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IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:01 AM May 2020

A white woman has apologized after calling police on a black man

A white woman has apologized after calling police on a black man and saying 'there's an African American man threatening my life'

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/us/central-park-video-dog-video-african-american-trnd/index.html

A white woman has apologized for calling police on a black man in Central Park on Monday, after the two argued about her unleashed dog.

Amy Cooper told CNN she wanted to "publicly apologize to everyone."
"I'm not a racist. I did not mean to harm that man in any way," she said, adding that she also didn't mean any harm to the African American community.

She was walking her dog Monday while Christian Cooper was bird watching at a wooded area of Central Park called the Ramble.
Amy Cooper and Christian Cooper are not related.
They both told CNN the dispute began because Amy Cooper's dog was not on a leash. Dogs are supposed to be leashed at all times in the Ramble, according to the park's website.

The dog has been surrendered to the shelter he was adopted from days earlier while the dispute is addressed, according to a Facebook post from Abandoned Angels Cocker Spaniel Rescue, Inc.
"The dog is now in our rescue's care and he is safe and in good health," the post said.


Lots more info at the link to videos and social media posts with updates on the situation.

I'm glad the dog was taken from her and that nothing bad happened to Christian Cooper. There may be a straightjacket and a padded cell for Amy Cooper some day. It's interesting that they are both named Cooper. It's also interesting that she's a Canadian immigrant. Maybe they're not sending their best people.
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A white woman has apologized after calling police on a black man (Original Post) IronLionZion May 2020 OP
She is probably gonna lose her job. She is now on admin. leave. 3Hotdogs May 2020 #1
"I'm not a racist. I did not mean to harm that man in any way." no_hypocrisy May 2020 #2
+1. She really tried to give him the death penalty for talking out of turn dalton99a May 2020 #3
She got called out on her antisocial behavior--the lack of a leash. Laelth May 2020 #4
Excellent post oswaldactedalone May 2020 #7
Thank you. Laelth May 2020 #8
And this situation could have escalated to another Central Park Jogger scenario. no_hypocrisy May 2020 #11
Absolutely. Laelth May 2020 #13
That wasn't actually the Central Park jogger scenario greenjar_01 May 2020 #14
My point is that the main essentials of a white woman being "attacked" by a black man in no_hypocrisy May 2020 #15
OK, but the Central Park jogger really was attacked greenjar_01 May 2020 #16
I understand why I need to clarify. no_hypocrisy May 2020 #17
There was a mix of black and Latinx teenagers greenjar_01 May 2020 #20
Yikes! Scary stats: 1/8 LeftInTX May 2020 #39
I'm glad the dog was taken from her. panader0 May 2020 #5
A dog doesn't have to cost much to maintain IronLionZion May 2020 #18
Doesn't change what she did... 2naSalit May 2020 #6
As a Canadian, please don't send her back, don't want her here! donkeypoofed May 2020 #9
Most Canadians I've met are quite nice and polite IronLionZion May 2020 #21
She's still lying. yardwork May 2020 #10
Leash laws exist for a reason. Some people still let their dogs run free. MineralMan May 2020 #12
She won't learn from it, more's the pity Boomer May 2020 #28
You're probably right. MineralMan May 2020 #30
My next door neighbor had a large, part Rottweiler dog she refused to leash LeftInTX May 2020 #40
My next door neighbor has a small dog. A Shittypoo, or something like that. MineralMan May 2020 #42
Shittypoo LeftInTX May 2020 #44
No fenced backyard for her. MineralMan May 2020 #45
I doubt she is mentally ill considering she worked for a fortune 500 company JonLP24 May 2020 #19
LOL greenjar_01 May 2020 #22
Plenty of wealthy executives are sociopaths IronLionZion May 2020 #24
I consider sociopathy to be a personality disorder JonLP24 May 2020 #33
But racism does make you mentally ill. RVN VET71 May 2020 #25
When I worked for one right out of college there were more mentally ill people redstatebluegirl May 2020 #27
She is sorry about getting caught on camera. muntrv May 2020 #23
Precisely. And that's ALL she's sorry about. n/t Laelth May 2020 #29
I'm happy he recorded this encounter, because dmr May 2020 #26
They took her dog? Johnny2X2X May 2020 #31
She was abusing the poor dog IronLionZion May 2020 #32
Did you watch the video? MoonchildCA May 2020 #34
I see that now Johnny2X2X May 2020 #38
She adopted the dog from a Cocker Spaniel rescue/foster agency. LeftInTX May 2020 #43
The dog suffered a few of other unfortunate incidents while in her care of which she posted on LisaL May 2020 #47
In the beginning of the video, she attempts do attach the leash to the dog's collar. LisaL May 2020 #49
Her actions were so REFLEXIVE that denying her racism is just bullshit. Goodheart May 2020 #35
karen has a sad. fuck her. nt Javaman May 2020 #36
I've done what Mr. Cooper did. cab67 May 2020 #37
Is she still employed? matt819 May 2020 #41
Administrative Leave IronLionZion May 2020 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2020 #48

