew that the spin machines wouldn't be able to focus on unpopular facts. They were busy trying to choose the candidates they would lionize or condemn. Their self-importance still amazes me, even today.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #1)

Fri May 15, 2020, 12:03 PM

6. +1,000,000

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Response to doc03 (Reply #1)

Fri May 15, 2020, 01:17 PM

14. Yup. We let them get away with it.

Then, we're surprised they do it again.

They all have to be held accountable.

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 11:10 AM

4. All the pardoning will take place in the lame duck time

after the election.

If William Barr tells Trump who to pardon, as he did for Bush 41, then tells him to resign so Pence can pardon him, it'll all be a done deal.

We'll have to depend on state prosecutions to bring Trump down.

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 12:39 PM

7. Agreed!

This helps a lot! I still am nervous that we will hear the "It's time for the nation to come together and heal" crap. This criminal needs to be held accountable for his crimes so that at the very least, it doesn't happen again!

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Response to Catch2.2 (Reply #7)

Fri May 15, 2020, 02:14 PM

16. Correct! In addition to prosecuting Trump & Co. ...

...there must be legislation that strengthens democracy against the possibility of tyrannical leaders, ensure that the justice department is truly independent, and the judicial branch fairly balanced.

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Response to Under The Radar (Reply #16)

Fri May 15, 2020, 02:54 PM

17. Amen!

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 12:46 PM

8. That works. It also works that Joe has never advised anyone to drink/inject bleach...

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 12:48 PM

9. That was a welcome surprise for me as well

good that he said it.

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 12:58 PM

11. K & R

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 01:09 PM

12. .....The Last Word.....

....with Lawrence O'Donnell was amazing last night......especially the fact that Vice President Biden invited Stacie Abrams onto the show...I was totally impressed with both of them......so refreshing from #45 and his blathering.....

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Response to titanicdave (Reply #12)

Fri May 15, 2020, 01:12 PM

13. Stacie was my choice for VP from day one.

She has the brains, fire, determination, and courage to stand up to anything. She would be a perfect counterpoint to Joe's layback style. Her energy would be the fuel that Joe's campaign needs. She would be the wind at his back.

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 01:36 PM

15. :) I appreciated that, but it's an easy pledge, followed by:

'ďItís hands-off completely. Look, the attorney general of the United States is not the presidentís lawyer.'

Not under Democratic presidents for sure. Once confirmed by the senate after being nominated by the president, the AG will be expected to represent the people. The senate's the kicker, though.

Let's just hope Biden's broadly reassuring coattails will help create a Democratic majority in the senate so corrupt McConnell and gang aren't still controlling the senate and we don't have to name someone they'll let through. There are a lot of criminals in that gang, and whoever that was would be chosen to protect them amap.

The party with the power charts the future.

Btw, remembering Nixon, Nixon had just been resoundingly reelected by "the people" in a 49-state sweep, who didn't want him in prison, and his pardoner, Ford, was a Republican. Very different situation than Biden would face.

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 05:56 PM

18. KR!

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:00 PM

19. sorry, was it expected he would do that?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #19)

Fri May 15, 2020, 08:33 PM

20. To go after a previous administration for crimes that they commit?

Biden was part of an admin that let Bush and Cheney off the hook for lying our way into 2 never ending wars and the war crimes associated with them. Nancy states that impeachment was off the table when she became speaker in 2006.
My fear has been that Trump and Co. will walk free without punishment for their crimes.
As of now, Joe said that he isnít going to pardon Trump. Not a full throated answer, but it is in the right direction.

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Response to Under The Radar (Reply #20)

Fri May 15, 2020, 08:40 PM

21. they will walk free

count on it

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Response to Skittles (Reply #21)

Fri May 15, 2020, 08:49 PM

22. There are going to be independent prosecutors and state attorneys general go after him....

Walk free? Likely, but not unscathed.
If Trump loses he will continue to sow division by running his mouth through whatever news source or social media that will carry him, and those he threw under the bridge and pissed on will come out of the woodwork to reveal their stories once the see that Trump canít hurt them anymore. In the end will be like OJ, free but with no admirers, which in Trumps mind is torture.

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Response to Under The Radar (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 09:06 PM

23. He's a Dem and he knows how to do the job?

That's all I need.

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