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H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:22 AM May 2020

Divorce

I usually do not write about personal issues here. Well, that's not really true. Plus, divorce is a big deal. I had opted for a separation from incoming film of Trump in April, opting to allow Stephen Colbert to represent my interests on television. I read some articles on the internet. But Trump is so toxic that I found not watching him was the healthy option.

Keep in mind that Trump wants every human being on Earth to watch and think about him each and every day. While I remain aware that he exists, I have better things to do with my time. And that obviously includes working for Democratic Party victories in November. I do not need to listen to any member of the Trump cult to focus on that.

While in my separation from listening to Trump phase, I took daily phone calls from family, friends, and/or associates, asking if I heard what he said or tweeted on that particular day? I noted that good people were becoming saturated in the anger and hostility that Trump was injecting into society. I found myself recalling a documentary I watched about an old man who only watched Fox News, morphing him from a decent gentleman into a raging turd. I strongly recommended these callers file for a separation from Trump, and place a restraining order on their televisions and computers.

As spring sprung, I began working in my garden, thinking more home-grown food might come in handy if Trump engineers a more total collapse of our country. Because I'm old and not nearly as strong as I was at age 26, I depend upon my young and enormously powerful sons to do the heavy lifting. I do the more technical tasks, including weeding, planting seeds, and changing the Beatles CDs as needed.

One son noted that weeds continue to sprout up in the garden beds. "The Earth is alive," I told him. That is a Good Thing that we should all be consciously aware of. Do not listen if Trump recommends injecting Round Up into the soil, for he is soon to be on the compost pile of the past.

The ultimate factor that led to the divorce was when my cousin called me, and was laughing so hard that it took several minutes before I understood what he was attempting to communicate. Trump told reporters that he was taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure. Yikes! Perhaps the aging lard-ball is heading for an early round up in hell, if such a place exists anywhere outside of the current White House. The very idea has reportedly resulted in millions of agnostics and athiests praying for such an outcome.

However, it is important to recognize that there are other potential side effects. Taking this for no valid reason can cause some unattractive, long-term consequences. These include paranoid and delusional thinking, as if Trump's mushroom-shaped brain needs an increase in those areas. Quite literally, it can convince a person that someone else can hear their thoughts. Perhaps this explains why Trump, beyond campaigning, is refusing to participate in the hanging of President Obama's portrait in the White House. That painting might be spying on his every thought.

We have a president who, now taking hydroxychloroquine, increasing his moral hydrophobia and ethical hydrochlamydria, will become increasingly dangerous as he seeks to spread his disease. The next five months hold the potential for tragic events across the land. I refuse to allow Trump et al room in my mind. Instead, I prefer to be one of the weeds that choke the life out of any insanity Trump plants in the White House.