3Hotdogs

(12,372 posts)
1. She is probably gonna lose her job. She is now on admin. leave.
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:13 AM
May 2020

I guess she will be leaving shortly to return to Canada. No need for immigration hearing for deportation.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
2. "I'm not a racist. I did not mean to harm that man in any way."
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:25 AM
May 2020

Then why did you call 9-1-1 Karen? Emergency African-American in a public park crisis? Knowing your word over his when the police arrived, resulting in a possible arrest, trial, and conviction -- not to mention a permanent record when he applies for a job?

Not to mention, YOU were breaking the law, not Mr. Cooper.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. She got called out on her antisocial behavior--the lack of a leash.
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:42 AM
May 2020

She overreacted. She went for the jugular with no sense of perspective and no care for the damage she was doing to an innocent human being. She was rightly ashamed, and she couldn’t stand that feeling, so she converted her shame into anger and then took out her anger on the person who made her feel shame.

This is typical behavior for a person with a Cluster B personality disorder. That’s really all it is, and it’s far more common than we want to believe.

As many as 1 in every 8 humans suffers from a Cluster B personality disorder.

-Laelth

oswaldactedalone

(3,490 posts)
7. Excellent post
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:00 AM
May 2020

I'll be researching Cluster B personality disorder. Somehow, I think I'll find the term "clusterfuck" in there somewhere.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
11. And this situation could have escalated to another Central Park Jogger scenario.
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:17 AM
May 2020

She could have had him arrested and he would have had to make bail -- after being in a prison laden with Corona Virus.

Then, the New York City newspapers, esp. the Daily News and the New York Post, would have had a field day with this story. She would be the victim and he would be the "black predator".

Even were the situation to be resolved in his favor, almost nobody would care that the story was fabricated.

Thank God for cell phones.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
13. Absolutely.
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:20 AM
May 2020

People with Cluster B personality disorders are dangerous. They are practiced liars. They are highly vengeful. Donald Trump is an advanced case.

-Laelth

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
15. My point is that the main essentials of a white woman being "attacked" by a black man in
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:23 AM
May 2020

Central Park would be enough for the media to be off to the races.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
16. OK, but the Central Park jogger really was attacked
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:26 AM
May 2020

(not by a black man).

I'm just not sure I buy your analogy.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
17. I understand why I need to clarify.
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:28 AM
May 2020

I meant figuratively, not literally.

And I seem to remember it was Hispanic teenage boys who were accused of "wilding" that night.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
20. There was a mix of black and Latinx teenagers
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:37 AM
May 2020

Most of them were actually in the park getting up to mischief, some of it violent. This sort of thing was not uncommon in NYC at the time, among teenagers of all races.

Trisha Melli was attacked by a serial rapist (and, later, murderer) named Matias Reyes who had been active in vicious predatory crimes for several months at the time. He is a 100% DNA match. The only thing I question about Reyes' confession is how he claims to have attacked Melli. He says he followed her and got either in front of or beside her and hit her with a tree branch. She was running 8 minute miles. It's not blazing fast, but your average non-runner is not going to maintain an 8 minute mile pace for much distance at all. I don't buy that a shlub like Reyes, even at his young age, was going to keep pace with Melli for any distance, much less get in front of her. That part of his story makes zero sense.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
5. I'm glad the dog was taken from her.
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:49 AM
May 2020

I watched the video and I would never handle a dog the way she did.
I wish I could afford a dog.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
18. A dog doesn't have to cost much to maintain
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:32 AM
May 2020

are you worried about medical costs? People of all income levels have dogs.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
6. Doesn't change what she did...
Tue May 26, 2020, 08:56 AM
May 2020

And she did it with intent to harm an innocent person. Fuck her, she needs to suffer the consequences of her shitty mind and the actions she took in doing what she did. She's only sorry and apologizing because she got caught being the asshole that she is. Her white privilege ends now and she's only sorry about that. It's not like she did that without knowing that she could either destroy that man's life or get him killed.

