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Benghazi security was OUTSOURCED to BLACKWATER. (Original Post) elehhhhna Sep 2012 OP
Academi (Blackwater) was contracted to provide security to the Benghazi consulate CJCRANE Sep 2012 #1
Hmm. A republican bastion of nasty. Surprise, surprise. elehhhhna Sep 2012 #2
Did I see Blackwater?????? malaise Sep 2012 #3
This is just what I heard on CNN, not confirmed. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #5
Halliburton is probably tucked away in there somewhere Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #45
THIS is where I would look to find out who told the annabanana Sep 2012 #6
I think the guards who were there did a good job CJCRANE Sep 2012 #7
I honestly think Blackwater or whatever it's called now... fascisthunter Sep 2012 #4
I thought they fled the country with their Christian Fundy Leader Erik Prince, who is on sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #13
More names than a cat has lives. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #39
"a" NEO-Nazi cult fascisthunter Sep 2012 #40
Should be jailed Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #42
and used as as an example globally fascisthunter Sep 2012 #44
Weren't a couple of the security people former military? gateley Sep 2012 #8
Blackwater hires SEALS once they're out of the mil... elehhhhna Sep 2012 #9
But but but Blackwater can donate to politicians of their choice thus eliminating any 2on2u Sep 2012 #10
Why don't we put an end to that? Who is benefitting? gateley Sep 2012 #36
private equity co.'s like carlyle, and veritas, who's top guy elehhhhna Sep 2012 #47
US Consulate in Benghazi was not given the standard security contract . dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #11
Blackwater is the defacto secret security arm of the Republican party. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #12
Blackwater. 'Nuf said. The Wielding Truth Sep 2012 #15
All this shite should have been cleaned up after malaise Sep 2012 #17
Agreed Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #46
Obama is sending marines to Libya, Egypt and Yemen malaise Sep 2012 #37
The private corporate buttsucker military. This can't be good. nt Zorra Sep 2012 #14
has this been confirmed? n/t ohheckyeah Sep 2012 #16
This is just what I heard on CNN. Here's what it says about Academi on wikipedia: CJCRANE Sep 2012 #18
Thanks for the info! n/t ohheckyeah Sep 2012 #21
Isn't that ReTHUG Prince guy from Blackwater a fundie zealot? n/t malaise Sep 2012 #23
Yes, the very same. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #30
...and the plot thickens. spanone Sep 2012 #19
Shame on the State Dept for hiring them. Shame all the way up. morningfog Sep 2012 #20
Not really. We pay a bundle for the mercenaries. aquart Sep 2012 #24
But, we know what we're buying. morningfog Sep 2012 #26
It was Blackwater. I wondered when I realized they were mercenaries. aquart Sep 2012 #22
There's no suggestion that the guards there didn't do their jobs. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #25
Yep. But now we're sending Marines. aquart Sep 2012 #27
Good. The State Dept can cancel the Blackwater contract then. HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #28
Mercenaries have been a liability and a source of supreme fuck ups for years. morningfog Sep 2012 #32
Renting ex-Seals is not cheap Generic Other Sep 2012 #35
this shouldn't come as a a surprise to anybody - we've been privatizing security & support for years MariaM83 Sep 2012 #29
THIS IS VERY ENLIGHTENING! fascisthunter Sep 2012 #31
I knew that when I heard that a former SEAL was killed. underpants Sep 2012 #33
A crying shame the u. S. Has to hire mercs. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #34
With this new information, it is fair to say this "security breach" may have been deliberate. Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #38
oh, definitely... now it's a matter of finding out who is connected fascisthunter Sep 2012 #41
Yep malaise Sep 2012 #43
Surprise, surprise, surprise...! n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #48
Whenever you hear "Private Security Contractor" Think Blackwater AnnieBW Sep 2012 #49

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. Academi (Blackwater) was contracted to provide security to the Benghazi consulate
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:04 PM
Sep 2012

according to a former Romney adviser on CNN (in he last segment just finished).

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. This is just what I heard on CNN, not confirmed.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:11 PM
Sep 2012

It was a former Romney adviser who said the contract was delayed for two months because the State Dept. wanted to analyze their security requirements. I don't know how much of that is true.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
6. THIS is where I would look to find out who told the
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:12 PM
Sep 2012

attackers where the "safe house" was. . . And the details of Steven's visit to Benghazi...

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
7. I think the guards who were there did a good job
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:14 PM
Sep 2012

but it appears that the full contract was delayed for some reason.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. I thought they fled the country with their Christian Fundy Leader Erik Prince, who is on
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:34 PM
Sep 2012

Christian Crusade, airc, and who is a friend of the far right and the Bushes, after all the murder and rape charges against them and that they were not receiving any more 'contracts' from the US Government? Were they there on their own, or being paid by someone else?

