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Shermann

(7,313 posts)
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:36 PM May 2020

CNN is stirring up the crazies

CNN's reporters are getting jeered at for wearing masks in the Myrtle Beach area.

This is not a good trend and appears to be more prevalent in the red states (surprise surprise).

Trump can't take all the blame for this. The MSM is making a thing out of Trump's lack of wearing a mask and there may be some partisan/anti-MSM blowback going on.

I live in this red state and don't need this action. Please stop it CNN.

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CNN is stirring up the crazies (Original Post) Shermann May 2020 OP
Right... CNN, not Trump, not Fox News, not Breitbart, not OAN, not RW congressional cretins hlthe2b May 2020 #1
Trump can't take all the blame for this. The MSM is making a thing out of Trump's lack elleng May 2020 #2
what action are u asking CNN to stop exactly? nt msongs May 2020 #3
They can report on the CDC mask recommendations Shermann May 2020 #9
You can't embarrass Donald. I don't believe CNN is the dmr May 2020 #23
No CNN isn't the problem creator Shermann May 2020 #25
Oh god. Myrtle Beach. underpants May 2020 #4
I went there around 14 years ago on vacation with two of my brothers. Blue_true May 2020 #66
We had to really search for good local restaurants underpants May 2020 #72
Yes. Good eating places were rare. Like you said, the chains like KFC seemed to be everywhere. Blue_true May 2020 #73
Is this from The Onion? n/t NanceGreggs May 2020 #5
I think you are blaming the wrong entity on this one. Thread trashed. TeamPooka May 2020 #6
If the media is at fault it is because they didn't call him out enough. CentralMass May 2020 #7
I don't think there are any more points to be scored Shermann May 2020 #14
CNN reporter is stirring up the crazies for wearing a mask? Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #8
No! BY wearing a mask. Squinch May 2020 #11
That is what I meant but maybe I phrased it wrong. The phrasing of the OP title is Eliot Rosewater May 2020 #13
So you are suggesting reporters should not wear a mask? Ms. Toad May 2020 #41
What in God's name are you talking about? I have never and would never Squinch May 2020 #74
It appeared you were agreeing with the OP, Ms. Toad May 2020 #75
No not the reporter Shermann May 2020 #16
The reporter is "catching the brunt" because Trump has continually vilified the press Tanuki May 2020 #24
It's a fair point Shermann May 2020 #26
I believe the word I used to describe the reporting was "accurate," Tanuki May 2020 #27
Ummmm...son? That's not CNN doing that. Squinch May 2020 #10
I just warned my family that we may be woodsprite May 2020 #12
There is definitely something going on Shermann May 2020 #18
How dumb is this post? Let me count the ways... Squinch May 2020 #28
"Bowling for Columbine" explored how tensions get raised by the media in this country Shermann May 2020 #29
Uh huh. So let's all leave our masks at home. Because CNN is the devil. Squinch May 2020 #46
Why would you leave your masks home? Because some assholes might get tense? jmg257 May 2020 #34
Except your mask protects their families, not your own Shermann May 2020 #35
I do have X95s so we're good there. who said anything about fists?...so good there jmg257 May 2020 #39
It protects both. Ms. Toad May 2020 #43
Thank you. Tipperary May 2020 #68
I will wear my mask anywhere I need to. Tipperary May 2020 #36
I agree with this but I will choose my battles Shermann May 2020 #37
If you don't feel comfortable wearing a mask somewhere - don't go. Ms. Toad May 2020 #67
How about those crazies, eh? Getting all riled up because some Northerners... TreasonousBastard May 2020 #15
Where did you get that from? Shermann May 2020 #20
Yeah, I read the OP. There are a lot of stupid, selfish people on this planet and... TreasonousBastard May 2020 #22
I'd bet money there are northerners on those beaches too, and plenty of Democrats. cwydro May 2020 #45
Get real. johnp3907 May 2020 #17
What is "real"? How do you define "real"? Shermann May 2020 #38
Oh boy...incipient Red Piller greenjar_01 May 2020 #50
Huh? malaise May 2020 #19
And if it is ignored will you be bitching about the media not covering it? GemDigger May 2020 #21
Maybe Shermann May 2020 #33
Your non-sequiters are legion LanternWaste May 2020 #64
I believe I've stayed on subject addressing any concerns pretty well Shermann May 2020 #70
BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! This is Red Don's fault he politicized wearing a mask he owns it PERIOD. Fuck uponit7771 May 2020 #30
Who's letting Trump off the hook? Shermann May 2020 #31
Your OP, "CNN is ... " CNN isn't doing crap those two rep misplaced onus. Also, don't live with hate uponit7771 May 2020 #42
Live with hate or die with the virus Shermann May 2020 #44
Odd you reduce your choices to two and only two possibilities LanternWaste May 2020 #65
One thing we can learn from Germany during WWII, Baitball Blogger May 2020 #32
I was in a queue to get tested Saturday... a la izquierda May 2020 #40
Blaming CNN? You've got to be kidding. cry baby May 2020 #47
Agree! Seeing a lot of these types of posts lately. SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #49
Wait What? The media is to blame? SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #48
You do realize there is a difference between "blame" and "partial blame" right? Shermann May 2020 #52
Both Sidesism! jcgoldie May 2020 #56
Nah...I compartmentalize my news sources separately from my political views. Shermann May 2020 #58
No I used the right word thank you jcgoldie May 2020 #60
So clearly demonstrating that my criticisms are balanced doesn't show fairness? Shermann May 2020 #62
Once again attacking both sides equally doesnt clearly demonstrate anything jcgoldie May 2020 #63
You slipped a weasel word in there Shermann May 2020 #69
Criticize CNN all you want this is all a game you are playing jcgoldie May 2020 #71
WTF are you talking about? jcgoldie May 2020 #51
See post 52 nt Shermann May 2020 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author jcgoldie May 2020 #55
Strange. You don't seem to like CNN much SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #54
They are the best house in a sketchy town Shermann May 2020 #57
What a manipulative post. SMC22307 May 2020 #59
There are some fair rebukes here Shermann May 2020 #61