Fuck her, I hope he sues the shit out of her and then she gets deported with no option to return to the US.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
9. As a Canadian, please don't send her back, don't want her here!
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:11 AM
May 2020

I am mortified that woman is a Canadian. She's an embarrassment to us.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
12. Leash laws exist for a reason. Some people still let their dogs run free.
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:18 AM
May 2020

People who do that believe themselves and their dogs to be above the law. They know their dog should be on a leash. Most carry a leash because they know that. It's there, you know, "just in case..."

What is unsurprising is that that woman got all bent out of shape when reminded of that law by another person in that park. A black person telling her what to do was simply more than she could stand. So, she called 911, because "an African American man is attacking me..."

Her needs and wants were superior in her mind to anything else. She doesn't like leashing her dog, so she doesn't do it, despite the perfectly reasonable law requiring dogs to be on leash in the park. She doesn't like black men telling her what to do, so she calls the cops on them if they remind her that she should leash her dog.

Privilege being exercised as she exercised it is toxic to society. She is now learning that the society sometimes will not tolerate the behavior she exhibited. That will either give her a lesson to remember or make her even angrier at herloss of privilege.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
28. She won't learn from it, more's the pity
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:47 AM
May 2020

But I'm betting she'll lose her job.

Fortune 500 companies HATE bad PR, and such overt displays of racism are anathema as well. She's now a toxic employee, at a high-level managerial role. It would be difficult to justify keeping her.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
40. My next door neighbor had a large, part Rottweiler dog she refused to leash
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:55 AM
May 2020

She is an entitled white privilege type.

She would always say, "He goes nuts if he is confined and the only other option is to put him to sleep". (AKA "we would rather put him to sleep than train him. but if you insist then it is your fault not our's".)

He was a "rescue" that her son found and dumped on her. Of course, her dog decided to use my yard for his toilet. And he was a big dog etc. He was not a nice dog either.

I was so relieved when that dog died.

When we have water restrictions, she runs her sprinklers during the day and says, "This is our water, we are paying for it, we can do what we want with it".

The laws don't apply to her

BTW: Her name is Karen...LOL And she fits the stereotype.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
42. My next door neighbor has a small dog. A Shittypoo, or something like that.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:07 AM
May 2020

No leash. She just lets it out the door when it needs to "potty," as she puts it.

Yappy little dog. It runs around like crazy, barking furiously at everyone and every dog it encounters. I trained it not to bark at me, my wife, or my dogs in just two days, using treats and belly rubs to get it to calm down.

The little dog runs across the street, and up and down the block, and will not come when my neighbor calls it. It comes when I call it, because of treats and belly rubs. Pisses my neighbor off when I call it and it comes running after she has screamed at it multiple times. Apparently she never noticed me training her dog to do what I ask.

It will get hit by a car one day, no doubt, since it dashes into the street without paying any attention to traffic. When that happens, it will take all of the patience i can muster not to remind her about leashes.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
44. Shittypoo
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:21 AM
May 2020


Does she have a fenced backyard?

One thing good about Texas, is we have fenced backyards. We had a chihuahua, which didn't have a desire to leave our backyard. Our neighbor with the big dog, just didn't want her own dog messing her backyard.

Small dogs don't feel safe in wide open spaces.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
45. No fenced backyard for her.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:29 AM
May 2020

I have a fenced backyard and a dog flap in the back wall of the house. The dogs go in and out as they please. We didn't get a dog until I had built the chain link fence around the back yard. There's a little doggy deck with steps just outside of the dog flap.

At least four times a year, I put a stray dog in the fenced yard until I call its owner if there's a name and phone number on its collar. Our two beagley dogs think their guest is a wonderful thing and enjoy the visits. If there's no name on a tag, my wife posts that we found a stray and have it on one of the neighborhood websites and someone always shows up to pick it up.