Be strong! Be safe!
H2O Man

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Divorce (Original Post) H2O Man May 2020 OP
I recommend a video or two by Sarah Cooper. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #1
Yes! H2O Man May 2020 #3
Never watch trump DownriverDem May 2020 #24
Governor Whitmer H2O Man May 2020 #67
I divorced him too coeur_de_lion May 2020 #2
Those who call me H2O Man May 2020 #5
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Goodheart May 2020 #4
Neither do I. H2O Man May 2020 #6
Bwahahahahaaa spanone May 2020 #7
A warning: H2O Man May 2020 #11
👍🏼 spanone May 2020 #13
Of course it does! mountain grammy May 2020 #28
Thanks! H2O Man May 2020 #41
Just exactly what kind of "weed" are you pulling, (harvesting?) bubbazero May 2020 #52
Let me tell you H2O Man May 2020 #69
Brilliant, and Blinding bubbazero May 2020 #85
Think of the ratings! Kid Berwyn May 2020 #8
Right! H2O Man May 2020 #12
"dropping like lies" lagomorph777 May 2020 #15
Good one. mountain grammy May 2020 #29
So. Who runs Vladimir? Kid Berwyn May 2020 #56
Dude, it took you this long!! ffr May 2020 #9
A funny thing ...... H2O Man May 2020 #16
Damn! I was gonna say, 'you blamming it on a concussion', but damn! ffr May 2020 #26
Thanks! H2O Man May 2020 #30
"aging is a process that requires patience" Alex4Martinez May 2020 #64
That doctor H2O Man May 2020 #65
So smart. The women throughout my life have made all the difference. All of it. Alex4Martinez May 2020 #68
Very good! H2O Man May 2020 #70
So one could say this is your Smickey May 2020 #38
That works H2O Man May 2020 #42
We remember that malaise May 2020 #76
It was not fun. H2O Man May 2020 #78
I can imagine the pain and discomfort malaise May 2020 #83
"Trump's mushroom-shaped brain" Pantagruel May 2020 #10
Thank you. H2O Man May 2020 #18
"millions of agnostics and athiests praying for such an outcome..." lagomorph777 May 2020 #14
Ha! H2O Man May 2020 #20
Just Don't Divorce Us! Me. May 2020 #17
Corey got me H2O Man May 2020 #21
How Did Darryl Do? Me. May 2020 #22
In this year's NYS GG? H2O Man May 2020 #32
Another great essay H2O Man. panader0 May 2020 #19
Nice! H2O Man May 2020 #25
So your birthday is the 20th? panader0 May 2020 #34
16th H2O Man May 2020 #40
Mine, too! dmr May 2020 #63
It's a magical day! H2O Man May 2020 #66
Absolutely brilliant malaise May 2020 #23
Thanks! H2O Man May 2020 #27
It's better than brilliant malaise May 2020 #31
Good idea. malthaussen May 2020 #33
Good point. H2O Man May 2020 #43
My favolite part of your essay was ... planetc May 2020 #35
Very good! H2O Man May 2020 #44
THIS! "...for he is soon to be on the compost pile of the past." calimary May 2020 #36
Right. H2O Man May 2020 #45
Gave min up a month ago... Hulk May 2020 #37
Definitely. H2O Man May 2020 #46
I sincerely appreciate your response. Hulk May 2020 #53
I hear you, Hulk! H2O Man May 2020 #72
Appreciated Hulk May 2020 #80
One of your best posts! cp May 2020 #39
Thank you! H2O Man May 2020 #47
I've mostly eliminated Trump from my world. hunter May 2020 #48
Well said! H2O Man May 2020 #50
Trump is Poison. Martin Eden May 2020 #49
Yes, for sure. H2O Man May 2020 #51
Trump is ridiculous on many levels Martin Eden May 2020 #55
Definitely! H2O Man May 2020 #71
Donald Trump can be manipulated Martin Eden May 2020 #84
I tried so many times to leave it all behind, but failed. ecstatic May 2020 #54
Yep! H2O Man May 2020 #73
You have given us a sweet breeze with this gem. grantcart May 2020 #57
Thanks! H2O Man May 2020 #74
The thought of him sending Steven Miller, Kellyanne and Ivanka to lunatica May 2020 #58
I love it! H2O Man May 2020 #75
I can honestly say, with the utmost pride hangaleft May 2020 #59
Great! H2O Man May 2020 #77
I love your post. love_katz May 2020 #60
"aching muscles" H2O Man May 2020 #79
Yeah, those were the days. love_katz May 2020 #86
A day doesn't go past without something more outrageous than the last. argyl May 2020 #61
I found DU H2O Man May 2020 #81
❤️💪🏾 💗 BlancheSplanchnik May 2020 #62
Thanks! H2O Man May 2020 #82

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
1. I recommend a video or two by Sarah Cooper.
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:28 AM
May 2020

There are quite a few people who find her videos the only way to tolerate trump's voice. She's medicinal.

My garden is still too saturated to work. It is sprouting a nice bunch of walnut trees without any effort on my part, though.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
3. Yes!
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:36 AM
May 2020

I participate in a few groups elsewhere on the internet, with people organizing against Trump. And I've seen some of Ms. Cooper!

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
24. Never watch trump
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:29 AM
May 2020

I prefer my great Governor Whitmer! rightie repubs are still very nasty. The stuff they post on FB is insane.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
2. I divorced him too
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:32 AM
May 2020

And I never watch him unless someone posts a parody that I think is funny.

