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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Fri May 22, 2020, 12:56 PM May 2020

Chris Wallace debunks Trump: No record of massive or serious fraud from mail-in voting

And under the bus he goes!

TheHill.com
Chris Wallace debunks Trump: No record of massive or serious fraud from mail-in voting
By Joe Concha - 05/22/20 12:43 PM EDT


Fox News's Chris Wallace discredited President Trump’s claims that mail-in voting is susceptible to fraud, arguing Friday "there really is no record of massive fraud or even serious fraud from mail-in voting."

“I’ve done some deep dive into it, there really is no record of massive fraud or even serious fraud from mail-in voting,” Wallace, the "Fox News Sunday" anchor, told "America's Newsroom" on Friday morning.

“It’s being carried out in Republican states, it’s being carried out in Democratic states, there is no indication that mail-in voting as opposed to in person voting tends to favor one party over another,” Wallace said.



When anchor Ed Henry asked if it was possible that a ballot mailed in could be swapped with another by someone receiving the mailed-in ballot, as Trump has suggested, Wallace was skeptical.

“What he saying is you can’t trust the U.S. mail,” Wallace replied. “I don’t know, that strikes me as kind of a reach here, and the history is that mail-in ballots are honest, and there was very little indication of fraud.”

“But when people get their ballots and mail them in themselves, no history of fraud at all,” Wallace later added.


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Chris Wallace debunks Trump: No record of massive or serious fraud from mail-in voting (Original Post) babylonsister May 2020 OP
K&R for visibility. crickets May 2020 #1
wouldn't young people be more likely to vote if it could be done by mail? Skittles May 2020 #2
More people in general would be likely to vote if they could do it by mail. forgotmylogin May 2020 #8
it is also harder to make black folk stand in long lines to vote Skittles May 2020 #10
Swapping ballots... Grins May 2020 #3
...and under the bus may he remain! calimary May 2020 #4
Right wing outrage accusing him of being "Deep State"... WinstonSmith4740 May 2020 #5
Also "boring, low-ratings Chris Wallace" from boring, low-rated Needy Amin (nt) mr_lebowski May 2020 #7
"Needy Amin"! WinstonSmith4740 May 2020 #9
I mean...how does the IRS manage to prevent tax fraud by mail? (n/t) forgotmylogin May 2020 #6
That is if the reason Trump hates vote by mail is because of the non-existent fraud gratuitous May 2020 #11
"Total lack of evidence is the best PROOF!!" Grokenstein May 2020 #12
That's why Trump has left Fux Noise for the Onan network Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #13

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
2. wouldn't young people be more likely to vote if it could be done by mail?
Fri May 22, 2020, 03:00 PM
May 2020

or is that strictly an online scenario?

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
8. More people in general would be likely to vote if they could do it by mail.
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:11 PM
May 2020

The rightwing believe that more votes = less chance of Rs getting elected because the people who tend to lean liberal are busy working on election day, can't take time off, have gerrymandered districts with fewer voting machines etc.

Trump says mail voting means Republicans would lose every election. Is that true? No.

President Donald Trump said that if the United States switched to all-mail voting, “you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”

The GOP speaker of the House in Georgia said an all-mail election would be “extremely devastating to Republicans.”

Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., said universal mail voting would be “the end of our republic as we know it.”
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As with false claims by Republicans about vote-by-mail fraud, there is no evidence to back up the argument from the right that all-mail elections favor Democrats. But Trump and some of his allies are warning that vote-by-mail poses an existential threat to their party, in hopes of galvanizing Republican opposition to a voting method that is widely seen as safer than in-person voting in the era of the coronavirus.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-nyt-mail-voting-ballots-20200410-qfnxhakicve3ndpxz64lcsqzr4-story.html



Also, voting by mail takes some forethought, and they're counting on when they scrub the voting rolls for anyone with an African-American or foreign-sounding name that they won't want nor be able to go through the trouble to fix it day of. Voting by mail would give them advanced warning that something is wrong with their registration and time to fix it.

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
10. it is also harder to make black folk stand in long lines to vote
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:52 PM
May 2020

every politician should advocate for whatever makes more people vote but I think it's harder for repukes to suppress the vote when it's done via mail

Grins

(7,211 posts)
3. Swapping ballots...
Fri May 22, 2020, 03:41 PM
May 2020
“(Could) a ballot mailed in ...be swapped with another by someone receiving the mailed-in ballot...”

So answer this one Mr. Henry:

How would the criminal with the false ballot get the barcode from the legitimate ballot?

It would be caught immediately!
And too many of them? Alarm bells and flashing lights!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. That is if the reason Trump hates vote by mail is because of the non-existent fraud
Fri May 22, 2020, 04:56 PM
May 2020

It's not the real reason, though. More ballots being cast is almost always bad for Republicans.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
12. "Total lack of evidence is the best PROOF!!"
Fri May 22, 2020, 05:35 PM
May 2020

"It just shows how deep the conspiracy is!!" -- Maga J. Redhat, chairman of the local Patriotically Ignorant Guys chapter

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