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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt looks like the media are thwarting the MAGA instigators' plans
They obviously intended to wreak havoc and sow so much confusion that the public would just assume the protesters were out of control. But, to their great credit, reporters are on the ground - many risking their safety - and telling the story in real time. They are taking great pains to clearly delineate what is happening and who is doing what.
As a result, the public is getting a clear look at what is actually happening and is much less likely to get caught up in hating on the protesters but are instead seeing a clear distinction between the peaceful protests and the MAGA thugs threatening people and destroying property.
I don't think this is how the disrupters and their handlers expected this all to go down.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)elleng
(130,751 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,168 posts).
The media is playing a part, as well as private citizens recording these events.
These fascists wanted a police state and now they have that panopticon, where the state can monitor and track you the way Britain can track people walking blocks away to their vehicles. It takes a little extra effort, but most new cities can track people everywhere. They hop in their cars and the license plate scanners record their vehicle movements. There are a pile of resources that can reinforce the arrest.
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LizBeth
(9,952 posts)these white supremacists. I had FB people angry at the protesters and have spent a lot of today putting up articles about whatever these morons are called. It has really shifted my people opinion. They are on protesters side. They are not into the looting. Yesterday I started with Gov and Mayor of St Paul and have been able to back that up today with many articles out there.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)some of the links to the articles.
I've got a lot of opinions to shift....
Thanks!
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)https://www.techtransparencyproject.org/articles/extremists-are-using-facebook-to-organize-for-civil-war-amid-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR1iqet-qlB6P4HSaahI1g-a3B_eGDjLlmQM2l8AI-3-SLRfTEqqaEQ4O1I
https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/05/31/white-extremists-terrorize-and-loot-10-videos-of-destruction-bl.html?fbclid=IwAR2aRN43Bp_mC9qgfebcaix0hsLJq9zrFs1XH9x7AsYqSJJyZ8jpMol4Gwk
https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/?fbclid=IwAR14lOnJqKnGvhCoon_oZ6V-7Kho2488bVTk4yTn0gx9jnE_9eWGafemQi8
Link to tweet
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1267087319414292481&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F100213513993&fbclid=IwAR1kPqflF0NCczlZ_ge0o3tSnVdg1Xv9lqlwSbeKxo4J0Nz7gthAxpSCQwA
https://deadstate.org/black-woman-confronts-non-black-woman-for-spray-painting-blm-on-storefront-theyll-blame-that-on-us/?fbclid=IwAR1itZ6Kp-si30YE--jHVG8LstfJdgYiBJU6yZjNDp7rlDX6sskzMeeWEdk
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/protesters-violence-george-floyd?fbclid=IwAR3H3qtI6U0K2B4294lWh6uPBC8zUpI4WQy71A53iC0rL8tUhM_UFU7Jc64
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/pkyb9b/far-right-extremists-are-hoping-to-turn-the-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war?fbclid=IwAR2sDZjeq6FdcqZSWzAiwM5PDiauRbzZxobL4ifaz2gU-pKGKzqESqnv4sA
Link to tweet
?fbclid=IwAR3KAFcicp-XMioQBKw2wLgrDDfdA13f-lATrsDldXfUUGywnndOklK3gw4
You've done a lot of research!!
crickets
(25,952 posts)Cha
(296,868 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Link to tweet
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LizBeth
(9,952 posts)St Paul police said they have investigated and it is not the same man. So I do not use that. As far as I am concerned up in the air cause I do not believe shit.
AllyCat
(16,152 posts)cally
(21,591 posts)so all notice all the great research. Thanks for the links!
barbtries
(28,769 posts)but here's a long thread with multiple instances including photos and video of police misconduct during the protests.
Link to tweet
?fbclid=IwAR0l1KN8T8tJKZcqmTMlIuiOrm2D94-n00cX3l5Bj4Z-zCz_cWZy_XeaT9Y
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)barbtries
(28,769 posts)They're brutalizing with impunity. We're in peril.
Walleye
(30,984 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)sheshe2
(83,655 posts)sheshe2
(83,655 posts)Progressive Law
(617 posts)No evidence of that claims, but he kept repeating it every 5 minutes.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)I kept turning to it to see what they were saying, and they did have some reporters on the scene who got great footage, but the anchors especially were completely driven by ideology. I never watch Fox11, so I had no idea they were as bad as their cable counterpart.
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)Let's make the idiots think they are really white supremacists.