hlthe2b

(101,534 posts)
1. Right... CNN, not Trump, not Fox News, not Breitbart, not OAN, not RW congressional cretins
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:38 PM
May 2020

are stirring up the crazies. Right....


Not on MY planet.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
9. They can report on the CDC mask recommendations
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:50 PM
May 2020

That's fine. That is newsworthy and an appropriate PSA.

However they are embarrassing Trump over his lack of mask wearing hour after hour after hour. They came up with one grainy photo of Trump with a mask and it went straight to the front page. After a certain point you cross the line between raising valid criticisms and tabloid journalism. In my opinion they crossed it.

You can make a parallel between this and Reagan's AIDS debacle I suppose, but it is a bit of a stretch and I'm not really buying into it.

dmr

(28,312 posts)
23. You can't embarrass Donald. I don't believe CNN is the
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:19 PM
May 2020

problem for people's inappropriate behavior.

They've been misbehaving long, and I mean long, before CNN started poo pooing Donald and his lack of consideration toward other people.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
25. No CNN isn't the problem creator
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:34 PM
May 2020

They're just the problem exacerbator, needlessly raising tensions. I've literally learned nothing from their mask reporting today that I didn't already know yesterday and the day before.

The Biden Army really shouldn't be circling the wagons around crappy news that happens to align with our objectives. That's what the right does. We shouldn't do that because we don't need to do that. It only serves to weaken our platform.

underpants

(182,064 posts)
4. Oh god. Myrtle Beach.
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:43 PM
May 2020

We went for free for about 10 years courtesy of my brother in law. We’d been pretty much locked in with a baby when that started.

Myrtle Beach - NORTH Myrtle no less - was an eye opener. I thought there seemed to be a lot of people from Holister wherever that is. Tattoos don’t age well. Wall to wall pop ups. They outlawed those a few years ago.


I miss the beach but not Myrtle Beach.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
66. I went there around 14 years ago on vacation with two of my brothers.
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

I found the area to be decent, though a little behind the times, the good eating places closed on Sundays. People that we dealt with were pleasant enough. Seafood dishes were pretty good, if one ignored stuff that they should never have tried to do, like New England clam chowder (you only get that done right when visiting New England itself).

underpants

(182,064 posts)
72. We had to really search for good local restaurants
Mon May 25, 2020, 01:50 PM
May 2020

Most of it was bland chains. We did the Calabash thing which I hated. I have to say I was shocked at the lack of Starbucks or even coffee places.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
73. Yes. Good eating places were rare. Like you said, the chains like KFC seemed to be everywhere.
Mon May 25, 2020, 03:40 PM
May 2020

I found a good grill place on the main highway through there at the time. It did really good grilled chicken and seafood, but closed on Sunday. I found a small place near the marshland, looked like the woman that owned it had just started up, there was a couple beside me for dinner on a Sunday, that place was good, but slow.

