The new video is up at Mother Jones

[tavalon]

Nothing earth shattering, but what I found fascinating is that the filming is clearly being done by a hidden camera, placed in an alcove. Must be a pretty small one. The previous footage had me believing someone was using their cell phone or video camera upon their person. Definitely not so.

http://www.motherjones.com/authors/david-corn

[cali]

1. I disagree. I think his comments about I/P

are pretty startling.

[tavalon]

4. I didn't find them much more than muddled

I think he showed his poor understanding of foreign affairs, especially those of the ME, but it isn't the game ender (as in, yes, Romney, you did lose the Presidency on Sept 17th, 2012) that the first excerpt was. I guess that's why I noticed that the camera was hidden in an alcove - something I missed the first time around.

What specifically startled you? I may well have missed something.

[cali]

6. that he doesn't support the two state solution

that's been standard for both parties for a while. It raises the question of how his admin could possibly be an agent for positive movement in the middle east as a whole and with I/P specifically. It may look like nothing now, but I think you'll see a lot of attention focused on his I/P comments and his wholesale condemnation of the Palestinian people.

[tavalon]

11. I dearly hope so

I see what you're saying, but since it's seemed like empty rhetoric on both sides since President Clinton, I didn't pay it much mind. I think I need to go listen to that bullshitter again. Oh, my poor ears. At least his increasingly southern accent isn't as grating as the Kennebunkport Texan's was.

[JoDog]

20. Also, the 2-state solution

has been the official, public position of his friend Netanyahu's government for some time. Whether that is what Bibi actually wants is open to debate, but that is the official government bargaining position.

[avebury]

9. The fact that Romney doesn't really

understand what goes into a dirty bomb and that all a terrorist needs to do is steal some radioactive waste material which could potentially be obtained from numerous places around the world.

[tavalon]

13. Most people, myself included, don't know

But I do know that it's already very possible to get the goods and that port cities in the US are especially vulnerable. It doesn't help me sleep well, I promise you.

[avebury]

17. My arguement would be that people should be far more concerned

about the security of radioactive waste then how soon Iran gets functioning nuclear capability. There is far too much radioactive waste out there are far more potential terrorists in the world then Iranians (and not all of them are muslims). The potential theft of radioactive waste is which poses a graver threat to the US via use in a dirty bomb then Iran's ability to produce a bomb.

[tavalon]

18. I wholly concur on that one

With the demise of the USSR, Russia's nuclear crap is laying all over the place, basically unguarded. I'm thankful nothing has happened yet, but yet is the big word there.

[2on2u]

2. I hope the person responsible for this tape is one of the 47%ers.... you have to wonder

how this came about and what would a person who may have been invited but probably wasn't was doing at this affair.

[tavalon]

5. If it was, as Romney would likely say, the hired help,

I hope for their sake that no one outs who it was. They would lose their job.

[B Calm]

7. It was Jimmy Carter's grandson. .

[tavalon]

10. He says he was the facilitator who convinced the person who taped this

to give it to David Corn. An intermediary of sorts.

Now, if he was actually the filmer, then my first question would be: What lame ass candidate would allow the grandson of the man he's been pillorying since the primaries, into his millionaires only, fundraiser?

[2on2u]

24. I'll bet Jimmy Carter is beaming with pride right about now. n/t

[Firebrand Gary]

3. That is going to be very problematic for him!

There are so many things wrong with what he is actually saying. We will see where is going in the next few hours. Setting aside his potential coordination with Bibi, that is a very, very different Romney behind closed doors. He is clearly comfortable with his millionaire buddies and talking more openly to them than he has anyone in the media, including Fox News.

[tavalon]

8. Yes. I've been doing some research lately on sociopathy in the greater society

Not all sociopaths are of the Jeffrey Dahmer or Hannibal Lecter type and in fact many are able to function and rise in business circles where having emotions or empathy is a problem. Sociopaths learn at an early age to create personas to stand in for themselves and rarely do they actually show their true personality.

We are seeing the true personality of Romney in this video. It isn't hyperbole to say that he is, was and always will be a sociopath. It's just a fact. GWB and Cheney are also sociopaths and we saw how well that went for us. We just can't afford another sociopath in the White House.

But thanks to David Corn, President Carter's grandson and someone who hopefully will remain unnamed, we won't have to.

[90-percent]

14. my bumper sticker

OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE INFESTED WITH CORRUPT SOCIOPATHS

The people we have running everything are not serving the public good.

At long last, sir, do our institutions have no sense of decency?

-90% jimmy

[tavalon]

16. Corrupt Sociopaths

Isn't that a bit like Military Intelligence?

[radiclib]

19. Actually it's the opposite

One is redundant, the other is an oxymoron.

[central scrutinizer]

21. "kick it down the road and hope something happens" - now there is real leadership

clearly a well thought out strategy

[liberal N proud]

12. There it is and still does not vindicate his remarks

He made a statement last night that if the whole video was shown, his remarks would come into context.


Sorry Mitt, still shows you are a heartless bastard.

[tavalon]

15. Oh, yeah, that Clint Eastwood "I dare ya"

was pretty hilarious. We're going to get the whole tape, bit by bit and none of it is going to be out of context. Romney is, as of yesterday, however, out of the race.

[mzmolly]

22. He said peace can't be accomplished in the middle-east?

That's the spirit!

[Enrique]

23. the problems he describes have always been there

and the U.S. has always tried to solve the problem. Every president, as far as I know, has tried to solve the problem.

I think this video will make Romney useless in any such negotiations. I don't recall any previous president declaring that there is no hope of a solution. I could be wrong. On the other hand, it does sound like the attitude of some Israeli leaders.