Erik Prince is good friends with Republicans in Congress also. Don't remember him ever being friendly towards Democrats.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
44. and used as as an example globally
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:29 PM
Sep 2012

for any blackwater members or those connected to such a vile aberration in US history, your time comes to an end.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
8. Weren't a couple of the security people former military?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:17 PM
Sep 2012

I think I read one was a Seal.

As somebody posted, isn't this traditionally the job of the Marines?

We should have nothing to do with Blackwater (whatever it's current name is) -- I just don't get it

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
9. Blackwater hires SEALS once they're out of the mil...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

for many times their military pay. Then bills us TRIPLE, at minimum. Privatization. We recruit, train, etc., then fukin B'water LEASES them BACK to us. It's HORSESHIT.

 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
10. But but but Blackwater can donate to politicians of their choice thus eliminating any
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:29 PM
Sep 2012

cronyism between them and the govt.

In this manner tax dollars are spent in the most efficient manner possible, by paying 4 or 5 times the rate that the military can do it for, who can argue the genius of this arrangement??

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/washington/08prince.html


Blackwater Chief at Nexus of Military and Business

By JAMES RISEN
Published: October 8, 2007

Correction Appended

WASHINGTON, Oct. 7 — Erik D. Prince, the crew-cut, square-jawed founder of Blackwater USA, the security contractor now at the center of a political storm in both Washington and Baghdad, is a man seemingly born to play a leading role in the private sector side of the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He is both a former member of the Navy Seals and the scion of a fabulously wealthy, deeply religious family that is enmeshed in Republican Party politics. As a result, the 38-year-old Mr. Prince stands at the nexus between American Special Operations, which has played such a critical role in the war operations, and the nation’s political and business elite, who have won enormous government contracts as war operations have increasingly been outsourced.

Republican political connections ran deep in his family long before Mr. Prince founded Blackwater in 1997. When he was a teenager, religious conservative leaders like Gary Bauer, now the president of American Values, were house guests. James C. Dobson, the founder of the evangelical organization Focus on the Family, gave the eulogy at his father’s funeral in 1995. “Dr. and Mrs. Dobson are friends with Erik Prince and his mother, Elsa Broekhuizen,” Focus on the Family said in a statement.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
11. US Consulate in Benghazi was not given the standard security contract .
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:31 PM
Sep 2012

see : http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1342361

I posted this earlier ,not that I really understood the subject ,but see comments. I'm not sure they had cover at all.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
12. Blackwater is the defacto secret security arm of the Republican party.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:32 PM
Sep 2012

I am assuming the security "failure" was deliberate until proven otherwise.

malaise

(268,885 posts)
37. Obama is sending marines to Libya, Egypt and Yemen
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:09 PM
Sep 2012

andhe's also sending FBI to Libya.
I want more info in this Blackwater mess

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
18. This is just what I heard on CNN. Here's what it says about Academi on wikipedia:
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:45 PM
Sep 2012

"Academi is currently the largest of the U.S. State Department's three private security contractors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi

aquart

(69,014 posts)
24. Not really. We pay a bundle for the mercenaries.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:58 PM
Sep 2012

And it pays our highly trained-on-our-dime personnel to leave our armed services and hire out.

So we lose twice.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
26. But, we know what we're buying.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:02 PM
Sep 2012

Blackwater, er Xe, er Academi have been caused us trouble for years. You think we would have learned by now.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
22. It was Blackwater. I wondered when I realized they were mercenaries.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:54 PM
Sep 2012

I don't think it worked out well.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
25. There's no suggestion that the guards there didn't do their jobs.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:01 PM
Sep 2012

It's up to the management to allocate the resources they think necessary.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
32. Mercenaries have been a liability and a source of supreme fuck ups for years.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:24 PM
Sep 2012

Managmet fucked up in using mercs.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
35. Renting ex-Seals is not cheap
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:53 PM
Sep 2012

I bet they were high priced mercenaries. They paid a high price anyway.

MariaM83

(233 posts)
29. this shouldn't come as a a surprise to anybody - we've been privatizing security & support for years
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:14 PM
Sep 2012

and the former Blackwater has been a main player

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
38. With this new information, it is fair to say this "security breach" may have been deliberate.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:21 PM
Sep 2012

Obama is right to send the US military and FBI to take over security operations.

AnnieBW

(10,422 posts)
49. Whenever you hear "Private Security Contractor" Think Blackwater
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:06 AM
Sep 2012

Or Xe. Or Wackyhut (Wackenhut). But probably Blackwater/Xe. The State Dept. outsourced diplomatic security to them to free up the Marines to go to Iraq and Afghanistan.

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