My straight-up red Republican coworker today said...

[DonRedwood]

When I asked her if she had seen Mitt Romney's hidden video:

She looked mad as hell and said, "What the hell is wrong with him?!!"

She told me she will not vote for him now.

(I wanted to throw a party!!)

[riverbendviewgal]

1. YES!

[geckosfeet]

2. I'll be there!

[Tennessee Gal]

3. Love stories like this! Fantastic!

Hope she tells all her friends!

[liberallibral]

4. Not my rw co-workers...

They snapped at me, and said "Mitt's telling the truth! Good!!!"...

I calmly replied - Really? That many people, 47% are "victims" that don't want to work???

Their rebuttle was "Well, maybe the numbers are off, but Romney's right!! Obama is a food-stamp president"......

These people are really starting to annoy me. and I try to seriously be REASONABLE with them. Becoming more and more difficult!!!

[burrowowl]

8. Tell them Rmoney doesn't pay

income tax, only capital gains if that; and how their take over of a company's pension fund was probably put in an off-shore bank, the people who paid into it will only get 30 to 40% on the dollar, paid for by the gov. and Rmoney and his gang get all the rest.

[WinstonSmith4740]

25. ...Obama is a food-stamp president."

That meme was old when that malevolent dwarf Newt said it. I guess we're supposed to believe that Obama convinced people with good jobs to quit them so they could go on the public dole. The fact that more people are on food stamps now has absolutely nothing to do with the economic collapse and jobs being sent to China and elsewhere where people work for 25 cents a hour. I guess we were just supposed to let these people starve to death.

Move along, folks. Nothing to see here. And ignore the man behind the curtain.

[Liberalman777]

58. Thank God For Obama and Food Stamps!

If we didn't have either this country would be mired in a deep Depression!

[southernyankeebelle]

64. My remark to this rightwingers are Thank god you don't have to be in a position to get food stamps

because many people do not want to get them. Majority of white people are getting food stamp and now have a better understanding about food stamps and why people are getting them. I thank god I don't have to be on food stamps but never say never. I don't begrude people who are on them.

[AmyDeLune]

86. A couple of months after I first started cashiering

January 2009 I think, an old right-winger came through my line and started going on about Obama and socialism and blah blah blah. I just nodded, corrected him on a couple of points and tried to speed him to the end of the transaction. Then he opens his wallet and pulls out an EBT (food stamp) card. We both look at it.

*crickets*

He then blusters "Well I guess I'll just pay with my commie card then!"

I do give him credit though, though he clearly was in need of the card, the next few times he came through my line he paid with dollars, loose change, and bottle return slips instead of the card. He at least could see the hypocracy of railing against a program he was partaking in.

The really sad thing is he didn't seem to realise that he really was entitled to it, he had contributed into the system his entire working life.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

60. Yeah, stock market up 67% = "food stamps"? :eyes: Show them this chart:

[smirkymonkey]

76. I would ask them how long they could live on their own resources if they lost their jobs, paychecks

and benefits. I am pretty sure they would be right in line with the rest of the "moochers".

Fools.

[Shitty Mitty]

89. I bet they're part of the 47% too

but too dumb to see it

[Skittles]

5. you gotta figure

every income tax-paying republican has a friend or relative in the 47% - every damn one of them

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

52. How many of them care? How many of them agree with rMoney?

[Skittles]

71. I have not heard a lot of agreement with Rmoney

they know he's a fuckwit - they simply hate Obama more

[aletier_v]

6. Avarice. He is deeply sick.

$300 million isn't enough.

A trillion won't be enough.

100 trillion will never be enough for his sickness.

[DonRedwood]

54. I agree...like many wealthy people there is some deeply rooted messed up psychosis

money money money

[arcane1]

62. When you have $20 billion, but still get up every day to go out and earn another $100,000...

you most definitely have a mental disease.

[kenfrequed]

67. It is strange isn't it...

But individuals making ridiculous gobs of money and demanding ever more are different from the corporate publically traded model. The corporation does not represent people as much as it does an amoral, heartless, mathematical formula that is fixed in it's concern to only maximize quarterly return on rate of investment at any cost.

That said there clearly are many, many members of the 1% that have an illness regarding money.

