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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnd some people wonder why we run from/resist the police. This kind of shish right here
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WhiskeyGrinder
(22,316 posts)wryter2000
(46,032 posts)I wondered why he encouraged her to call the police. He might have gotten some good officers, but he could have been arrested or killed.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The alternative would have been to leave and run the risk of being shot while escaping. Better to stay where he was surrounded by witnesses who saw what was happening.
We are constantly having to assess and make decisions to try to stay alive. Being black in America is a f#cking job.
cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)I'd like to see rest of video.
Not saying it didn't happen, but where is the arrest? I saw them remove the handcuff from the guy and he started walking away right before it ended.
When things like this are chaotic police are running high in adrenaline...I'm glad no one was hurt.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Just no.
Police don't do this to white people. This isn't because of adrenaline or chaos. Please fon"t try to excuse or normalize it.
And how much more video do you need to see?
Damn. This is another reason we run - because we know too many people will do what you just did.
cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)I simply said they were letting them go at the end.
Sorry.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)They were soliciting aid from the police. People are cuffed without arrest when the officer fears for his safety, or at least claims to do so. Why should an officer feel threatened by people asking for police assistance? I am open to suggestions that do not involve the race of the people put in handcuffs, but they had better be damned good and awful specific....
cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)I merely pointed out that they were not arrested in the video and were seen to be released. The cops were not there at the start of the video, they knew nothing and over-reacted and were about to arrest EVERYBODY including the reporters. I pointed that out.
I should have said it was wrong, granted, but I did not.
I was merely focusing on the lack of facts for the claim of arrest.
What call is there to scold me?
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)That sworn officers must remain cool and employ sound and just judgement. Men and women entrusted with the authority of the law, and immediate power over the liberty and life of fellow citizens, do not get to over-react and exercise their powers in ignorance.
These people are unfit for their work, and ought to be discharged. That they will not be drummed out of the force is the problem.
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)Lots of confusion . Hard to make sense until questions were asked and things calmed down.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)That sort of thing DOES happen to some white people too, especially if they're poor and look a certain way.
Cops profile all the time, and they tend to lurk where they hope to get "two for the price of one" opportunities. A traffic stop might result in finding drugs. a warrant for arrest, etc.
They're constantly looking for opportunities like that in my mostly-white, but not affluent, neighborhood.
There's wealthier neighborhoods within a few miles, and the police NEVER park their cars at those places, sitting there and hoping to spot a minor violation of some kind that could reveal something else in the process.
If they were allowed to just enter apartments around here and do random searches without cause, I'm sure they would.
I'm not going to pretend the profiling is as bad here, but it's what they do. And a lot of cops just aren't very bright either.
Edit:
I got to enjoy the "Andy Griffith" experience when I was growing up too, based on where my parents lived. Cops there would smile and wave when you waved at them, the few times that you saw them. They certainly never "hunkered down" while waiting for the slightest excuse to get in your ass when I lived there.
I knew it was different here the first time that I waved and smiled at a cop, and the guy looked at me like I must be up to no good.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)Don't like that it's on Fox but the good message is clear (2nd video)....
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Moments before they were handcuffed after trying to get the attention of the police, the woman described why it was important for her and her family to protect the store and their neighborhood.
"You're not tearing nothing else up, either". Great to see this community spirit and cops should be thanking them every day.
Would like to hear if these cops are called to account for the way this came down.
KY........