But I have to admit he does spend too much time in my mind and perhaps it is time for a restraining order as well.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
5. Those who call me
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:38 AM
May 2020

have learned that I haven't heard what shit Trump has splattered upon society that day, until Stephen Colber comes on. I highly recommend this approach. Very highly.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
11. A warning:
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:11 AM
May 2020

I remember Abbie Hoffman telling me that "laughing gas is no laughing matter," and to only abuse the drugs your doctor prescribes. I'm unsure of how -- or, if -- that connects with this OP/thread. But not knowing what I'm talking about has been a life-long hobby of mine.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
28. Of course it does!
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:42 AM
May 2020
I so relate to you. I never know what I’m talking about but completely understand what you’re talking about. 😬.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
41. Thanks!
Fri May 22, 2020, 01:43 PM
May 2020

I always enjoy your contributions on this forum -- even before knowing that you, too, had a Super Secret Decoder Ring that belongs to a group of us who survived the past. Some day, hopefully, young folk will understand, too.

Until that day, we'll keep in mind Beatle John's lyric, "Half of what I say is meaningles ...."

bubbazero

(296 posts)
52. Just exactly what kind of "weed" are you pulling, (harvesting?)
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:53 PM
May 2020

and what or how are you using, disposing, or recycling it?

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
69. Let me tell you
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:28 PM
May 2020

two stories, one of which is true......

Back in the early 1970s, when Richard Nixon was imagined to be the worst possible president, I was hanging out one afternoon with David Peel and Abbie. Both were feeling guilty about their direct influences upon John's newest double LP, "Sometime in New York City." Sensing they we were all overcome with grief, I suggested that we seek relief in Pat Boone's swimming pool. By no coincidence, Nancy Reagan was there, willing to baptis us. When we pleaded with her to give us the courage to not abuse the drugs our beast fiends might tempt us with, Nancy answered, "Just Say No!" These three words, soon to appear in the Newest Testicle, saved a generation.

Okay, let's see if story #2 is more convincing .....

On that same day, I was getting very high with two of my best hoodlum friends.Remember, this was at a time of innocence, though zero poltical correctness. One friend became ill at ease, with the potent weed we were smoking. He asked my bud David what type of weed it was? I still remember David's answer:"Black African Pygmy Swamp Fever Death Weed." Two years later, though not to the day, David had the first of aseries of psychiatric hospitalizations.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
12. Right!
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:14 AM
May 2020

Actually, there are lots and lots of crimes that we know about. And his ratings seem to be dropping like lies.

Kid Berwyn

(14,876 posts)
56. So. Who runs Vladimir?
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:11 AM
May 2020

“A zen couch potato is a person who contemplates the nature of televised existence.”



“Yes; we have a specific procedure which we follow in all cases where the Agency is in contact, for the purposes of acquiring intelligence or whatever the case may be, with an individual.“

ffr

(22,669 posts)
9. Dude, it took you this long!!
Fri May 22, 2020, 10:54 AM
May 2020

Dump that turd off at the next stop!

Congratulations on making the right decision. Life's too short to live in anger and bewilderment.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
16. A funny thing ......
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:21 AM
May 2020

not that I recommend it for others. Two years ago, on the ride home from a few days at the NYS Golden Gloves' finals, my son asked me if I had ever been knocked out cold in a fight? I had not, in 329 bouts.

Upon arriving home, my dogs were so happy to see me that they knocked me over. I hit the back of my fat head on a sturdy counter, and was knocked very unconscious. Luckily, my boy was carrying my stuff into the house, and found me.Being Irish by nature, I waited the required 48 hours before seeking medical attention. The symptoms refused to go away in that time period.

Long story long, I spent some time in the ICU. My brain had a pool of blood on it, and there wasa section of what the good doctors called "dead brain matter." Anyhow, I can honestly say that I haven't been in a bad mood since then .....at least that I can remember. But I will say that "dead brain matter" sounds like a Trump cult war cry: "Dead brains matter! Dead brains matter!"

ffr

(22,669 posts)
26. Damn! I was gonna say, 'you blamming it on a concussion', but damn!
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:37 AM
May 2020

That's a lucky brush with death, I'd imagine.

