General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs the Confederacy finally defeated? Is it dead yet?
155 years after the civil war. Flags banned, statues toppled, even Gone With the Wind put down. Jim Crow (hopefully) dismantled.
Or...
Will things get back to the way the were after things settle down?
I remember how we thought the Emmet Till lynching would change things, the King assassination, Rodney King, Trayvon, Garner, etc.
My daughter asked me.
sop
(10,106 posts)Ironically, due to climate change, the area is actually sinking. Rising sea levels could put a lot of the old confederacy under water before Southerners' hopes of re-establishing the confederacy becomes a reality.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)roamer65
(36,744 posts)We have enough of them up here and do not want anymore of them. Make them stay and swim.
Docreed2003
(16,850 posts)One has to remember that the Confederacy fought for what those traitors viewed as being the "true" America. They viewed America as being special, chosen by God to be a "shining city on a hill"...no lie look it up, and that "all men are created equal" literally meant all white men. They saw slavery as a necessary power structure to ensure those beliefs. They saw slaves as property, yes, but in having another group of people as less than it confirmed their superiority and choseness in their own minds. The ideologies of the Confederate leaders has not died and will not die with removing flags and taking down statues. It will not die until all traces of that ideology are removed completely from our society.
I would submit to you that the concepts the Confederacy espoused, although not nearly as openly racist as they were in their time, are a very active part of the structure of our country today. You can hear the echoes of their beliefs in much of the rhetoric from the right today. They are teaching that ideology through the textbooks we use in public schools, they are indoctrinating both the true believers and the unawares through religion and culture, and they are pushing back vehemently against all measures of progress.
If you listen to Sen Tom Cotton's remarks the other day, you can clearly hear the ideologies of the Confederacy that survived Reconstruction and persisted into the 20th century. That is the evil we are facing, more so than the tangible symbols of their racist beliefs such as flags and statues.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)LeftInTX
(25,144 posts)the orange turd won't even rename forts