I know ... Fox news
ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)As well as the police chief, aBlack woman named Carmen Best, gave a joint press conference that managed to separate and support the peaceful protesters from the ones causing mayhem.
Ever patient I had today, (I was the charge for our dialysis team)supported the cause and condemned the violence and thought those murderous cops needed to be locked up. I dont initiate these conversations, but this was unusual.
For whats worth I have a friend who filmed cars being lit on fire Last night as well as another friend who participated in the clean up today.
Cha
(296,868 posts)letting those of us know who don't have a tv or are not watching.
certainot
(9,090 posts)our ears to to listen to it and our 'leadership' don't realize how bad it's kicking our ass
Duppers
(28,117 posts)The Oval Office. Then we Dems must have the guts to change things. Bring back the Fairness Doctrine.
We must never again play Mr. Nice Guy when we're faced with such a destructive force as these treasonous saboteurs of democracy.
Those 1500 radio stations cannot continue to be allowed to spout that propaganda. Lose their licenses? But doesn't free speech allow lies to be broadcast? Did we allow Nazi propaganda broadcasts? We're facing the same thing now.
We must VOTE in November.
certainot
(9,090 posts)be expected even with supermajorities because a lot of the free speech purists apply it wrongly and freak out and a lot of the necessary players think fox is the problem
once every advertiser on every rw station gets asked if they actually support trump etc many will head for the hills. to avoid that the ad industry will start to democratize it. along with imbaugh's imminent croaking many of those stations will change programming. protests at a few of the 87 universities that support rw radio can start that.
if a few of those schools were forced into public discussions of why they support radio stations that are making excuses for the racism that most of their student athletes are hit with every day, others would follow and pretty soon advertisers would abandon those stations and the ad industry would have to break up the 30 year monopoly at the heart of this disaster.
all it would take is someone like reich to mention talk radio once in a while, or maybe michael moore can ask why u of michigan and michigan state support 18!!!! fucking limbaugh stations while they make excuses for lead in the water and calll kneeling athletes traitors.
the GOP will lose the only unique advantage it has. without it mcconnell and many republican senators will lose. even before the elections they might end support of trump if they know those stations won't be there to attack them if they turn on him or excuse their licking of trumps private parts for 3 years
all americans have to do is convince the ad industry that boycotts and blame is coming at the advertisers and universities that sponsored and endorsed 3 months of covid denial and the death and economic disaster that denial is causing. the ad industry is already facing having to replace a dying limbaugh - the guy the whole talk radio monopoly was built around. when they have to preemptively start asking their clients if they really support trump etc they know they're going to lose a lot of clients. instead they can use limbaugh's impending death as an excuse to force democratization of talk radio. 600 of our loudest stations depend on limbaugh and they can't replace him, and they want those ears.
that will destroy it as a propaganda operation and most of the rest of the RW media will fall apart with it
RW talk radio monopoly a free speech free ride, as if 95% of americans prefer that racism, global warming and covid denial, stupidity, and lies
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)This has nothing to do with protesting.
It is criminals doing crime.
Watching local news.
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)SunSeeker
(51,518 posts)Local news got it all on camera, pointing out the looting occured at Pike Outlets while the police were distracted by the actual protesters several blocks away at Pine & Ocean Ave.
Same in Santa Monica, CA. A camera crew came upon looters going into a store from a back alley entrance behind Third Street Promenade. When the looters realized they were being filmed by TV cameras they threw smoke bombs between themselves and the cameras, then took off.
What was evident is the police were in force where the protesters were, leaving the looters free reign away from the protest locations.
murielm99
(30,717 posts)They can hear the sirens and helicopters.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)next to a Democratic Party headquarters, or are bedding down behind a dumpster at Best Buys, I wouldn't worry. The sounds make it more real and interesting than hearing about it on on a newscast, without being more dangerous.
Hekate
(90,563 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Hortensis
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keithbvadu2
(36,669 posts)Some of the rioters in different cities are light skinned
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Passing?
https://imgur.com/gallery/E1Ik0Ra
https://imgur.com/gallery/6a8JxK7
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Anyone know what group he is affiliated with?
WinstonSmith4740
(3,055 posts)That "Blue Line" has always been a big part of this problem...that "brotherhood" that covered up all the bullshit. Police and sheriff's departments breaking ranks over this is a really big deal.
The revolution may indeed be starting.
mcar
(42,278 posts)Also, those who posted videos on social media clearly showing MAGA disruptors while peaceful protesters begged them to stop.