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rlegro

(338 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 08:53 PM Jul 2020

Stipulating that the Federal Elections Commission is useless....

I'm surprised there hasn't been a more vigorous legal attempt to interdict Trump's practice of treating most if not all his campaign stops as official government business, characterizing them as tours, listening sessions, or whatever. He's squeezing tens of millions of dollars out of taxpayers to cover his coarse, negative, smear-filled vote hunting. So is Pence.

I doubt it will do them any good at this point. And it isn't as if previous presidents haven't done this occasionally. But it's still the case this is the first truly 24/7, permanent-campaign administration. T's refusal to truly step away from his business interests was an immediate issue but these continuing "I'm just here to pay my respects" or "welcome to our celebration of American Independence" festivities now get no more than shrugs. Of course, he's been so bad on so many far more critical level, so who's got time to worry about such relatively petty transgressions? Nevertheless, he's set a low bar and perhaps a dangerous precedent for unscrupulous successors.

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Stipulating that the Federal Elections Commission is useless.... (Original Post) rlegro Jul 2020 OP
I seem to remember that Obama's campaign paid for a percentage of the trip, depending on the trip... Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #1
Yes. You remember correctly StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #4
Current Chairman (James E. Trainor III) is a Trump appointee. Golden Raisin Jul 2020 #2
I get it, but incumbents have always been able to use their office to Hoyt Jul 2020 #3
Of course. It's impossible to completely separate the president from the candidate StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #5

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
1. I seem to remember that Obama's campaign paid for a percentage of the trip, depending on the trip...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 08:58 PM
Jul 2020

For instance, if he visited a site for governmental reasons but campaigned while in the area, the Democratic party paid a percentage of the costs for transportation and on-ground charges. The Repukes watched that closely and Obama made sure they had the documents to prove they'd paid.

I'm sure I didn't dream it.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. Yes. You remember correctly
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:23 AM
Jul 2020

The Obama team was very careful to do everything by the book. For that matter, so were the Bush and Clinton people.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I get it, but incumbents have always been able to use their office to
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 09:00 PM
Jul 2020

some degree in elections.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. Of course. It's impossible to completely separate the president from the candidate
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jul 2020

But there are rules and previous presidents always went out of their way to follow them.

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