Proof that some of it's still working. You haven't lost your sense of humor.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
30. Thanks!
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:48 AM
May 2020

The ER doctor kept asking me why I waited for days before seeking medical attention? Didn't I know that I could have died? I informed him that I'd much rather die in the discomfort of my own home -- that it was being convinced I would live that brought me there.

After a full day in the ER, they put me in the ICU, and had me sign a form saying I would not so much as attempt to get out of bed without two nurses assisting me. Thus, every two hours, I would pretend to sleepwalk to the nurses' station outside my door, and inquire if any local business delivered marijuana? Or insist that one of them surely had a bowl in their car, waiting for lunch time.

Recently, my best doctor read the two interviews I did with Dr. Bandy Lee, and said that it was apparent that my brain had healed. She also reminded me that I am old, and that aging is a process that requires patience. I'm not so sure about that, but I'm happy to play this hand as long as the game lasts.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
65. That doctor
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:03 PM
May 2020

has known me since we were kids. In fact, she was my 6th grade sweetheart. Last yea, when my youngest daughter accompanied me to meet with her, my daughter said that I seemed too stupid to take care of myself. The doctor replied that she had known me for many decades, and believed that I was just too stubborn. Eventually, they agreed on too stupid and too stubborn. I felt honored.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
68. So smart. The women throughout my life have made all the difference. All of it.
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:23 PM
May 2020

Being raised by my grandmother, a working mom, and older sister may have had an influence but I always felt blessed and well cared for. My current wife and best friend for nearly 20 years has saved me from myself more than once.

And taking their counsel seriously has helped me overcome every adversity, so far.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
70. Very good!
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:37 PM
May 2020

I can relate. Yes, I can!

My paternal grandfather came here from the Old Sod in the 1870s. In traditional Irish society, women played an equal, though not exact, role as men. This was one reason for the hatred the Irish immigrants encountered.

Growing up, connections on my maternal side resulted in my spending a lot of time at the Onondaga Nation, where women play an equal, though not exact, role as men. I'm sure that this played a role in the conflicts the Onondaga had with the European boat people.

I think these factors influenced me. But it really was having daughters that fully civilized me.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
42. That works
Fri May 22, 2020, 01:49 PM
May 2020

well when considering Trump claims to be a "counter-puncher." As an old boxer who mastered the fine art of counter-punching, and who remembers his co-promoting with the human parasite Don King, I'd love to tell him that he's just a disgusting spoiled brat.

There was a time, when Iron Mike Tyson was in his out-of-control cocaine phase, when Trump wanted to buy Tyson's contract from King. Think of all the problems that could have been avoided.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
78. It was not fun.
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:00 PM
May 2020

As I stated, I do NOT recommend head inujuries to anyone .....with the possible exception of republicans.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. "millions of agnostics and athiests praying for such an outcome..."
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:16 AM
May 2020

Hah! Now I think you are reading my mind.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
32. In this year's NYS GG?
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:54 AM
May 2020

He's in the finals again, for the 4th year in a row. But they are postponed until an uncertain date.

A strange, not really funny thing: the commissioner who runs the GG told me last year that several guys scheduled to fight Darren call him at the last minute, saying they can't come because their grandmother is sick or died. He said it had gotten to the point where it was funny but frustrating, and he had told one guy he needed to quit lying. With covid, he can't be so sure, unless granny has died two years in a row.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
19. Another great essay H2O Man.
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:23 AM
May 2020

And I agree with pantagruel above--mushroom shaped brain is really good.
You made me wish my two sons were here to help me. Both are far away.
To keep my mind on a good path, I watch the videos my daughter sends me
of my first grandchild. She'll be two months on Monday.
Gardening helps too. The hardest part is over, now just watering and weeding.
All the best.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
25. Nice!
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:33 AM
May 2020

Grandchildren are wonderful! That's so nice! I'm hoping to have one (many) some day.

