Just tied a right-winger up in knots on fb!

[rateyes]

Talking about the SCOTUS decision the right-winger says, “you are either for life, or you are not.” I ask him, “do you wear a mask out in public?” He replies, “what concern is it of yours? I’m talking about abortion.” I say, “Pregnant women are being told that transmission of COVID-19 from mother to fetus cannot be ruled out. When you go out without a mask, you are taking a risk of infecting a pregnant woman, and possibly killing her and her unborn child. Anyone claiming an anti-abortion stance and not wearing a mask is a hypocrite beyond all hypocrites.”

Him: “crickets”

[iamateacher]

1. Great reply!

[soldierant]

44. Since you know your friend, you probably said it exactly right.

I would have said, "Anyone not wearing a mask may be an unwitting abortionist." But I'm just a bit OCD about turning their own words against them, and "hypocrite" no longer seems to make much of a dent from whee I see it. I might even make it "forced abortionist," depending on the context.

[Srkdqltr]

2. Excellent

[Cirque du So-What]

3. The best one can hope for

when dealing with a deplorable, is a stalemate. Well done.

[ffr]

4. .

[cayugafalls]

5. Bookmarking to remember. Great reply!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

6. Good for you!

I'm wondering, though, just how much of your little talk he actually understood?

Of course, we understand it just fine!

But if he wasn't really listening, then he could have easily gotten lost..........

[Laffy Kat]

7. Would be curious as to his opinion on the death penalty. nt

[rateyes]

8. There were others on the thread who jumped him

about that and war. He didn’t want to talk about it. Lol.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

9. That tends to be my first question of those who

are opposed to abortion. Oddly enough, a lot of them are enthusiastic supporters of the death penalty.

[Ohiogal]

11. "Oh, but that's something completely different"

They always say.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

55. "Pro-Life" is not just "Pro-Fetus."

The pro-fetus crowd has been allowed to kidnap and try to redefine the term "pro-life." When they try to redefine I always respond with, "Oh, so I get it. You are only pro-fetus,"

THEM: "Well, adoption is a better answer."

ME: "OK, how many kids have you adopted?"

Words have meaning.

[Ohiogal]

59. Yep.

Nothing makes me more angry than when they say “adoption is better.” No, it is not better. Going through 9 months of pregnancy and then giving birth isn’t exactly a walk in the park. (I should know, I’ve done it three times). Some women are not emotionally or physically able to go through with it. Some women do not have the ability to pay for medical care. But regardless of those reasons, no woman should be forced by the government to undergo pregnancy and birth. It’s none of the government’s GD business. Don’t believe in abortion, then don’t have one.

[treestar]

64. Generally the demand is

Greater than supply when it comes to adoption. So that’s not a good argument. Turning it personal is fallacious too. It’s like when they tell us we should take illegal immigrants into our homes.

The reason adoption in not a solution is the nine months, the stress, risks of childbirth and mainly that it is the woman’s body and her decision.

[warmfeet]

36. I am no longer curious as to what rw's opinions are, having conversed with many.

Evidence, rational thought and critical thinking is not among their skill set.

They are idealogue's and tribalist's.


They give, not one flying fuck about reality.

[MontanaMama]

10. Wonder if your hypocritical FB pal

is pro-military too? If he thinks he’s pro-life then he ought to be plenty pissed off about the bounty Putin put on our soldier’s lives. Or is he just a phony pro-fetus kinda guy.

[rateyes]

14. He's a Trumper, so who knows?

[brewens]

12. Good example. Of course they blow the pro-life thing by risking killing anyone. There already are

many people that likely know they brought the virus in and killed someone. They believed Trump, Hannity and the rest of the collaborators and got loved ones killed. I suspect we'll be hearing about some, but most won't admit it.

[rateyes]

15. I mentioned that, as well. Just stopped him short

With the above reply.

[fierywoman]

13. And then there are the lives of all the people an unmasked person passes -- people who are

already born and whose lives the unmasked person threatens.

[Eliot Rosewater]

16. Well done, sadly logic means nothing to them.

[czarjak]

17. And then there's Russian bounties on American service personnel. Deny, deny, deny?

[bucolic_frolic]

18. You've given new meaning to rope a dope

Congratulations.........................................................................!!!