[porphyrian]

7. . n/t

[freshwest]

9. I think a bagger kin has just changed her mind. She's excited about being able to retire on SS soon

And her husband has been on VA disability for many years and not paid taxes. She felt insulted. I also told her about some changes to SS that had been made since 2009 and how nice they were the last time I went up there about someone getting disability. And how my area (very blue) is well organized for the disabled. She was pleased. I think she's considering a move out of the Glenn Beckistan state of mind. Nicest conversation we've had in years.

[Cha]

22. Mitt's Boca Raton

is such a gift!

[DonRedwood]

30. wish i could rec this post ;0)

[freshwest]

36. Excellent story up there, uplifting. Hope the good vibes keep spreading. Those numbers he cited...

Well, they are true. I don't think he understood the fire he set there.

Those number are made of people who:

Have not yet paid taxes -- the children in your school;

Have or have not been able to pay taxes -- those born disabled or disabled from working;

And the elderly -- who already paid their taxes.

Being able to work and pay taxes is not the standard for being a human and being treated with dignity. People that are in education know that as their lives are not based on money alone.

Teachers may not be paying taxes either -- I've known some who had to get food stamps, go to food banks and get on utility assistance and worked every day. Their tax rate was very low or not at all some years but that didn't mean they were lazy.

They 'followed all the rules and made good choices' as Obama says, and still, they are not independently wealthy. They are caretakers to their families, to other people, they work several jobs and don't party or indulge themselves --- they are not slothful or whatever it is Mitt is saying they are.

The Romneys, Ayn Rand cultists and Libertarians go by dollar value only. If you have money now, you get. If you don't have money, and can't get any, die and make way for the Supermen.

That's not the vision that Mayor Castro showed us at the DNC, of working people passing the baton forward to the next generation.

Many are brave enough to admit in the face of relentless RW sitgmatizing, that they had to get public help at some time in their lives. And now they can pay taxes. My Depression era family said paying taxes is a sign of pride, because it means you have a job that can pay taxes.

Romney doesn't know how to work, never did without, his whole life has been a vacation. That's why he doesn't respect those who are tired and need one. I'd say he needs to go home, but he is afraid to because he has to justify himself.

I'm feeling sorry for the man as I don't think he ever really grew up. If he lost all of his money and connections, I think he'd kill himself. He couldn't imagine the lives many of us have. We have had the courage to hold together. We'll be alright.

[DonRedwood]

37. i pictured romney starring in the movie Trading Places :0)

[freshwest]

39. That movie was classic. My favorite scene shows how Romney got rich:

Note how Valentine breaks the veil.

[kenfrequed]

68. Heh...

Of course now it would be much more ephemeral.

"We have a pile of debt from bad loans made here, and some medium loans here, and over here we have a huge stack of complex derivatives based on currency exchange... but don't ask us to explain how those work... waaayyy too complicated"

But yeah, I liked that movie too.

[knitter4democracy]

73. Teachers pay taxes.

Heck, in Michigan, we pay an extra tax of 3% of our paycheck to pay for the current teacher retirees (supposedly will be there when we retire, but no one's dumb enough to believe that). I lose a ton in taxes every year, even though if I didn't get child/spousal support we'd qualify for food stamps.

[freshwest]

74. I didn't mean to imply that teachers don't. I said some may not. I have friends without spouses who

Just did not make enough to pay income taxes the way Romney says. They worked several jobs, just as a number of state workers I know now have to work.

They pay their health insurance, retirement fund, taxes for SS and other things, but didn't end up owing at the end of the year or got EIC. Because they are taking care of other people.

One in particular did not get spousal support after their divorce and was lucky to hold onto the equity in their house and finance the rest to keep her home. She had to get food stamps and utility assistance. Her girl has Down's and she had to get her on Medicaid when she retired and her girl was no longer covered.

Most of the teachers I've known are real life savers and they do not deserve the hatred that is being flung at them from the GOP.

[DonRedwood]

83. Taxes plus student loans...sigh....between those two things the govt. gets over half my check

[freshwest]

84. Oooh! Romney wants your vote, then!

[marions ghost]

10. thanks for that

I hope this is happening around the country. Are people really waking up to how they have been exploited?

[TroglodyteScholar]

11. I had a similar experience with a mostly right-leaning coworker today...

He told me "he doesn't have my vote."

Then, I found out later, he told someone else in the office that he would even be voting for Obama.

Rmoney has shit the bed.

[DonRedwood]

55. awwwwwwwesome

[Tikki]

12. I wish they knew G. W. Bush was the same..he hid behind a texas good 'ole boy thingy...

Both are major asses.