Last Saturday, my younger son drove me to visit some old (and young) Native friends, and to do ceremony. I found out two days ago that a good friend who has participated in our ceremonies for years had a baby girl around the time we were in the lodge! She told me that she figured it was a good birthday, knowing it was mine.

Yesterday, my cat had kittens, somewhere in my garage, and I have ten new chicks. I called the chicks my new herd of raptors on facebook, and another old friend from ceremony said that would make a good name for a rock band.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
63. Mine, too!
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:02 AM
May 2020

I've always thought it was the best date ever. Winter is over, leaves on the trees and the lilacs are blooming.

But, nowadays I live in Northern Michigan, and there are no leaves, just buds, and no lilacs yet <sigh>

Daughter-in-law's mom shares the same date. Our grandson says we are berfday twins!

Happy berfday to you, twin!

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
66. It's a magical day!
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:10 PM
May 2020

A lot of my extended family and friends were born in May. Today is, for example, my cousin/brother's birthday. He's the one who was the victim of a "road rage" incident a few years back, when a drunk, off-duty cop shot him and his son -- because his son was driving the speed limit, and the guy wanted to hurry to get another six-pack. The son died in my cousin's arms, while the cop continued for a couple miles and got the beer. The DU Community played an essential role in lobbying the DA and county judge for the strictest handling of the case.

But the 16th is reserved for special people!

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
27. Thanks!
Fri May 22, 2020, 11:38 AM
May 2020

I wouldn't go so far as to call it "brilliant," but I surely do appreciate that!

Watching Colbert last night (YouTube re-runs included), I was struck by what a pathetic, petty, tiny man Trump is. He lacks the capacity to recognize how weak he looks as he refuses to participate in putting President Obama's potrait up in the White House.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
33. Good idea.
Fri May 22, 2020, 12:08 PM
May 2020

Frankly, I never listen to any politicians, believing that oratory is so much empty wind. Since it is necessary to observe their policies and actions, however, I do try to keep up with data on what they've actually done. This is especially challenging in re Mr Trump, since he is surrounded by lies in everything.

-- Mal

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
43. Good point.
Fri May 22, 2020, 01:52 PM
May 2020

It's better to judge politicians by their actions, for sure. I couldn't agree more.

I've encountered numerous liars in my life, as well as seeing plenty of them on television ....politicians and ministers. But nothing to compare with Trump. No one could hold a candle to him. But we'll hold a torch to his presidency in November.

planetc

(7,805 posts)
35. My favolite part of your essay was ...
Fri May 22, 2020, 12:16 PM
May 2020

"I do the more technical tasks, including weeding, planting seeds, and changing the Beatles CDs as needed." This sounds to me like a recipe for a perfect life. Now that it is finally warm enough here to attack the damage winter wrought, I realize that I, too, can listen to Beatles CDs, without even hunting up an extension cord. The rose bushes have new growth, and some dwarf forget-me-nots have carpeted part of my tiny flower bed. I have planted nothing this year, as it only just stopped snowing. In the last few years, I have been entranced by how many of last year's annuals have decided they like to grow here, and reseeded themselves in attractive places. The peonies have buds. As for our president, I have maintained from the beginning of his "tenure" that he should never have been sworn in to begin with, and that the rest of the country is under the mass delusion that he has any power. He has no power except what we give him, which I recommend we stop doing immediately, especially his power to spoil our day. Only we can spoil our day. Instead, let's seize the day, seed it, water if necessary, and admire our crop while listening to Beatles CDs.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
44. Very good!
Fri May 22, 2020, 01:58 PM
May 2020

I've been working on my flower beds as well. My peonies are doing great. I just love them! And I'm expanding some of my rose beds ....well, my boys are.

In the 1940s through '52, a lady who lived and died here put in enormous flower beds, surrounding the lawn. We've got a lot of them back in business since moving here in 1995. I think about her every year when plants come up and into bloom. Others who have lived here since the place was a stage coach station circa 1795 on have also planted roses. Our additions to the variety are my contribution to the next inhabitants.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
36. THIS! "...for he is soon to be on the compost pile of the past."
Fri May 22, 2020, 12:27 PM
May 2020

THAT!!! ^^^^^

I look forward to that day! I'm even gonna break my diet on that day. Hellooooooo chocolate!

