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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:16 AM Jun 2020

It looks like the media are thwarting the MAGA instigators' plans

They obviously intended to wreak havoc and sow so much confusion that the public would just assume the protesters were out of control. But, to their great credit, reporters are on the ground - many risking their safety - and telling the story in real time. They are taking great pains to clearly delineate what is happening and who is doing what.

As a result, the public is getting a clear look at what is actually happening and is much less likely to get caught up in hating on the protesters but are instead seeing a clear distinction between the peaceful protests and the MAGA thugs threatening people and destroying property.

I don't think this is how the disrupters and their handlers expected this all to go down.

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It looks like the media are thwarting the MAGA instigators' plans (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jun 2020 OP
Hear, hear! (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2020 #1
Good work! elleng Jun 2020 #2
Yep. Security cameras everywhere, Cellphone cameras, GPS tracking phones will just help to convict. TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #32
Plenty of articles out there for us to get it out to the people that shift from protesters to LizBeth Jun 2020 #3
It would be helpful if you could share Sogo Jun 2020 #6
Here is some I have posted. LizBeth Jun 2020 #9
Thanks! Sogo Jun 2020 #10
Excellent links - thanks for sharing all of those! nt crickets Jun 2020 #11
Mahalo, LB.. Retweeted this one.. along with Thousands of other People. Cha Jun 2020 #15
Here's the same with a post "xwife IDs husband policeman" Thekaspervote Jun 2020 #22
There is question if that is true so I do not use that anymore. I had to put a clarification up. LizBeth Jun 2020 #30
Surprise, surprise. Once again, white people not listening to black voices. AllyCat Jun 2020 #24
Please put this in a separate thread cally Jun 2020 #29
i don't know if you use twitter, barbtries Jun 2020 #17
Wow. How can that be legal in any sense? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2020 #41
I don't believe it is. barbtries Jun 2020 #42
Journalists! Essential workers Walleye Jun 2020 #4
KNR Lucinda Jun 2020 #5
Fake news! sheshe2 Jun 2020 #7
Fake news! sheshe2 Jun 2020 #8
On Los Angeles Fox11 local news, the on-air talent kept saying that the looters were AntiFa members. Progressive Law Jun 2020 #12
Their coverage was despicable. tishaLA Jun 2020 #16
Antifa isn't real ... relayerbob Jun 2020 #19
The major of Seattle Jenny Durkan ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #13
That's really good to know.. TY you for Cha Jun 2020 #14
left will allow 1500 radio stations to interpret this for as long as they want. it hurts certainot Jun 2020 #18
Hands are tied until we have both houses & Duppers Jun 2020 #26
needs to happen sooner. voting olone is not enough and a new fairness doctrine can't certainot Jun 2020 #28
Gangs In Seattle Went To Bellevue Mall And Southcenter And Looted Stores DanieRains Jun 2020 #20
This!! Thekaspervote Jun 2020 #23
Same in Long Beach, CA. They were organized theft rings with getaway drivers waiting. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #25
My daughter lives a few miles north of there. murielm99 Jun 2020 #27
:) A mile is a miss. Unless they live on a major boulevard, Hortensis Jun 2020 #34
KnR Hekate Jun 2020 #21
Well, MAGAts are stupid, so.... MoonRiver Jun 2020 #31
Yes. Important and worth noting. nt Hortensis Jun 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author BrightKnight Jun 2020 #35
Some of the rioters in different cities are light skinned.... keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #36
He turned himself in about 5Pm today tiredtoo Jun 2020 #39
I've also been more than surprised by some police departments. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2020 #37
I salute the media for getting on this so quickly mcar Jun 2020 #38
Agree n/t Kitchari Jun 2020 #40

TheBlackAdder

(28,168 posts)
32. Yep. Security cameras everywhere, Cellphone cameras, GPS tracking phones will just help to convict.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jun 2020

.

The media is playing a part, as well as private citizens recording these events.

These fascists wanted a police state and now they have that panopticon, where the state can monitor and track you the way Britain can track people walking blocks away to their vehicles. It takes a little extra effort, but most new cities can track people everywhere. They hop in their cars and the license plate scanners record their vehicle movements. There are a pile of resources that can reinforce the arrest.