Anyone who go there and want good dining really need to do their homework up front before leaving home. Fine dining was weak when I was there and looked that way when you visited four years later. Maybe in the last 10 years it has gotten more available.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
14. I don't think there are any more points to be scored
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:55 PM
May 2020

Trump pays no attention. The Democrats already think Trump is a fool and pay no attention either. The story is actually quite boring. The Republicans pay little attention, just enough to get annoyed and jeer at mask-wearing neighbors like me. So that's the only effect gained from this.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,086 posts)
13. That is what I meant but maybe I phrased it wrong. The phrasing of the OP title is
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:54 PM
May 2020

of course misleading.

Better would be "Rump crazies are stirred up by the sight of a mask wearing adult"

Ms. Toad

(33,896 posts)
41. So you are suggesting reporters should not wear a mask?
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:25 AM
May 2020

Add to the risk to avoid ruffling feathers? Wearing a mask is the safe, smart, considerate thing to do - not a political statement. I think you are confused about who is making masks political.

Squinch

(50,666 posts)
74. What in God's name are you talking about? I have never and would never
Mon May 25, 2020, 05:56 PM
May 2020

advocate not wearing a mask.

Maybe read the context.

Ms. Toad

(33,896 posts)
75. It appeared you were agreeing with the OP,
Mon May 25, 2020, 06:07 PM
May 2020

who suggests in numerous places in the thread to be endorsing not wearing masks because wearing them riles up the crazies.

Glad to hear I was incorrect.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
16. No not the reporter
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:00 PM
May 2020

It's the embarrassment of Trump that may be contributing.

The reporter is just catching the brunt of it. When I saw the reporting in Myrtle Beach, it concerned me.

Tanuki

(14,887 posts)
24. The reporter is "catching the brunt" because Trump has continually vilified the press
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:28 PM
May 2020

and called the media terrible, nasty people who lie, fake their stories, are the enemy of the people, etc.etc. since well before he was eleacted. He has whipped his cult into a frenzy, and will keep it up at least until a journalist is seriously injured or killed by one of his lunatic followers. You are blaming the victim and not the perpetrator. This is a volatile situation, but it was not caused by accurate reporting of Trump's unwillingness to comply with some of the most basic guidelines promulgated by his administration's own health experts and which are necessary to even partially mitigate the effects of the pandemic.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
26. It's a fair point
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:36 PM
May 2020

However, you seem to be conceding that this is at least mildly retaliatory reporting.

Which is never the pinnacle of reporting, right?

Tanuki

(14,887 posts)
27. I believe the word I used to describe the reporting was "accurate,"
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:40 PM
May 2020

not "retaliatory." I am not conceding that at all.

woodsprite

(11,828 posts)
12. I just warned my family that we may be
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:53 PM
May 2020

Ridiculed, threatened, etc. because we intend to wear masks and fill CDC guidelines on our vacation. I see it already on the comments on the OBX, Camp Hatteras, and Ocracoke FB pages.

So far, we plan on keeping our camping reservations at Hatteras, but things can change in 3 wks or so. We camp in our fully equipped RV so there is no reason to use the bathhouse, and we intend on just using the beach at our campground (a2min walk over the dune from our camper) or the one at the lighthouse where they have really nice new bathrooms, so no portapotties. We also pack a portable shower and biodegradable soap with us to wash the sand off with before heading back to camp. So far John Hopkins data is not showing any infections on the barrier islands. Our aim is to keep it that way, but still enjoy the beach and support the local economy.

Truthfully, no matter how busy Hatteras is, it’s nothing like Rehoboth, DE. Wouldn’t head there if you paid me a million dollars.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
18. There is definitely something going on
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:07 PM
May 2020

SC is a red state to begin with. I'm pretty sure the demographic that would flock to the beach at this very moment is skewed to the right even more.

So if you are heading there, it's probably best to leave the mask and Biden cap at home.