Tikki

[efhmc]

20. Especially since he was and is a Conneticut yankee.

[DonRedwood]

51. I have never understood how he became a good old boy

being a harvard cheerleader and all.... not the usual manly texas manly thing

[AnneD]

59. That is exactly the point....

real Texans kept trying to make. He was a faux Texan, the fever induced imaging of Karl Roves sick twisted mind. And that is the nicest thing this Texan can say.

[eridani]

49. Bush was every bit as much a whore for the 1% (I call you my base), but

--unlike Rmoney, he had the Aw Shucks routine down pat.

[brewens]

13. That video is just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine what you'd get if it was just Romney, the Koch

brothers and a couple other mega rich donors. The trusted top oligarchs plotting. You'd hear them discussing just exactly how to take down the middle class. How they plan to eliminate homeownership, lower wages, eliminate any safety net and make a huge peasant class. They discuss class warfare alright.

Thinking about it though, they actually wouldn't probably allow Romney in that discussion. His wealthy but not quite in their league. He's do their dirty-work anyway without being in on the big picture.

[aletier_v]

29. Just imagine his secret conversations with the Mormon church leaders!

How to convert Christians to Mormonism,
use the IRS and State Department to find new baptisms,
etc, etc

[bushisanidiot]

88. Yep!

And THAT is exactly why Romney was in Utah this week. Seeking counsel fom Mormon leadership. They are THE BORG!

[deaniac21]

14. I'm sure many straight up red republican's

will feel the same.

[jimlup]

15. We need to remember that these frustrated red voters

have a very short memory and will be suckers for all the propaganda and canned "surprises" due to be released in October by the desperate and frustrated and damaged Republicans.

A cornered and wounded monster is a dangerous thing. Let's keep the pressure on now through November.

[robinlynne]

16. yes.

[efhmc]

18. Agreed.

[WillyT]

23. You Are Absolutely Correct... Check This Out !!!

From BusinessInsider: http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romneys-october-surprise-is-going-to-be-legendary-2012-9#ixzz26r3n1lnm

[freshwest]

75. Yes, that's what everyone is concerned about.

[justice1]

38. I don't think so

Just watched a bit of Nightline, with a Republican 1%er, and he was disgusted by what he saw.

[DonRedwood]

50. I'm with you. Even most repubs think starving people should be fed

[sarcasmo]

17. I think the Lib candidate might get more votes than Thurston.

[WinstonSmith4740]

19. And another Rmoney vote bites the dust!!

Throw that party! It's so nice to see the scales falling from their eyes, isn't it?

[Cha]

21. This is a Par-tee!

[cr8tvlde]

24. I'll believe the shift after Nov 6th...until then...pedal to the metal.

[DonRedwood]

56. yes, i'm thnking of all those downticket votes now....going bluer and bluer the harder we work :)

[hrmjustin]

26. I think alot of conservatives will not pull the lever for him.

You get the feeling that many conservatives will not be upset if he looses.

[davidn3600]

35. Yeah, a lot of them are punting on the presidential race

But they are voting GOP the rest of the ticket. They are voting for gridlock.

[DonRedwood]

40. if they bother to show up, that is....

[bhikkhu]

28. Mine said:

"I can't believe everyone's talking about what Romney said - which is true, by the way - while our flags are being burned and our embassies are being overrun all over the world!"

I believe he was talking about what I have heard is fox's non-stop montage (undated and unsourced) of smashed windows, burning vehicles, shouting brown people, and angry commentary about who's hating on who (because of Obama)...

At least in discussion we were able to resolve it down to fundamental differences in viewpoint - I think people are basically good, basically honest, hardworking like us, going to work every day, sitting at home with their families, talking about things, etc.

Where he thinks most people aren't much better than animals, who would lie, cheat, steal, stab you in the back, whatever.

[Volaris]

43. lol Well, at least you can take comfort in the fact that BOTH of you are projecting...

and guess what? YOU win the compassionate Human Lottery.

[Stryder]

31. Party on.

What if this was," Enough!" to actual sane Republicans?
Just with no shows,it should be a landslide.
Or maybe they just want to make us reeeealy complacent

VOTE damn it!

[calimary]

41. Welcome to DU, Stryder!

Glad you're here, and DO NOT GET COMPLACENT, as so many others here on this thread have warned also.

We need you!





Now get to to work.

[DonRedwood]

57. welcome to DU!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

32. Give her time. The Right Wing will tell her to hate the 47% and she will do it.

They were already half there as it was.