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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
3. Plenty of articles out there for us to get it out to the people that shift from protesters to
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:24 AM
Jun 2020

these white supremacists. I had FB people angry at the protesters and have spent a lot of today putting up articles about whatever these morons are called. It has really shifted my people opinion. They are on protesters side. They are not into the looting. Yesterday I started with Gov and Mayor of St Paul and have been able to back that up today with many articles out there.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
6. It would be helpful if you could share
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:32 AM
Jun 2020

some of the links to the articles.

I've got a lot of opinions to shift....

Thanks!

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
9. Here is some I have posted.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:53 AM
Jun 2020
https://www.wonkette.com/something-is-definitely-up-with-all-the-white-people-doing-vandalism-at-the-george-floyd-protests?fbclid=IwAR2o-XVv6wCh4-02ie2KyovY0x2m-zJzrGuekALQQ1E3IG7kNtN8Rte4i3E

https://www.techtransparencyproject.org/articles/extremists-are-using-facebook-to-organize-for-civil-war-amid-coronavirus?fbclid=IwAR1iqet-qlB6P4HSaahI1g-a3B_eGDjLlmQM2l8AI-3-SLRfTEqqaEQ4O1I

https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/05/31/white-extremists-terrorize-and-loot-10-videos-of-destruction-bl.html?fbclid=IwAR2aRN43Bp_mC9qgfebcaix0hsLJq9zrFs1XH9x7AsYqSJJyZ8jpMol4Gwk

https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/?fbclid=IwAR14lOnJqKnGvhCoon_oZ6V-7Kho2488bVTk4yTn0gx9jnE_9eWGafemQi8


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1267087319414292481&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F100213513993&fbclid=IwAR1kPqflF0NCczlZ_ge0o3tSnVdg1Xv9lqlwSbeKxo4J0Nz7gthAxpSCQwA

https://deadstate.org/black-woman-confronts-non-black-woman-for-spray-painting-blm-on-storefront-theyll-blame-that-on-us/?fbclid=IwAR1itZ6Kp-si30YE--jHVG8LstfJdgYiBJU6yZjNDp7rlDX6sskzMeeWEdk

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/protesters-violence-george-floyd?fbclid=IwAR3H3qtI6U0K2B4294lWh6uPBC8zUpI4WQy71A53iC0rL8tUhM_UFU7Jc64

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/pkyb9b/far-right-extremists-are-hoping-to-turn-the-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war?fbclid=IwAR2sDZjeq6FdcqZSWzAiwM5PDiauRbzZxobL4ifaz2gU-pKGKzqESqnv4sA


?fbclid=IwAR3KAFcicp-XMioQBKw2wLgrDDfdA13f-lATrsDldXfUUGywnndOklK3gw4




LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
30. There is question if that is true so I do not use that anymore. I had to put a clarification up.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jun 2020

St Paul police said they have investigated and it is not the same man. So I do not use that. As far as I am concerned up in the air cause I do not believe shit.

cally

(21,591 posts)
29. Please put this in a separate thread
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jun 2020

so all notice all the great research. Thanks for the links!

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
17. i don't know if you use twitter,
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:03 AM
Jun 2020

but here's a long thread with multiple instances including photos and video of police misconduct during the protests.


?fbclid=IwAR0l1KN8T8tJKZcqmTMlIuiOrm2D94-n00cX3l5Bj4Z-zCz_cWZy_XeaT9Y
 

Progressive Law

(617 posts)
12. On Los Angeles Fox11 local news, the on-air talent kept saying that the looters were AntiFa members.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:06 AM
Jun 2020

No evidence of that claims, but he kept repeating it every 5 minutes.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
16. Their coverage was despicable.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:13 AM
Jun 2020

I kept turning to it to see what they were saying, and they did have some reporters on the scene who got great footage, but the anchors especially were completely driven by ideology. I never watch Fox11, so I had no idea they were as bad as their cable counterpart.

ismnotwasm

(41,967 posts)
13. The major of Seattle Jenny Durkan
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:08 AM
Jun 2020

As well as the police chief, aBlack woman named Carmen Best, gave a joint press conference that managed to separate and support the peaceful protesters from the ones causing mayhem.

Ever patient I had today, (I was the charge for our dialysis team)supported the cause and condemned the violence and thought those murderous cops needed to be locked up. I don’t initiate these conversations, but this was unusual.


For what’s worth I have a friend who filmed cars being lit on fire Last night as well as another friend who participated in the clean up today.

