Mitt Romney won't be hurt as bad by this video as some of you think. A lot of people who will vote

[JRLeft]

for Mitt, do not believe they are poor, middle class, or in poverty.

[cthulu2016]

1. The damage is not about the voters positions, it is about the media

The video further establishes a narrative of Mitt Romney, and that narrative becomes a positive feedback loop—it shapes coverage of all other things.

The influencable public picks up the negativity toward Romney, the lack of respect, more than the narrow specifics of a policy or position.

Think how this shapes all future discussion of tax policy, for instance.

[Courtesy Flush]

6. Exactly. It's one nail in the proverbial coffin.

It hangs over his head, and will be mentioned in every media interview. At least, until the next blunder comes along.

He has a long list of missteps and downright fuckups. He can't control the narrative as long as he's dodging questions about things like this. And I think this will strengthen the call for his tax returns.

[riderinthestorm]

2. Actually, I agree with this. They also don't think "they" are using government services

We saw that with the senior Tea Baggers waving signs saying "don't touch my Medicare!" Or vets who are getting VA care who are confused about "socialized medicine"....

Some of these folks just haven't (or won't) made the connection.





For them, Rmoney's words simply reinforce the narrative when we object - if we're objecting then we're just loser moochers too doncha know.

[Barack_America]

3. But I'm guessing they do know whether or not they pay federal income tax.

And Romney said that those who do not "pay taxes" feel that they are "victims".

That's going to anger some people, perhaps enough not to vote at all.

[JRLeft]

4. I believe you are mistaken. I guarantee if you ask the majority of people who will vote for Romney,

will tell you that they pay taxes for all the lazy people (Obama voters). They may not know what income taxes are, but if you asked them they will reply yes.

[Whiskeytide]

28. I think I agree with JRLeft, too

The L.I. conservative members of the 47% may not pay taxes, but they believe it is for a "good" reason - mortgage deduction, child credits, retired, etc.... When Romney speaks of the 47%, they don't see themselves in that group because they don't understand the definition of the 47% and don't believe it includes them. They think he means the "free loaders" only, and they'll vote for him because he's "gonna stop the free loading".

Those people will, literally, believe that 47% of Americans are livin' large on welfare, and it might motivate them to "end the giveaway". I really fear this debacle will bring at least as many votes to him as it drives away.

[fugop]

5. It's all about the news cycle

Every day wasted on defending himself is a day Romney can't spend peddling lies about the president. Time is ticking awY and he can't seem to stop it. I'll take it!

[Spazito]

7. The ones you are talking about are his base...

His base is NOT large enough to elect him, he needs Independents and this video is devastating to that effort.

He was already behind with Independents before this, it isn't going to get better after this video, imo.

[TwilightGardener]

8. Feeds into the narrative that Romney is an uncaring greedy bastard, and is also completely inept.

BTW, why would I vote for someone who thinks half of America sucks? His base of loons will, but he won't attract any new voters this way.

[randome]

9. The video shows he is not a very smart politician. He is tone deaf.

Those who are wavering will decide not to back a loser. The video will have an impact. I agree it won't be a big impact but significant.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. He's equating independents as thinking like his "base"

and thus they would pick him if he can convince them to eat the red meat base talk that he is throwing out there to them. And this is where the video is damaging because the indies are not foaming at the mouth RW lunatics.

[RobertEarl]

10. He is a divider

And he has divided the People of the US.
There are, according to Romney, Two Americas.

His kind and the 47%.

In that 47% are children, soldiers, retirees, minimum wage earners, and the disabled.

Not many of the remaining 53% are going to want a divider as President.
Do the math. He's a loser.

[pampango]

11. He'll get 45% no matter what he says or does. That's not enough. He is making it harder

and harder to fool the 5% more that he needs.

[Cattledog]

12. Death by a thousand cuts

Is what's doing him in.

[RobertEarl]

17. This is a sword

He just cut himself off from over half of America.

And half of the half that is left, now knows better than to trust Mitt.

[ladjf]

13. Don't make the same mistake that Romney made by generalizing too much. However, you do

make a valid point. nt

[Mike Daniels]

15. If he doesn't think this will come up in a debate he's too stupid to be POTUS

He's going to be forced to explain this again in front of a national audience most likely in debate #1.

Personally, I hope he goes full tilt to where the mouth-breathers break out in cheers over the idea of screwing over their fellow countrymen. It'll make the Republican primary debate crowds' insensitivity look minor-league in comparison.

[bongbong]

16. The repig hate filter

When repigs hear Flip-Floppers' "47%" remark, their internal filter changes that number into the phrase "lazy n-----s". Even the poorest repigs make absolutely no link between the derision spoken by Tax Evader and themselves.

[The Midway Rebel]

18. I disagree.

Mitt's own words have become a weapon that will be used to destroy him in a million-million, conversations over dinner or a cup of coffee. The Republican position has become untenable for all but the most die hard GOP fans. All the GOPers I know have suddenly fallen silent. There is no defense against the undefendable.

[JRLeft]

19. I may be wrong, but i do not see this as damaging as most of you believe. Just listen to right wing

radio.

[justiceischeap]

24. It's not the base that this is damaging to

it's Independent voters. His base is going to vote for him (or not vote for Obama) no matter what. There is no winning his base, just as there is no winning the Democratic base for him. However, moderate Repubs and Independents who may have been looking at RMoney, may now be looking at either voting for President Obama or writing in another candidate.

[Bobby D]

20. I agree that the the shelf life of this remark will be far less than the 50 days until the election.

It is unfortunate that the US population, as a whole, is very susceptible to information manipulation. Romney is outspending Obama unlike in 2008, where Obama outspent Mc Cain. Despite the debates, Romney can convince even a large portion of the 47% he despises to vote for him. Politics is no longer as it was in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s or even the 90s. Now it is one dollar one vote. I wish it were not but it is.

[KurtNYC]

22. There are a lot more than one remarks in that tape

"tired of Ann", "unfortunately my grandfather was American", the Chinese factory tour, giving up on Israel before even being elected, giving advice to terrorists, on and on and on. It was a like a pinata full of truth and we are still picking through all the goodies.

Meg Whitman and many others have outspent their opponents and lost big. A much smaller percentage of voters watch TV news than did even 30 years ago. The sheer onslaught of ads in swing states becomes white noise so there is only so much you can spend before you are just carpet bombing the electorate into deafness.

Romney will keep the 47% thing relevant because he says shit like that all the time. He and his donors are waging class warfare and they aren't going to stop.

[KurtNYC]

21. "won't be" ? He already IS.

[gollygee]

23. It doesn't have to change a ton of votes

Just sway some undecideds and make Republicans feel like it's less worth their time to stand in line at the polls. That's plenty.

[cali]

25. it's cumulative, you realize, right?

it's one bad news day after another throwing him perpetually off message.

[WCGreen]

26. they are all ready going to vote for the GOP candidate..

It's getting the people who might not have voted pissed off enough to get to the polls.

[ProSense]

27. Pawlenty Steps Down From Romney Campaign To Join Bank Lobbying Group

Pawlenty Steps Down From Romney Campaign To Join Bank Lobbying Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021382725

Widespread panic in GOP as reality of Romney disaster begins to sink in
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021382638

ROTFLMFAO- Did (R)asmussen Throw In The Towel -Obama -47% -Romney 45% /Obama-50% Romney 47% Leaners
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021382936