I all all something-poo dogs "shittypoos." I dislike small, yappy dogs quite a bit, really. However, they all seem to love me, since I always have a few little liver treats in my pocket.

Most back yards here are fenced. Most houses have a dog or two, as well.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
19. I doubt she is mentally ill considering she worked for a fortune 500 company
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:36 AM
May 2020

Mental illness doesn't make you racist.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
24. Plenty of wealthy executives are sociopaths
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:43 AM
May 2020

we have one in the White House who may need to be locked up.

She may have some issues, but it doesn't excuse her racism or her animal abuse.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
33. I consider sociopathy to be a personality disorder
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:26 AM
May 2020

Mental illness is closer to what I have. PTSD/Depression/Anxiety.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
25. But racism does make you mentally ill.
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:44 AM
May 2020

Also, you don't have to be mentally ill to work for a Fortune 500 company, but in some cases . . . .

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
27. When I worked for one right out of college there were more mentally ill people
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:46 AM
May 2020

than I ever saw anywhere else I worked over 40 years. Especially in the top two floors full of executives and lawyers. If you really want to see mental illness look at middle managers who want an office upstairs and will do anything to get there.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
26. I'm happy he recorded this encounter, because
Tue May 26, 2020, 09:46 AM
May 2020

If he hadn't I don't want to even think about how this could have unfairly and unjustly escalated.

Mr. Cooper sounds like a good man. A gentle soul.

I love to patiently bird watch, too.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
31. They took her dog?
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:16 AM
May 2020

Why? You get your dog seized for not having it on a leash in NYC? That's terrible.

This woman made a terrible mistake and may be a terrible person, but she doesn't deserve to lose her dog IMO.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
32. She was abusing the poor dog
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:21 AM
May 2020

choking the poor fellow violently in the video and he was visibly distressed. And the dog seemed to have a long history of injuries under her watch, so it looks very suspicious.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
34. Did you watch the video?
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:27 AM
May 2020

She was jerking and whipping the dog all around during her tirade. It was as hard to watch as the rest of it.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
38. I see that now
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:40 AM
May 2020

Yeah, this dog deserves a better owner. What the hell was she thinking? She's an idiot.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
43. She adopted the dog from a Cocker Spaniel rescue/foster agency.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:08 AM
May 2020

They are real strict about placement etc. And they are strict about follow up.

It doesn't surprise me.

My MIL adopted a Yorkie-Poo from an agency. It was almost like adopting a human. They came out and did numerous interviews and home visits.

If she had just found the dog as a stray I don't know what would have happened.

There is is a good chance that she will never be able to adopt a dog from an agency again. She is marked..she won't be able to adopt from the Humane Society either.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
47. The dog suffered a few of other unfortunate incidents while in her care of which she posted on
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:36 AM
May 2020

social media.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
49. In the beginning of the video, she attempts do attach the leash to the dog's collar.
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:38 AM
May 2020

For whatever reason, she didn't do it, and then she was dragging the dog by the collar, resulting in dog's upper body being lifted up and dog being visibly uncomfortable.

Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
35. Her actions were so REFLEXIVE that denying her racism is just bullshit.
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:30 AM
May 2020

What she should have said now is: "I apologize to the man and to the entire African American community. I recognize that I'm a racist, and I will seek help immediately to cure myself of that nasty affliction."

cab67

(2,992 posts)
37. I've done what Mr. Cooper did.
Tue May 26, 2020, 10:38 AM
May 2020

I'm a birder. I've occasionally asked people accompanied by unleashed dogs to please put the dogs on a leash, as posted all over the park - especially if the dog is rambunctious and running everywhere. I'm not afraid of the dog, but the birds very well might be. They leave.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
41. Is she still employed?
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:01 AM
May 2020

I'm all for Canadians, in and out of Canada. But how did she get to work here? Aren't there any Americans qualified to do the work she does? How many immigrants work at Templeton? Asking for the 30 million newly unemployed.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
46. Administrative Leave
Tue May 26, 2020, 11:32 AM
May 2020

I'd be interested in seeing if the Trump administration still puts America first when it's a white foreigner vs a black American. Also the dog is American and a victim of her abuse.

I haven't seen anything about her visa or citizenship status but Canadians have been deported from the US if they commit crimes here.

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