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Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:20 AM

Should police unions be liable for the behavior of its members?

Should they carry liability insurance paid for by the union members?

Why should the city be liable for the behavior of the police instead of the police union?

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Reply Should police unions be liable for the behavior of its members? (Original post)
Xipe Totec Jun 2020 OP
OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2020 #1
Geechie Jun 2020 #6
Dawson Leery Jun 2020 #2
Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #3
Xipe Totec Jun 2020 #9
Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #11
TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #4
Geechie Jun 2020 #5
Xipe Totec Jun 2020 #7
beachbumbob Jun 2020 #8
The Magistrate Jun 2020 #10
RobinA Jun 2020 #12
The Magistrate Jun 2020 #13

Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:25 AM

1. Might be a very good way to self-reform.

Nothing works as well as self-policing for your own economic interests.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:33 AM

6. Good point! nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:26 AM

2. Yes.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:26 AM

3. Absolutely!

As far as who pays the insurance premium - the city or the police union - I don’t really GAF - as long as liability insurance is required. After instances of bad behavior, however, the bad cop should pay the increase in premium - and it needs to rise sharply.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:36 AM

9. It should come out of the pockets of the union members

To give them an incentive to get rid of the bad apples.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 12:03 PM

11. I like my way too

All cops get their ‘basic’ insurance paid. Any infractions that cause the premium to rise steeply are on the bad cop - and there’s the incentive.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:27 AM

4. That opens the door to liability of other unions. Besides, if even possible...

it would be hell to prove.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:31 AM

5. Exactly ...

Ask the same question with the word “teacher” instead of “police.” Union reps generally provide legal backup but the whole union doesn’t get sued when a teacher gets called out for bad behavior.

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Response to Geechie (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:33 AM

7. It's atypical for teachers to kill students.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:35 AM

8. everything should be on the table ESPECIALLY the police unions and what can be done

to have them accountable for cost and civilian awards.

This is reform and not this bullshit "defund" crap

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Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:39 AM

10. Settlements, Sir, Should Be Paid Out Of Police Pension Contributions

If the city has to pay out, say, twenty millions for a murder by police, that is twenty millions counted against the city's obligation to the police pension funds. If this results in reduced benefits, or over time even in the bankruptcy of the fund, that's something an officer ought to think of before he strangles someone, or decides a cell-phone is a pistol, or just figures to shoot because someone 'reaches for his waistband'.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 01:23 PM

12. So Bankrupting The Pension Fund

of all police is an effective and fair way to stop a some trigger happy cops from shooting someone? I'd have to say No and No.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 01:27 PM

13. If they Behave, Sir, No One Will Suffer

If one fuck-up costs everybody, everybody will have to be on the alert to prevent fuck-ups.

The settlements paid out for police misconduct should harm the police, not the taxpayers of the municipality.

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