Cha

(296,868 posts)
14. That's really good to know.. TY you for
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 01:08 AM
Jun 2020

letting those of us know who don't have a tv or are not watching.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
18. left will allow 1500 radio stations to interpret this for as long as they want. it hurts
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:09 AM
Jun 2020

our ears to to listen to it and our 'leadership' don't realize how bad it's kicking our ass

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
26. Hands are tied until we have both houses &
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:25 AM
Jun 2020

The Oval Office. Then we Dems must have the guts to change things. Bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

We must never again play Mr. Nice Guy when we're faced with such a destructive force as these treasonous saboteurs of democracy.

Those 1500 radio stations cannot continue to be allowed to spout that propaganda. Lose their licenses? But doesn't free speech allow lies to be broadcast? Did we allow Nazi propaganda broadcasts? We're facing the same thing now.

We must VOTE in November.



 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
28. needs to happen sooner. voting olone is not enough and a new fairness doctrine can't
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 09:02 AM
Jun 2020

be expected even with supermajorities because a lot of the free speech purists apply it wrongly and freak out and a lot of the necessary players think fox is the problem

once every advertiser on every rw station gets asked if they actually support trump etc many will head for the hills. to avoid that the ad industry will start to democratize it. along with imbaugh's imminent croaking many of those stations will change programming. protests at a few of the 87 universities that support rw radio can start that.

if a few of those schools were forced into public discussions of why they support radio stations that are making excuses for the racism that most of their student athletes are hit with every day, others would follow and pretty soon advertisers would abandon those stations and the ad industry would have to break up the 30 year monopoly at the heart of this disaster.

all it would take is someone like reich to mention talk radio once in a while, or maybe michael moore can ask why u of michigan and michigan state support 18!!!! fucking limbaugh stations while they make excuses for lead in the water and calll kneeling athletes traitors.

the GOP will lose the only unique advantage it has. without it mcconnell and many republican senators will lose. even before the elections they might end support of trump if they know those stations won't be there to attack them if they turn on him or excuse their licking of trumps private parts for 3 years

all americans have to do is convince the ad industry that boycotts and blame is coming at the advertisers and universities that sponsored and endorsed 3 months of covid denial and the death and economic disaster that denial is causing. the ad industry is already facing having to replace a dying limbaugh - the guy the whole talk radio monopoly was built around. when they have to preemptively start asking their clients if they really support trump etc they know they're going to lose a lot of clients. instead they can use limbaugh's impending death as an excuse to force democratization of talk radio. 600 of our loudest stations depend on limbaugh and they can't replace him, and they want those ears.

that will destroy it as a propaganda operation and most of the rest of the RW media will fall apart with it

RW talk radio monopoly a free speech free ride, as if 95% of americans prefer that racism, global warming and covid denial, stupidity, and lies

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
20. Gangs In Seattle Went To Bellevue Mall And Southcenter And Looted Stores
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:18 AM
Jun 2020

This has nothing to do with protesting.

It is criminals doing crime.

Watching local news.

SunSeeker

(51,518 posts)
25. Same in Long Beach, CA. They were organized theft rings with getaway drivers waiting.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:23 AM
Jun 2020

Local news got it all on camera, pointing out the looting occured at Pike Outlets while the police were distracted by the actual protesters several blocks away at Pine & Ocean Ave.

Same in Santa Monica, CA. A camera crew came upon looters going into a store from a back alley entrance behind Third Street Promenade. When the looters realized they were being filmed by TV cameras they threw smoke bombs between themselves and the cameras, then took off.

What was evident is the police were in force where the protesters were, leaving the looters free reign away from the protest locations.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. :) A mile is a miss. Unless they live on a major boulevard,
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jun 2020

next to a Democratic Party headquarters, or are bedding down behind a dumpster at Best Buys, I wouldn't worry. The sounds make it more real and interesting than hearing about it on on a newscast, without being more dangerous.

Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
37. I've also been more than surprised by some police departments.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:51 PM
Jun 2020

That "Blue Line" has always been a big part of this problem...that "brotherhood" that covered up all the bullshit. Police and sheriff's departments breaking ranks over this is a really big deal.

The revolution may indeed be starting.

mcar

(42,278 posts)
38. I salute the media for getting on this so quickly
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jun 2020

Also, those who posted videos on social media clearly showing MAGA disruptors while peaceful protesters begged them to stop.

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