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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:25 PM Sep 2012

Was "Romney’s “Mormon” Draft Deferment Not Legal" ?

One senior editor at Vterans Today argues that Mitt Romney's deferment was not legal for a variety of reasons. Most glaring of these is the LDS policy on non-whites holding any positions within the church and how this put LDS at odds with the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

Wikipedia gives Romney’s history, showing him to have dropped out of college at 19 and, instead of going to Vietnam as most Americans, he left for France but not covered by any deferment other than one claimed as part of a “private agreement” to name all Mormon children “ministers” according to Mitt’s biographers.

The US Constitution says otherwise, from page one onward. There is no language in the Federal Register supporting this claim, no court decisions and, as there were no African Americans allowed in the Mormon Church at the time, such a decision would have also been a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1965 and the Equal Protection provisions of the Constitution.

It wasn’t until 1978 that the challenges to the Mormon Church as legitimate due to their racists policies was settled by the IRS allowing them the legal status of a religious organization. Prior to that, they had the same tax standing as the KKK.
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Every effort is made to make Romney look like something other than a felon, some articles admit political strings, some refer to illegal deals. But what we don’t find is any support in the form of an entry in the Federal Registry nor any court challenges which would have most certainly been filed by the ACLU, SPLC, NAACP and other groups who would have immediately gone to court if a “whites only” church had been offered a special privilege.


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/10/romneys-mormon-draft-deferrment-not-legal/

Lots of detail there and a discussion of how LDS eventually, sort of reconciled, with the IRS and Civil Rights laws in 1978 -- "a revelation."

Stuff on the "Cain doctrine" which I had never read before. A disgusting explanation of why the Mormon church holds that African descendants are to be banned from the temple and priesthood.

And he works in Sheldon Adelson before concluding "This is the faith of Willard Mitt Romney, and they clearly taught him how to Etch-a-Sketch with the best of them!"
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Was "Romney’s “Mormon” Draft Deferment Not Legal" ? (Original Post) KurtNYC Sep 2012 OP
Which deferment? The chickenhawk piece of shit had FOUR of them! 11 Bravo Sep 2012 #1
that's interesting! Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #2
good way to combine several different threads - Racism, his wierd religion, and chickenhawkery el_bryanto Sep 2012 #3
But yet you dispute none of it. Odd, that. ret5hd Sep 2012 #4
OK el_bryanto Sep 2012 #5
Unless it was found at the time to be illegal SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #6
Mohammad Ali refused conscription for religious reasons as well. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #7
hadn't thought of that KurtNYC Sep 2012 #10
Tens of thousand white Wellstone ruled Sep 2012 #8
What was Mitts draft classification, his local board may have put him at 1Y instead of 1A. LiberalArkie Sep 2012 #9

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. good way to combine several different threads - Racism, his wierd religion, and chickenhawkery
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:40 PM
Sep 2012

Kind of nasty and nonsensical, but why let that get in the way of a good Slur.

Bryant

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
5. OK
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:51 PM
Sep 2012

I dispute the Characterization of the Mormon Church; I also dispute the use of the term Illegal.

I also think its worthwhile to note that while there were a limited number of deferments available on these grounds, Romney was not the only one to receive them.

Bryant

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
6. Unless it was found at the time to be illegal
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:53 PM
Sep 2012

Then it was legal. What "might" have happened had someone pressed the issue on civil rights grounds is irrelevent, since no one did.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. Mohammad Ali refused conscription for religious reasons as well.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012

He was arrested and found guilty on draft evasion charges, stripped of his boxing title, and his boxing license was suspended. Meanwile Mitt was in France, teaching that black people live under the curse of Cain. Man of honor: Mohammad Ali. Man of dishonor: Willard Romney

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Tens of thousand white
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 05:11 PM
Sep 2012

males in Utah used the same Crux to avoid the draft in the sixties and seventies. Poor Mormon males ended up in the military via the draft,only the better off dodged the draft.

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