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
37. Gave min up a month ago...
Fri May 22, 2020, 12:47 PM
May 2020

I turn the channel when I hear his name, see his face or God forbid, sense a segment with him spewing sewage into the airwaves. He might as well be Satan, in my book. It is rejuvenating to feel that I can subtract him from my senses 100%.

The same is true for Ms. lindsey, Collins, gohmert, ka conway, the blond whore spokesperson, vannity, ingraham, carlson, gaetz, cotton, nunes, cruz...and every other lying sleazeball from hell that spews sewage into the air. I feel so much better.

“Mute” doesn’t do it. I either turn it off or switch the channel. I’m suffering enough with the international humiliation of these low life, disgusting ass holes disparaging the reputation of a country I was once proud of. Fuck them all. Sadly, we won’t recuperate adequately until long after I am dead and gone.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
46. Definitely.
Fri May 22, 2020, 03:04 PM
May 2020

Good list of horrible people! I find Conway particularly annoying. I remember the day she was on Mourning Joe praising Trump .....then, during a commercial break, complained of how disgusting it was to work for him, and pretended to stick her finger down her throat. That morning, I posted here that it would be the last time she was on that show. A day or so later, Mika Mouse announced that Conway was not welcome on the show any more.

Your last paragraph nails it. I truly appreciate that. I've long been fascinated with our Constitution, with Constitutional Law (imperfect as it has at times been), and the good people from our country. I like the flag, and am convinced it belongs to us and not them, I know the Constitution is more important. And those shitheads are damaging it.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
53. I sincerely appreciate your response.
Fri May 22, 2020, 09:14 PM
May 2020

My soul is heavy. I plan to be around for another 10, maybe 20 years if I'm lucky.

My country has lost it's pride....it's place in the world. We have allowed this draft dodging coward and con artist to steal our flag and prestige, and turn it in to his sinister scheme to elevate himself into some golden idol that the world should kneel to...and we suffer as a result
We bare the shame. This low life bottom feeder has managed to manipulate the ratings whore media to play to his red herrings and shiny object distractions from the real peril we face.

We have been pierced through the heart on the world stage. We are laughed at, scorned or ignored. Our place in the world is below third world countries...and our importance is less than the least important in the European union. I have already submitted to a position of shame on the international front with my friends abroad. I accept it. I know it will take generations of progressive control to even begin to change that, and I'm not confident that we are capable..

This disgusting draft dodging coward is only the cherry in the shit sundae. His cult are the scoops of support that elevated him. It began with reagan...fueled by fox, hyper fueled by Putin and the GOPutin tools...and IF we survive, I will never know. I will be ashes in the wind should we ever succeed.

I have to look elsewhere for my confidence. My country is gone. Like the 60's...it was yesterday.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
72. I hear you, Hulk!
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:06 PM
May 2020

I know the feeling very well.

I have three friends from other countries -- two from Europe, one from the Middle East -- that I came to know through my children's college experience. (One of their fathers was an ambassador who was in the room back when the fellow threw his shoes at George W. Bush!) They all say that their people were puzzled as to how Trump was ever mistaken for a "leader," and are horrified by what America has become.

This spring, my younger son an I have been walking some of our favorite fields, collecting artifacts from the past. He is a crisis counselor at a small city school in our area. He has the ability to identify, on many levels, the problems associated with his job, and the current social-political environment. We always have meaningful conversations as we walk, though this spring, I can tell he is very concerned about the future.

Thus, every time we've been out this year, he questions me about the three primary reformation prophets of the Iroquois, in great detail. Sapling was circa 2,000, Peace Maker 425 ad, and Hianwatha 850 ad. (Handsome Lake was 1798, though those I am associated with respect his vision, but remain Long House.)

