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kentuck

(110,950 posts)
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 08:32 AM Jun 2020

Segregated police forces?

White cops are hated in black neighborhoods so why are they there?

Hire enough black cops to police African-American neighborhoods.

The culture of present-day policemen is that they want to tell everyone to "get on the ground!" Even if it is for a burnt-out brake light. Is that really necessary?

They want to use their pepper spray and guns if given the opportunity.

It is part of their violent and dominating culture.

Something has to be done.

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Segregated police forces? (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2020 OP
Position and Power Sukee Jun 2020 #1
Please follow the money as well malaise Jun 2020 #3
"Something has to be done." This is something, therefore it has to be done? Towlie Jun 2020 #2
+1 Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #9
I feel the same way - more minorities are needed in every capacity FakeNoose Jun 2020 #4
Perhaps this might help snowybirdie Jun 2020 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author quaint Jun 2020 #6
Studies keep showing not much difference between black and white cops. Igel Jun 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author quaint Jun 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author marmar Jun 2020 #16
Actually satisfaction in Detroit with the police department is relatively high.... marmar Jun 2020 #17
The system itself is oppressive, punitive and the root problem. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #7
Exactly! Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #10
yep. marmar Jun 2020 #18
Actually black cops often involved in incidents delisen Jun 2020 #8
You think they would go for that? "OK, black cops will work the hood now, white guys to the suburbs" Baclava Jun 2020 #11
I think some black officers have issues as well. The power of the badge is intoxicating. boston bean Jun 2020 #14
"White cops are hated in black neighborhoods" marmar Jun 2020 #15
Get better cops. Iggo Jun 2020 #19
+1, pay them more to be professional if we have to uponit7771 Jun 2020 #23
The problem is Trumpist Republican police, not "white" police. gulliver Jun 2020 #20
No, segregation never works... Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #21
Except in all-black colleges, right? kentuck Jun 2020 #22

Sukee

(29 posts)
1. Position and Power
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 08:49 AM
Jun 2020

White cops are placed in OUR neighborhoods as scare tactics! History has proven the slave mentally runs rampant on both sides. As the 'white man' was intimidating to us, we coward when the 'massa' came near. They are placed in our neighborhoods to get their racist frustrations out. To bang our men against walls for no reason, to set them up with no evidence, and to, as one cop said to my 10yr old brother, "start them out early" by showing them what it feels like to be handcuffed.

My community has been screaming this for decades! No one wanted to hear us! We've marched, we've prayed, we've gone through the justice system, we've fought, we've looted, we've burned, we've cried, we've buried our own, we've raised our fists, and we've even gone as far as joining the police and military to try and even things out. Racism is deeply rooted in American culture. Damn if we're going to respect a flag and a national anthem written by Francis Scott Key - A RACIST - with our hands over our hearts pledging our loyalty to a system hellbent in breaking us.

Cops are put in our neighborhoods not as a means of security and protection. They are placed there to find their next 'suspect' so they can show they are part of the 'brotherhood!'

malaise

(267,799 posts)
3. Please follow the money as well
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 09:00 AM
Jun 2020

Cops are in the schools to send kids to the privately owned juvenile facilities and they are in communities to come up with crimes that will send young black men to more and more privately owned prisons. Check out who has invested in these prisons - it is the new slavery - free labor and federal and state funds for the prison owners.

Towlie

(5,307 posts)
2. "Something has to be done." This is something, therefore it has to be done?
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 08:58 AM
Jun 2020

"White cops are hated in black neighborhoods so why are they there?"

Why are black neighborhoods there?

We are one species, and frankly, your idea of increasing segregation, as opposed to working to eliminate it, is way off the mark. You need to re-think it.

FakeNoose

(32,335 posts)
4. I feel the same way - more minorities are needed in every capacity
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 09:11 AM
Jun 2020

Certainly black cops would be handling these situations with black citizens (who aren't even criminals) in a far different manner. The way to avoid racial incidents is to defuse them before they get started.

We're in this problem now because the police departments are filling their vacancies with white men who have a bullying tendency, or they're trained as bullies after they're hired. It's making everything worse.

Response to snowybirdie (Reply #5)

Igel

(35,191 posts)
12. Studies keep showing not much difference between black and white cops.
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:24 AM
Jun 2020

When it comes to shooting suspects, they do so at the same rate. White/white, white/black, black/black, black/white.

There might be differences at low levels of applied force.

What's sad is that there are often OPs where it took a few minutes to compose the OP, then 10, 20, 30 or 40 responses ... But information that either answers the OP's question or kicks it in the butt is a 20-second Google search away.

Response to Igel (Reply #12)

Response to quaint (Reply #6)

marmar

(76,982 posts)
17. Actually satisfaction in Detroit with the police department is relatively high....
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jun 2020

.... using an 11-year-old survey kind of distorts the picture. (or 6 years old at the time of publication)




Alacritous Crier

(3,803 posts)
10. Exactly!
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 10:32 AM
Jun 2020

As someone stated upthread, the reason there are "black neighborhoods" is where we need to look first.

delisen

(6,039 posts)
8. Actually black cops often involved in incidents
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 10:06 AM
Jun 2020

of killings.

Frreddie Gray in Baltimore comes to mind. There are others.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
11. You think they would go for that? "OK, black cops will work the hood now, white guys to the suburbs"
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jun 2020

Great recruiting poster!

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
14. I think some black officers have issues as well. The power of the badge is intoxicating.
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jun 2020

And society has allowed it.

It must change. Segregation is not the answer.

marmar

(76,982 posts)
15. "White cops are hated in black neighborhoods"
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jun 2020

Hated? Rogue cops are hated. .... That's a bit of rash generalization.

gulliver

(13,142 posts)
20. The problem is Trumpist Republican police, not "white" police.
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jun 2020

And the most obviously effective solution to it is voting out Republicans from every office in every election. That will take out the Drug War and other "race wars." Right now, the law itself tells police to oppress minorities and the poor. Obviously, those who want to oppress minorities and the poor are going to be attracted by that. Turn off the law's oppression and you dry up the oppression and its funding at the source.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
22. Except in all-black colleges, right?
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jun 2020

Segregation in certain institutions is not segregation of society.

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