They will honestly believe they are part of the 53% and are in the majority so shut up and let them run things. They know what's best.

[Incitatus]

33. I know 2 people who were not going to vote

who are now going to vote for Obama because of that video.

[DonRedwood]

42. yay! I love hearing that!

[cherish44]

34. Ditto my Republican friend, this was the last straw

He's not going to vote for Obama but he's not voting for that "f**ing idiot Romney". He thinks the GOP is punting this election to make way for Jeb Bush in 2016 anyway so it's all in the plaaaaaaan for Obama to win.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. The punting part, sadly your friend might be right

[Bernardo de La Paz]

61. No need to invoke grand conspiracy when gross incompetence combined with ambition is sufficient. nt

[Tx4obama]

44. I REALLY LOVE IT every time I heard about a republican that is NOT going to vote for Romney.

It really does make my day

[Aerows]

46. Get out the Senate and the House

Those are much more critical. Romney is toast, and a diversion to those races.

[Monk06]

47. Class consciousness is a beautiful thing. n/t

[B Calm]

48. My Republican coworkers

still plan to vote for him. They are still in the it's them, not us mindset.

[mainstreetonce]

53. The right wingers I know

will still vote for him, but they are admitting he will lose.

[Populist_Prole]

65. That's the feeling I get too

The ones I know are too tribal to do anything else.

[DonRedwood]

87. I just hope some give up and stay home. Just 2 or 3% would be enough to make me happy.

[1StrongBlackMan]

63. I have a neighbor ...

that lives directly across from the community mailbox kiosk. Everyday, when I pick-up my mail, I see his pick-up truck with the "Nobama" and "Obama is the problem" bumper-stickers. He has had them on his truck since ... well ... Nov 2011.

Whenever I see him, we speak neighborly -like and usually end up in a political conversation. His objection to President Obama ... "He's a socialist", "He's killing industry with his regulations", "Obamacare is evil" ... you know, the typical teaparty narrative.

Well, I haven't seen him in awhile; but I still see his truck ... I noticed the other day, both bumperstickers were gone!

Oh yeah ... Did I mention, my neighbor hasn't held a job (that I know of) in the 5 years he's lived in the neighborhood?

[smirkymonkey]

78. So, it would seem he lost his job under W's administration.

Interesting how he doesn't blame Bush.

[1StrongBlackMan]

82. Yep ...

He lost his GOVERNMENT job, working for the state, under bush AND bat$shit crazy, teaparty darling Governor jan brewer.



It was always funny getting all passive-aggressive with this guy ... Me, with a BA, MA and JD and 25+ years in professional employment, him with a high school diploma and an unskilled laborer (former) job; Me, with an equally academically and professionall accomplished wife, him with a equally unaccomplished wife, who quit her government clerical job to pursue a real estate career ... in 2006, just AFTER the housing market imploded; me living in a house I (and my wife) bought, him living in a house next door to his wife's parents that his wife's parents bought at 20% above market, so that their daughter's commission would be more.

Yeah ... the devil in me has great fun with him ... but I don't think he gets my digs.

[aggiesal]

66. Congrats, but call me a skeptic . . .

Come November, she'll voe for Mitten's anyway.

She'll have 50 days to reconcile her decision, before
she enters that both and places her mark next to Mittens!

[robbob]

69. What you should have replied:

"What's wrong with him is what's wrong with the GOP; they are a party FOR the rich BY the rich and their main focus is helping the rich stay rich."

[Beartracks]

70. 'What's wrong with him'? Was this the first time she noticed anything wrong? n/t

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[SleeplessinSoCal]

72. They've got too much money to not come back with something that could cause her to shift.

Any chance you can ask her about what she thinks of Ayn Rand's philosophy?

[Ian David]

77. Get her phone banking. n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

79. Cheers!

I have a feeling your coworker is the tip of the iceberg.

[NMDemDist2]

80. hubby works with a lot of middle to upper middle class hispanics who tend Repuke

God fearing, gun toting etc

they are PISSED about the remarks

[Curmudgeoness]

81. Wish my encounter with my wingnut boss was as fulfilling.

He thinks that Mitt was right on spot. Bleah!

[tavernier]

85. I had a similar experience

"What is wrong with him? He just needs to stop talking!"
However, there was no declaration of losing her vote.

Well, it's a start. Here's hoping he keeps talking.

[L0oniX]

90. Send her this link...