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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:16 AM Sep 2012

I will bet you $10,000

That both Romney and Ryan are each cooking up some kind of "debate zinger" which is going to go over like a lead balloon.

It'll top "Can I call you Joe?" as the worst fail ever in needing to set up a contrived "spontaneous" line.

The GOP is going to cry it was unfair to put Barack Obama behind the podium that Mitt wanted to debate.

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I will bet you $10,000 (Original Post) jberryhill Sep 2012 OP
And to think Palin said that because she kept calling Biden "O'Biden". Jennicut Sep 2012 #1
"Some kind of "debate zinger"" is way too vague an idea upon which to wage such dear stakes. greyl Sep 2012 #2
Won't be taking that bet for sure. joshcryer Sep 2012 #3
It'll hang there in the air like a turd jberryhill Sep 2012 #10
You mean like, "There you go again!" longship Sep 2012 #4
It would be more entertaining if Ryan were to debate the President pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #5
He'll show up and talk over Mitt jberryhill Sep 2012 #12
You mean an umbrella handle? joshcryer Sep 2012 #16
What they will do is: begin_within Sep 2012 #6
That sounds about right oberliner Sep 2012 #7
Bingo. That's exactly what I expect. Scuba Sep 2012 #20
I hope Obama ponts that out by saying, Qutzupalotl Sep 2012 #21
I think they'll just do that with cardboard cutouts and tape recorders and no one will know the lonestarnot Sep 2012 #22
They can have someone stand behind the cutout to do the "wink." begin_within Sep 2012 #23
Or crazy. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #24
He already used "corporations are people too, my friend" JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #8
Already been done pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #11
Ron Paul is a god damned leprechaun jberryhill Sep 2012 #13
Romney would never be able to pull off a zinger Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #9
don't suppose oldhippydude Sep 2012 #17
My idea of a Romney zinger...... left on green only Sep 2012 #14
Yeah, a real funny guy, that one jberryhill Sep 2012 #15
I had to google " zinger " darkangel218 Sep 2012 #18
$10k? LOL. I get that reference. I also think you're right. 'member Palin's "Say it ain't so, Joe." Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #19

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
1. And to think Palin said that because she kept calling Biden "O'Biden".
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:22 AM
Sep 2012

It's gonna be interesting. Mitt was not a great debater in the primaries.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
2. "Some kind of "debate zinger"" is way too vague an idea upon which to wage such dear stakes.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:30 AM
Sep 2012

This has been an episode of Taking Something Much Too Literally.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
3. Won't be taking that bet for sure.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:30 AM
Sep 2012

They're so out of touch so it's almost a guarantee that this will happen.

And it's going to be fucking hilarious.

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. You mean like, "There you go again!"
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:35 AM
Sep 2012

Could be. I certainly wouldn't take the other side of that bet.

It is really funny. The fact that you proposed this bet got me thinking that the Republicans really do see the campaign as a strictly rhetorical contest. Maybe that's why they do not seem to be worried about facts or truth. Whoever has the best rhetoric, the best story, the best sound bytes wins. They don't care about truth because it is all about the big lie that the Democratic Party is evil. Anything to keep that message at the forefront is justified.

They have been doing it for decades and Democrats have done little to stop them. Maybe it is because Democrats have wanted to be the adults at the table. I just don't know.

But having watched it for decades I see the Republicans' rhetoric beginning to unravel like a cheap sweater. I have thought that President Obama has been too accommodating, but I am no longer sure of that. I now think he may have played his hand about right. We will see in the next weeks.

I think we'll see this as a campaign for the history books. Since late spring I have seen very few miscues by the Obama team, and no major ones. It makes me happy every day that he's our President.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. It would be more entertaining if Ryan were to debate the President
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:37 AM
Sep 2012

"Mr. President, I knew FDR, and you're no FDR!1!!"

"Don't talk to me about voter suppression. I WROTE the Voting Rights Act. On a fourteener in Colorado. And it took me less than 3 hours!1!!"

You get the idea...

 

begin_within

(21,551 posts)
6. What they will do is:
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:40 AM
Sep 2012

Memorize 6 or 7 right-wing talking points.
"We're going to put Americans back to work!"
"We're going to take charge in the Middle East!"
and the other 4 or 5 will be slams against Obama.
Then at the debate, they will simply recite the talking point that seems most appropriate at each time it's their turn to speak.
They won't actually answer any questions, or actually debate anything.
It will be a slice-and-diced version of what they have been saying in the campaign.
They will seem like they are pre-recorded instead of live and actually there.
The above is what Sarah Palin did.
After the debate, right-wing pundits will praise them for being "on message."
Even though, that's not the point of the debate.
The point was to actually answer questions.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
22. I think they'll just do that with cardboard cutouts and tape recorders and no one will know the
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 12:07 PM
Sep 2012

difference.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
8. He already used "corporations are people too, my friend"
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:38 AM
Sep 2012

...So there's a pretty high bar to vault.

Maybe he can suggest an audit of Ft Knox and imply that some of the "help" has been stealing.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
11. Already been done
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:45 AM
Sep 2012

Ron Paul's Fort Knox Fever
By Robert Schmidt on June 16, 2011

...


Paul isn't so sure the nation's supply of gold is all accounted for and thinks it might not exist at all. He has introduced legislation that would require an independent count of the 5,000-plus tons of gold bullion that's sacked away in the Kentucky vault, as well as smaller amounts held in government facilities in Denver, West Point, and New York City. Paul also wants a lab to test the bars, to prove it's as pure as the U.S. Treasury Dept. says.

Paul, who has said he thinks it's possible there is no gold at Fort Knox, told Bloomberg Businessweek the government is asking the American people to trust that all the gold is there, while not allowing site visits and not publishing all the data.

As chairman of a House Financial Services subcommittee that oversees the gold stores, Paul called a hearing on the matter for June 23. ....

...


http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_26/b4234039356718.htm



 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. Romney would never be able to pull off a zinger
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:42 AM
Sep 2012

He's just not capable of it. It would come across as contrived because Romney is so inauthentic.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
14. My idea of a Romney zinger......
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:55 AM
Sep 2012

.......would be when they shake hands on stage before the debate, Romney has one of those gag shocking devices in his palm.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
18. I had to google " zinger "
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:12 AM
Sep 2012


BTW, I was sound asleep, and the stupid fire alarm went off Twice without any reason. I'll try to go back sleep again. Grrrrr

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. $10k? LOL. I get that reference. I also think you're right. 'member Palin's "Say it ain't so, Joe."
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:39 AM
Sep 2012

It'll be some kind of catchy phrase that they hope will cover the news in the days after the debate. Didn't work for Palin, because her performance was so awful.

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