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MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:06 AM Sep 2012

At Kansas Statehouse, faith moves to the forefront

Expressions of Christian beliefs now invited, encouraged


Too much, you really should read this in it's entirety. There's gonna be some fighting in Kansas and it is not going to be pretty...I hope.

*snip*

A coalition of churches last year formed the Upper Room Committee, which convenes for prayer and music on the second floor one Saturday each month. There is movement to build a chapel in the Statehouse. A network of politicians and volunteers is organized into teams invoking cumulative power of prayer.

DePue said Brownback's staff requested a team pray for journalists who cover the Republican governor.

*snip*

"That's not the kind of religion we're talking about," DePue said. "We're talking about the good Samaritan kind of religion where you turn the other cheek."

He said adherents of Islam, who consider the Quran to be verbatim word of God, shouldn't assume the Capitol was open to them.

"They can apply," he said. "The main concern would be security. Probably that would be a valid reason. With security, if they felt it was an insecure situation, they would be told no."

*end

http://cjonline.com/news/2012-09-15/kansas-statehouse-faith-moves-forefront

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At Kansas Statehouse, faith moves to the forefront (Original Post) MuseRider Sep 2012 OP
Yet another reason not to live in Kansas CanonRay Sep 2012 #1
No, it is another MuseRider Sep 2012 #2
Kansans need to stand up to this buffoonery, MineralMan Sep 2012 #3
I wish I knew MuseRider Sep 2012 #4
I sure wish I had an answer for this. MineralMan Sep 2012 #5
Missouri as well it seems. MuseRider Sep 2012 #8
I think the cuts to education will do it. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #7
One would think so. MuseRider Sep 2012 #9
Straight off of C Street. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #6
There is so much in the article that is disturbing and I find that this part MuseRider Sep 2012 #10

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
3. Kansans need to stand up to this buffoonery,
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:12 AM
Sep 2012

and end the slow slide of Kansas into the depths of ridicule. I noticed a lot of comments to that story that demonstrate that Kansas are not uniformly standing behind this hyper-religious nonsense.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
4. I wish I knew
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:30 AM
Sep 2012

how many of the posters on that site really mean what they say. I am skeptical, from what I was reading the R's were working really hard to keep the moderates in office because they are not enamored with the RW or the baggers and they do not like Brownback but the election results proved that wrong. I wish I knew what issue is going to be the breaking point. I thought maybe the new tax policy would do it but apparently they are using a wait and see attitude on it, it will be too late by the time they see the results. Maybe it will be this. I can't figure them out. Sadly we need them to hurry the fuck up and figure it out, there are not enough liberals anymore to do it alone or even influence them.

Scares me.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
5. I sure wish I had an answer for this.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:40 AM
Sep 2012

I don't, though. Both Kansas and Nebraska seem stuck in some sort of time-warp when it comes to politics. I hope you folks can figure out some way to wake people up there and turn things around.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
8. Missouri as well it seems.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:46 PM
Sep 2012

There is nothing to help this. There are too few to fight it, there is no where people outside of the larger cities ever hear a voice other than this. There is not choice for them, only more and more radical religious RW BS.

Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri. I would like to think Missouri has a better chance of climbing out of all of this but damn, they certainly do not appear to be gaining in sanity.

It is going to take something so outrageous that shakes them up hard enough that they can't buy what they are being sold anymore. Frankly I don't know either what that might be because I have thought a thousand times over the years that THIS thing will do it but it never does. Maybe not using your mind, or not having to use your mind because you gave it over to the party/minister is just too strong now.

I hear too many people who, when losing so much that they can barely live, saying things like God only gives us what we can stand or Thy will be done. This is not God although Sammy boy certainly wants us to think it is.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
7. I think the cuts to education will do it.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 11:51 AM
Sep 2012

Could be I think that because I live in KC and people move across the state line to KS all the time for the schools.

But I have driven across Kansas 3 times since mid July and one thing that stands out is every town has a really nice school. I like variety so I have taken a different route every time. And in every single town, every good sized city - the schools really stand out. The new green school in Greensburg is absolutely beautiful but so are some of the older buildings in other towns. Well cared for, and not a one as old or in as poor shape as where I teach in MO.

Kansans obviously value education. (Well, except for the moron tea baggers.) It's obvious they are more than willing to pay taxes to send their children to school in up to date, well cared for buildings. And since state law prohibits local districts from raising money for anything BUT buildings, all across the state, tax payers have agreed to pay taxes for nice schools.

I think that's what will send them over the edge. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what will.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
9. One would think so.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 12:52 PM
Sep 2012

I don't know if it is possible to shake it up anymore.

Hard to say we truly value education (for more than sports anyway) when we continually have to fight those who want a curriculum of religion and not science and want prayer in school.

I just do not know what to do now. I have a feeling working for LGBT will be very interesting this next couple of years. I am guessing those of us that have registered at the statehouse with KEC will be some of those not allowed inside. After all, they won't let us carry flags and signs because we might cause violence....even if those causing the violence are those protesting against us. However if you are doing a pro life rally you can carry weapons.

This is the first of the big clamp downs. I am wondering when he is going to put out a tank so they can check if we are witches first before entering the holy grounds of Sam the Good.

This is test #1. Will this fly? Maybe <--and that scares me.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
10. There is so much in the article that is disturbing and I find that this part
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:30 PM
Sep 2012

is really obnoxious and should cause everyone in the state to stand up and make phone calls at least.

"The 165 members of the House and Senate and executive branch employees working for Gov. Sam Brownback are invited weekly to a prayer breakfast and a noon Bible study, which is held at an office of the governor."

Our elected officials work for who?

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