I'm the messenger here, not the bad guy.

CNN is the best game in town but good grief.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
29. "Bowling for Columbine" explored how tensions get raised by the media in this country
Mon May 25, 2020, 09:36 AM
May 2020

I guess Michael Moore's observation was "dumb" too?

It's the same concept that is happening here, except now there is even more of a partisan twist.

Squinch

(50,666 posts)
46. Uh huh. So let's all leave our masks at home. Because CNN is the devil.
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:20 AM
May 2020

This sounds like someone... who could it be???

PS. Have you seen Michael Moore's latest? Not that bright.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
34. Why would you leave your masks home? Because some assholes might get tense?
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:03 AM
May 2020

Seems like a bad trade. Some dicks’ feelings vs your family’s safety.

Fuck em.

Of course i wouldnt be hitting the beach to begin with, but fuck em anyway.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
35. Except your mask protects their families, not your own
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:06 AM
May 2020

...unless you have the N95 masks that actually work.

I prefer to fight the good fight with my vote. If you want to run out there and fight it with your fists, good on you.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
39. I do have X95s so we're good there. who said anything about fists?...so good there
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:19 AM
May 2020

Too.

Im not gonna be intimidated by selfish pricks...not when voting, and certainly not if going to the beach.


Ms. Toad

(33,896 posts)
43. It protects both.
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:32 AM
May 2020

While it provides better protection for others, it provides some protection for the wearer as well. It is asinine to suggest that because the protection is not perfect, you should not wear it, contribute to the spread of the virus, and forfeit the protection it does offer to avoid offending idiots who believe masks are a political statement.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
36. I will wear my mask anywhere I need to.
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:07 AM
May 2020

Those people will not stop me from doing the right thing.

Ms. Toad

(33,896 posts)
67. If you don't feel comfortable wearing a mask somewhere - don't go.
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:24 PM
May 2020

If you go without a mask, you are contributing to the problem.

It's not choosing a battle. It is acting like a responsible human being.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
15. How about those crazies, eh? Getting all riled up because some Northerners...
Sun May 24, 2020, 03:57 PM
May 2020

are doing the right thing and trying to save their miserable lives.

How about putting some blame on the Myrtle Beach assholes for just acting like assholes-- themselves.

And politicians egging them on?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
22. Yeah, I read the OP. There are a lot of stupid, selfish people on this planet and...
Sun May 24, 2020, 04:16 PM
May 2020

exposing them as idiots shouldn't stop simply because it might make a few more idiots crawl out from the woodwork.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
45. I'd bet money there are northerners on those beaches too, and plenty of Democrats.
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:40 AM
May 2020

Every time I visit Myrtle, I run into more northerners and Canadians than southerners.

It's a favorite destination for Charlotteans too, many of whom are liberals - it's a blue city.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
50. Oh boy...incipient Red Piller
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:35 AM
May 2020

The correct volume of eyerolls for this nonsense don't exist.

Grow up.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
33. Maybe
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:02 AM
May 2020

...but what I won't do is embrace lazy reporting that just happens to align with my political bias.

That's what the right does.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
64. Your non-sequiters are legion
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:19 PM
May 2020

And judging from the consistency of your responses in this thread, "that's what you do"

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
70. I believe I've stayed on subject addressing any concerns pretty well
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:43 PM
May 2020

I'm sort of having to jump from strawman to strawman though.

uponit7771

(90,193 posts)
30. BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! This is Red Don's fault he politicized wearing a mask he owns it PERIOD. Fuck
Mon May 25, 2020, 09:44 AM
May 2020

... that letting him off the hook shit.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
31. Who's letting Trump off the hook?
Mon May 25, 2020, 09:56 AM
May 2020

He's the root cause of most of what is going on.

At the end of the day though, what matters most is the overall virus R-naught value. The more masks that are worn, the more it goes down.

Every time CNN takes a cheap shot at Trump's unmasked face, somewhere a conservative takes their mask off in protest.

We have to find a way to coexist with these people.

uponit7771

(90,193 posts)
42. Your OP, "CNN is ... " CNN isn't doing crap those two rep misplaced onus. Also, don't live with hate
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:31 AM
May 2020

... and stupid, my expectations are too high.