Societies that reach a state of empire always decay from within, in cycles that are as certain as the seasons. However, that decay can be used for the compost that promotes new growth of principles -- for great principles remain constant. The agents of decay in our society have no principles, of corse, thus promoting the unhealthy tensions in our present day. An obvious example is that Trump feels no eed to tell the Truth. For lying is his language, and deceit his tongue.

I love the promise of my garden. New sprouts are popping up through the living Earth. All of organic life on Earth is here for the Earth's purposes. All of organic life either grows, or decays. I struggle at times to keep that in mind. But I do see some strong, healthy new life coming up in the younger generations. Like yourself, I do not know how long I'll be here to witness their growth. But if they stick to those principles, I think they will overcome the current rot.

cp

(6,623 posts)
39. One of your best posts!
Fri May 22, 2020, 01:19 PM
May 2020

And that's saying something.
Thank you.
Life is too short and splendid to squander on blight.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
47. Thank you!
Fri May 22, 2020, 03:06 PM
May 2020

While reading DU yesterday, a Good Friend's comments sparked the mental outline for today's essay. We were discussing the benefits of focusing on the good, rather than the president.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
48. I've mostly eliminated Trump from my world.
Fri May 22, 2020, 03:42 PM
May 2020

Nothing he says has any more importance than the quacking of an angry duck.

I don't watch any traditional television. I think television is the worst possible medium for news and opinion.

"Trump" is on my trash by keyword list here on DU, which is the only social media I partake of.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
50. Well said!
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:30 PM
May 2020

I would not mind if people said things such as, "I have to take a wicked trump." But that's about it.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
49. Trump is Poison.
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:22 PM
May 2020

Daily doses are even worse for human health than taking unprescribed hydroxychloroquine or injecting lysol.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
51. Yes, for sure.
Fri May 22, 2020, 06:32 PM
May 2020

I watch some of the late night comedy shows, because they make fun of him. And I think that is important. The more people laugh at him -- while recognizing the severe danger he poses -- the better.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
55. Trump is ridiculous on many levels
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:03 AM
May 2020

The more people who treat him as an object of ridicule, the better.

While acknowledging the real dangers of a sociopath wielding the powers of the Oval Office.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
71. Definitely!
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:39 PM
May 2020

While Trump feels no shame, he is reactive to being shamed. That is a most important weapon we have.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
54. I tried so many times to leave it all behind, but failed.
Fri May 22, 2020, 09:20 PM
May 2020

It's impossible. People kept bringing up his name, despite my repeated requests that his name not be brought up. Even people who were not interested in politics 4 years ago regularly bring him up. So I gave up and decided to just deal with the daily abuse, chaos and lies.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
73. Yep!
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:35 PM
May 2020

It's nearly impossible to do. I still hear from family and friends daily about the latest lie and the newest outrage. I know I can't avoid that. But I try to not watch any of his press conferences, etc. The sight of him and/or the sounds that gurgle from his oral cavity make me either angry or sick. And I've tried, with admittedly some exceptions over the decades, to not hate any human being.

I recognize there is some wisdom in the old saying "hate the sin, love the sinner." But when I see the suffering and death he causes -- often with glee -- I say, "Fuck that."

Last night, I learned another old friend died of corona, the second this week. There were too many people dying in the first two months of the year, but the pace has picked up.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
57. You have given us a sweet breeze with this gem.
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:31 AM
May 2020

I impose a one hour Trump curfew. By 11 am I am finished until Maddow and she avoids repeating Trump statements.


300 fights under the belt and our greatest fight lays before us

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
74. Thanks!
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:44 PM
May 2020

This essay was the direct result of a conversation that I had with our Good Friend "malaise" a day earlier. Talking with her always makes me remember that there are things we can and must do to take care of ourselves.

Ms. Maddow is a gem.

When the social isolating came about, both of my sons decided to ride it out here. They said it would be an up-dated version of when they were little, and the three of us lived in an apartment, and had some adventures. When circumstances led to gyms closing, and the Golden Gloves' finals being postponed, my younger boy said it meant I would need to be his sparring partner. Yikes! He said that it ould be similar to when he was a youngster, except that now he'd be the big strong guy. Ha!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
58. The thought of him sending Steven Miller, Kellyanne and Ivanka to
Sat May 23, 2020, 03:38 AM
May 2020

find Obama lurking in some hidey hole in the White House made me laugh! Doesn’t he know Obama can hear him all the way from Chicago?