[rateyes]

19. Lol

[lunatica]

20. Now you dunnit. He has to re-departmentalize all over again!

He’ll be back. Just give him a minute.

[Blue Montana]

21. I have learned not to never argue with ignorance. It is futile.

First off I'd like to say hello and nice to meet you. You sound like a person with a very good outlook. As to FB. I boycott it completely, and whining maga's, I have not the patience for such ignorance. I applaud you for being able to tolerate it long enough to make your statement. Usually it's like talking to a rock when you come across one of those trumper's. I block all of them on twitter and more than likely will never acknowledge them if I come across them in this forum which I assume is not possible. Is it?

Anyway, I salute you for standing up for women's rights and for pointing out logical points to health and safety. A very intelligent reply to an awful maga person and an even worse biased situation. Your patience is to be commended. You sound like a #TheResistance family member for sure.

[phylny]

62. Welcome to DU!

[Blue Montana]

67. Thank you for the welcome.

Thanks so much for welcoming me. I appreciate it. Please be safe, have a beautiful day and stay healthy.

[Karadeniz]

22. Well said!...they don't really care...it's a convenient way to feel they're on the side of Good

A way that doesn't cost them money, personal commitment, or real effort.

[crickets]

23. Well done!

More than just shutting him up, you may have gotten him to stop and think. Unlikely, but you never know.

[keithbvadu2]

24. Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so. Pro-life is a myth.

Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.

Pro-life is a myth.

The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.

It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.

It is a matter of control.

[47of74]

50. The reich to life doesn't give two shits about human life

Once said life pops out it’s on its own.

The reich has no concern for human life except for how it can get them votes.

[LittleGirl]

25. Yeah, life is so precious

None of us get out alive, pluseez.

[Grins]

26. With the Spanish flu...

...in 1918 the death rate for pregnant women and women with infants was SEVERAL TIMES HIGHER than the general population. There was a huge spike in the number of fathers left alone to care for any kids, and orphanages filled up.

[rateyes]

27. Thanks for that info.

[iluvtennis]

28. Perfect response. Bravo. nt

[volstork]

29. Well done!

[Mr. Ected]

30. He has nothing to say because he doesn't really value the life of the fetus or the mother

He just wants to control both of them.

Sadly, he doesn't want anyone to control him, not even a smidge, not even to wear a mask.

These folks are 100% ego, 0% empathy.

[progree]

31. 400,000 more children are uninsured since Trump took office, CNN, 10/29/19

https://us.cnn.com/2019/10/30/politics/us-children-health-insurance/index.html

So if someone comes along and yammers about all of the blastulas and zygotes being murdered, ask them why Trump and his Trumpies don't care about children dying..

By the way, the same article says the total number of Americans (including adults) losing health insurance between 2017 and 2018 was 1.9 million -- truly an American genocide in progress.

======================================

AMERICAN GENOCIDE: somewhere around 15,000 Americans died between the years 2014 and 2017 as a result of states that turned down the money available to them from the federal government through the provisions of the ACA - paper by 4 scholars published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, 7/23/19

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212306164

=========================================

Trump and the vast vast majority of Republicans in Congress attempted American Genocide in 2017:

This Wikipedia articles covers both the AHCA (American Health Care Act) and the BCRA (Better Care Reconciliation Act)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Health_Care_Act_of_2017

H.R. 1628, American Health Care Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 5/24/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752
would increase the number of people who are uninsured by 23 million in 2026 relative to current law.

H.R. 1628, Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 6/26/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849
A little bit better: leaving 22 million uninsured in 2026 relative to current law.

=========================================

And no, emergency rooms are not comprehensive health care -- they do just enough to stabilize you and then give you a fistful of prescriptions that you can't afford to fill, and a bunch of referrals to doctors and specialists that you can't afford to see if you are like most uninsured. And I'm not talking about some aberrant ones that have been in a news, wheeling someone out onto the sidewalk and leaving them there. No, no, no, I'm talking about ALL of them. ALL.

[videohead5]

32. Rethugs care more about the economy

Than human life. We have done seen that. They could care less about the elderly and anyone with underlying health problems. They just wanted to get the economy going again. Their arguments ring hollow.

