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Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:15 PM

I am the 47%

I am one of the 47%. I am definitely going to vote for Obama. So will my mother and her husband. My husband and my 21 year old son plan to vote for him as well. So will my sister and her adult daughter. That makes all of us part of the 47%. What do we have in common (besides a desire to see Obama serve a second term)? According to Mitt Romney, we are "dependent on government" and "believe that (we)are entitled to health care, to food, to housing".

Let’s analyze these claims one at a time, starting with health care. I have employer sponsored health care that covers me, my husband and my 21 year old college age son, so none of us gets healthcare from the “government”. Obamacare will allow my healthy son to stay on my insurance for five more years, but I am not sure that counts as being “dependent on government” for his health care. My mom’s husband is covered by his aerospace industry employer. My mother, a NASA retiree, is covered by NASA, Medicare and her husband’s insurance. That makes her super-insured. Is Romney trying to claim that her Medicare is a government handout? Does he think that federal agencies like NASA should not provide retirement insurance? My sister gets insurance for her and her two kids (one college aged) from her employer, a petrochemical refinery. She has a union and good benefits, but no one could call her insurance a government handout.

On to food. None of us gets food stamps. On the contrary, we donate to area food banks. None of our kids gets free school lunches. The only “free” food we get is that which we grow in our own gardens. Romney and Ryan may complain that the food my mother buy’s with her Social Security check is a government handout. But she is over 70 years old and worked her entire adult life paying into the Social Security system, so I tend to think of it as retirement income.

My home is paid for. My mother’s home is paid for. My sister is still paying a mortgage on her new home, but no one helps her make her payments.

I guess you could say that we are “dependent on government” since we use the roads and if we have a fire, we call the fire department and the public health department sprays for mosquitoes when West Nile is a problem and we rely on the FDA to make sure the food (which we buy with our own money) is safe to eat. But we aren’t getting any government services for “free”. All of us pay taxes. We pay income tax. We pay sales tax. We pay property tax. We pay fuel taxes and alcohol taxes. And when all the taxes are paid, we give to charity, too---

Come to think of it, we are not dependent upon the government. The government is dependent upon us. And we want to be sure that our tax dollars are spent wisely. We want to see our taxes spent on roads and disease prevention and good schools and clean air and water and national security and all the other things that government is supposed to provide. We absolutely do not want to see our tax dollars diverted into the accounts of people who are so rich they will never be able to spend all their money.

You know how I define the so called “47%”? We are the ones who want to have some control over how our country is run and our tax dollars are spent. We are the ones who think America is worth investing in. And Romney/Ryan despise us because we are too smart to buy their "trust us, we can pay for those tax cuts and still balance the budget" line.

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McCamy Taylor Sep 2012 OP
Lebam in LA Sep 2012 #1
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Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #2
2on2u Sep 2012 #3
McCamy Taylor Sep 2012 #9
2on2u Sep 2012 #10
Delmette Sep 2012 #4
tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #11
RevStPatrick Sep 2012 #5
salin Sep 2012 #6
hfojvt Sep 2012 #7
David Zephyr Sep 2012 #8

Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:22 PM

1. Brilliant!

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:24 PM

2. .

 

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:25 PM

3. May I email this to family and friends?? Recced for sure.

 

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Response to 2on2u (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:21 PM

9. Forward to whoever you want. And while you are at it remind them

that folks in Red states are more likely to live in poverty and rely upon government support---meaning that Romney's "base" is poor and dependent and Lord only knows why they vote the way they do, since their votes ensure that they will stay that way until the day they die.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:22 PM

10. Thank you so much, if I worked for a paper I would put this on the front page asap. n/t

 

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:28 PM

4. i couldn't have said it better myself

I contribute to my healthcare premiums, no food stamps, pay all my taxes, help my 86 year old Mother and disabled son. I supplement the government and contribute to it. So do my three siblings, my other son and five neices nephews and their spouses.

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Response to Delmette (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 18, 2012, 01:43 AM

11. exactly, the network is there for those that need it


and families have supported the network and members of families sometimes need to depend on the network that they built

welcome to DU btw

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:39 PM

5. Well said. Thank you.

 

That sounds pretty much like me and my people.
And pretty much like everyone I know.
All of whom will vote for Obama...

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:46 PM

6. Mirrors my situation, and that of my many friends

who are planning on voting for Obama.

Well written - well said.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:48 PM

7. I was one of the other 47%

I didn't pay Federal Income taxes in 2011, other than FICA taxes. Or in 2010, or 2009, or 2008, or 2007. In fact, in 2008 and 2009 I paid negative federal income taxes because of both the EIC and the Making Work Pay credit. Then I got a better paying job. So I will pay Federal Income taxes this year.

I wrote this about the 47%

What about the 47%?
Some in the media are trying to make a big deal out of the fact that 47% of Americans do not pay Federal Income Taxes. This is not new. In November of 2002, the Wall Street Journal wrote about the "Lucky Duckies" who were too poor to pay income taxes.

The fact is, that most years, I have been one of them, but I would love to pay income taxes instead of not pay them. Why? Because that would mean I was making more money. The tax rate is not 100%. If I paid $500 in income taxes that would mean I had an extra $5,000 in income that I do not have now. Even after FICA taxes that would leave me over $4,000 ahead.

Let's look at the larger picture though. In 1996, there were 13.2 million taxpayers with income over $10,000 and less than $15,000 and there were another 11.6 million with income less than $20,000 and another 28.5 million with income less than $10,000. Discounting the last group, which is probably mostly teenagers, those making under $20,000 paid $16.9 billion in taxes. Let's assume that the Bush tax cuts eliminated taxes for that group (which they didn't, but for the sake of argument). Those 24.8 million people (or families) would thus save an average of just $681.

Now, look at what actually happened with another group. What Bush called his base - "the haves and the have mores". In 1996, the top 1% paid an average tax rate of 28.9%. By 2006, they only paid an average of 22.79%. In 2006, their total income was $1.79 Trillion! Thus, they saved $109 billion thanks to the Bush tax cuts, an average savings of $80,313.

So, to compare, that's $16.9 billion saved by the poorer people and $109 billion saved by the richer people, and there are 24.8 million of the poor families compared to 1.36 million of the richer families.

Should we be upset because poorer families got $16.9 billion in tax cuts? Or should we be more concerned about the $109 billion going to people with incomes over $388,000? Who is luckier, somebody making $15,000 who got a tax cut of $681 or somebody making $38,000,000 who got a tax cut of over $2,300,000? Hey, doesn't Rush Limbaugh make $38 million a year?

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:52 PM

8. And you get to vote!

McCamy Taylor, thank you for your post.

If this doesn't cost this ass the election, then I don't know what will.

What a rich bratty snob he is.

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