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
75. I love it!
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:50 PM
May 2020

When I read this, I was laughing so hard that my dog came running to see if I was okay! It would make a great SNL skit!

My oldest brother is brain damaged from a long boxing career, followed by decades of the Irish Flu. He is convinced that Dick Cheney monitors him daily through his television. On one hand, it is painful to see. On the other hand, once we leave his home, my children come up with the darkest humor. I will be bending their ears today, telling them about your message!

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
59. I can honestly say, with the utmost pride
Sat May 23, 2020, 05:34 AM
May 2020

Except for an unavoidable passing glimpse, I have never seen video coverage of Trump, live or on tape delay, in my life. Not before The Apprentice, not during The Apprentice’s run, not during the Republican debates, not since he started squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Never. Ever. Not once.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
77. Great!
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:58 PM
May 2020

I knew who he was, from his partnership with Don King in promoting boxing in the 1980s. Having a very, very low opinion of King, I assumed Trump was just another parasite. I was unaware of "The Apprentice" until he entered the republican primaries, as I have no interest in that type of crap.

When he was first in the primaries, an associate assured me it was a scam with two goals: to promote the Trump brand, and todamage Jeb Bush as severely as possible, so that Clinton could wipe the mat with Bush in the general election. Obviously, even if that was the original plan, things changed during the primaries. I did watch the republican debates, finding them to be a giggle at first, but then actually feeling sorry for a Bush, truly a first in my life.

love_katz

(2,578 posts)
60. I love your post.
Sat May 23, 2020, 05:47 AM
May 2020

I have also done likewise, because I can't bear to hear tRump at all, not even on Colbert, whom I love. I have even had to limit my exposure to the various late night comedy shows, because if Agolf Twitler comes on I end up shouting over his speech, in an effort to drown him out. It is cathartic, the first few times, but becomes harmful to my mental and physical health when it happens too often. When I want to catch up with the news, I prefer coming to DU, where I can control my exposure. Your garden sounds wonderful. I am also old, so I will have to limit my interaction with my yard. But even aching muscles is better than the toxic swill that is coming from Dolt 45.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
79. "aching muscles"
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:08 PM
May 2020

Remember being young, when things like aching muscles and injuries healed quickly? Ha! Those were the days!

Wednesday and Thursday brought beautiful warm, sunny weather here. Even when I wasn't actually working in the garden, I was sitting there and listening to Beatles CDs. I forgot all about sun burn, unfortunately, and yesterday found myself a bright red (except for where my ponytail made for a pale line down the length of my back). Thus, I spent much of the day in the shade near the garden, listening to the Beatles, Hendrix, the Doors, and Neil Young. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

love_katz

(2,578 posts)
86. Yeah, those were the days.
Sun May 24, 2020, 09:08 AM
May 2020

I sure bounced back more quickly, it seemed. And I could get by with a lot less sleep. Music helps a lot. Rock and roll forever! I find myself really enjoying old tunes from the sixties and seventies. They bring back memories of good times. Wishing joy to you and yours. Please stay safe and well.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
61. A day doesn't go past without something more outrageous than the last.
Sat May 23, 2020, 07:07 AM
May 2020

I'm tired of him, really tired. Don't even look for his next idiocy. It does seem to seep in regardless,though.
For now my main priorities are sheltering in place, social distancing, and ALWAYS wearing a mask. And of course staying in contact with those I care about as best as I can.

I lot of them are the good people on DU. I don't post much, but I do enjoy reading the writings of really intelligent people.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
81. I found DU
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:14 PM
May 2020

to be an oasis during the Cheney-bush years. I think it serves the same role now, and that is at least as necessary today as it was then.

If we were to encounter a person like Trump in our every-day life, we would surely do everything in our power to avoid any contact with him. We wouldn't have hung out with him in high school, or in college. We should not allow Trump any more room in our lives today.

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