Expose it quick fast and let come what may

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
65. Odd you reduce your choices to two and only two possibilities
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:21 PM
May 2020

Are you simply unwilling to perceive additional possibilities, or is that merely a limitation inherent to you?

Baitball Blogger

(46,532 posts)
32. One thing we can learn from Germany during WWII,
Mon May 25, 2020, 09:59 AM
May 2020

all those sentiments that Hitler tapped into, were already there. He didn't create the prejudices and hatred. He just gave them permission to express it in the most heinous ways.

What we need is laws that will protect us.

a la izquierda

(11,782 posts)
40. I was in a queue to get tested Saturday...
Mon May 25, 2020, 10:20 AM
May 2020

And idiots in pickup trucks where “baa-ing” at us. The young National Guard dude just shook his head.

This is in West Virginia, where our government has done a reasonably good job with the virus.

cry baby

(6,682 posts)
47. Blaming CNN? You've got to be kidding.
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:25 AM
May 2020

Not blaming president putrescence is absurd! He is the leader of the resistance to his own policies.

Get real.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
48. Wait What? The media is to blame?
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:26 AM
May 2020

Why is the media to blame for reporting that Trump refuses to wear a mask (and then sometimes wears one)?

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
52. You do realize there is a difference between "blame" and "partial blame" right?
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:41 AM
May 2020

Did you read the OP? Blaming strictly one side or the other is a false dichotomy.

So what's the point of mask-shaming if it has a paradoxical effect and results in fewer masks being worn? Isn't that self-defeating? Do we get to claim a moral victory with our last breaths before being hooked to ventilators? I'll pass.

Again, we need to find a way to coexist with these people. I don't know that singling out individuals (including presidents) for mask-shaming is the way forward.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
58. Nah...I compartmentalize my news sources separately from my political views.
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

Also I think "equivocation" is the word you're looking for.

jcgoldie

(11,566 posts)
60. No I used the right word thank you
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:55 AM
May 2020

And blaming CNN because rednecks react like fools to people wearing PPE is completely stupid.... on the level of "she must have been asking for it look at what she's wearing!" Oh and "but I was even more critical of fox news" does not somehow make you "fair and balanced."

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
62. So clearly demonstrating that my criticisms are balanced doesn't show fairness?
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:11 PM
May 2020

That's interesting. How does that work exactly? Am I supposed to be defending CNN at all costs?

jcgoldie

(11,566 posts)
63. Once again attacking both sides equally doesnt clearly demonstrate anything
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:15 PM
May 2020

Except trolling DU it seems.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
69. You slipped a weasel word in there
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:34 PM
May 2020

I don't attack CNN and FXN "equally". I've been hitting FXN much harder. Much much harder. I would say that I attack FXN proportionally to their shoddy coverage. It's balanced that way, but certainly not "equal".

I just don't see my occasional criticism of CNN as being "trolling" (despite it being panned).

Win some lose some I guess.

jcgoldie

(11,566 posts)
71. Criticize CNN all you want this is all a game you are playing
Mon May 25, 2020, 01:35 PM
May 2020

Your argument that CNN is somehow even remotely to blame for ignorant people reacting stupidly to people wearing masks is what is disingenuous trolling here.

jcgoldie

(11,566 posts)
51. WTF are you talking about?
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:38 AM
May 2020

Blame the media for Trump turning a public health issue into a political one? Yeah that makes perfect sense.

Response to Shermann (Reply #53)

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
57. They are the best house in a sketchy town
Mon May 25, 2020, 11:48 AM
May 2020

I'm a critic at heart but fair I think. Did you research my posts on Fox News? I'm even more critical of them.

The OANN thread was more of an amusing observation than anything.

I have been very critical of Jim Acosta of late and stand by my previous statements.

Thanks for reading my threads at least.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
61. There are some fair rebukes here
Mon May 25, 2020, 12:00 PM
May 2020

...but many strawman arguments too.

Trump has a plausible excuse. The CDC only advises masks when social distancing can't be observed. He's pushing it but can make this claim. Also he gets tested frequently. Lets not forget that Fauci used this same justification when challenged in the same way. Now Fauci has moved on to wearing a mask more frequently while Trump hasn't. Personally I don't like Trump's messaging here but feel the media should move on to more pressing matters.

So everybody approves of CNN's presidential mask coverage then? It's all good?

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