[aggiesal]

52. GOP means Greed Over People ...

Greed
Over
People

[live love laugh]

33. Well ... he'll just have to run that by Limbaugh or Hannity so he can get back to you. Hold on...

[Soph0571]

34. Brilliant! n/t

[TNNurse]

35. OMG, you used knowledge and logic, they do not understand that.

[Xolodno]

37. One dimensional thinking.

A lot of right wingers exhibit that trait. One right winger I know commented on abortion and how it should end. I responded by saying "are you ready for your taxes to go up?". He looked at me weird and asked how is that related.

I told him that there would be a huge increase of single mothers, families with not enough means to support the child, etc. It will strain the social welfare programs, so more taxes will be needed to indemnify them.

If that doesn't happen, expect to get robbed on a frequent basis, as they will need money to survive. Oh and your insurance premiums will surge. So you are still paying for it. But it gets even better, if they get caught and go to prison, you taxes will either go up to incarcerate them....or they will slash funding in other areas. Be prepared to buy new tires more often. And the child will no doubt end up in CPS. So your taxes get hit again with foster parents getting paid.

Didn't bother with the "dead women in alleys and storage units due to a botched abortion" argument. It usually sparks their moral high ground defense. But when you hit them in the wallet, suddenly, reason washes over them.

[Skittles]

47. yup

they don't care about women, but they do care about money

[Orrex]

38. That's a great reply, but...

As soon as that asshole remembers that Conservatives don't actually give a shit about pregnancy except to the extent that it lets them control women, your excellent point will have no impact on him.

He'll probably scoff and say something fucking stupid like "apples and oranges."

Because Conservatives are fucking stupid. Especially the ones lurking here from their various circle jerk cesspit forums.

[Missn-Hitch]

39. Excellent. Here's another fun thought experiment to make 'em shut up.

There is a building on fire. There are two rooms. One with 12 children (ages 3-8) and the other a freezer containing 1000's of embryos. You ONLY have time to save one room. Which do they save?

Watch their eyes gloss over.

[rateyes]

41. I'll use that one! Excellent!

[Cousin Dupree]

40. Oh that is so good!

[Celerity]

42. Many (most?) forced birthers do not care about the life, all they want is the power over women, the

power to force them to do shit. That goes for the women forced birthers too. They love being dommed out by buybull-ordained kings of the castle.

[bluboid]

43. Thanks!

Brilliant post.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

45. Holy cow... Where have you been ???????????

[rateyes]

48. Hi. Lurking mostly. Post once in a blue moon.

Lot of water has passed under the bridge in the past 20 years. Divorced, remarried, traveled to Europe twice, got all my daughters off the payroll. Retired from one career, now teaching HS math and coaching. How have you been?? Good to see you!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

61. Have missed you terribly!

[rateyes]

63. Happy to see you!

[Tribetime]

46. Thank you 👍👍👍👍

[Tipperary]

49. Supporting Zuckerberg.

Sorry, I just do not get that.

[aggiesal]

51. If you don't wear a mask, you can't call yourself "Pro LIFE" ...

Simple as that!

[lark]

53. Oh, what an excellent response.

I will absolutely remember that and use it, it's so good and spotights their lying inhuman hypocrisy.

[GoCubsGo]

54. So, the only lives that matter to this fuckwit are the ones that can be ended with an abortion?

I mean, if you're "for life", that includes everyone around you. The hypocrisy and stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze me.

[treestar]

66. Of course

Their concern ends at birth.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

56. Great response! 👏🏾

[calimary]

57. Yep. Bet they'll say they're "pro-life."

But that ONLY includes whatever's inside a woman's private parts. And that's the extent of it.

The lives of black people.
The lives of other POC. - Latinos, Asians, and many more.
The lives of poor people.
The lives of people who don't donate to their campaigns, or vote for Democrats.
The lives of people in blue states.
The lives of children - especially immigrant children (caged or not).
The lives of people in urban areas.
The lives of Democrats in general.
And the list goes on. With him, it's a list that's freakin' ENDLESS.

[WinstonSmith4740]

58. Yeah...

I'm getting a warm fuzzy feeling every time I see a "My body, my choice" sign on one of the Trump anti-mask idiots. Suddenly they're all pro-choice, right?

[Sherman A1]

60. That and 2 bucks

Will buy you a cup of coffee. Political arguments on Facebook are a complete waste of time and energy.

[ecstatic]

65. Excellent! 👍 Good job! nt