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Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:27 PM Jul 2020

My guess is the orders to arrest and detain people in Portland came directly from Trump.

...As Commander in Chief he can order troops to do illegal acts. He is their commander, they do what they are told. This is far worse than any other act he has done. You must be read your rights, and informed of what is going on.
.... Detaining people like that is against the law. Trump ordered troops to do that, without IDs, (that was his order too) and no telling of their rights as ordered by supreme court. (ordered by Trump)
...Far worse than anything he has ever done. Trump doesn't care, but we care.

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My guess is the orders to arrest and detain people in Portland came directly from Trump. (Original Post) Stuart G Jul 2020 OP
I'm sure he said "Do it" and his evil minions worked out the details. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #1
My thoughts as well leftieNanner Jul 2020 #3
...He can claim he didn't order it, but Donald Trump is responsible for their actions. Stuart G Jul 2020 #4
The buck never stops with trump. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #9
Well that's not entirely true lunatica Jul 2020 #18
Ha! Nevilledog Jul 2020 #19
Sure sounds like it-- he's doing his George Wallace "law and order" rants dawg day Jul 2020 #2
That "George Wallace" crap is against the law. Trump knows it and everyone knows it. Stuart G Jul 2020 #6
Plus that DHS dude--aptly named Wolf-- is "acting" soothsayer Jul 2020 #5
The whole bunch of them are ACTING GOONS for trDump.... magicarpet Jul 2020 #17
And the rule of law will determine that if one knowingly acts upon an illegal order, they are ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #7
Yes, I think so, but it will not happen all at once. It is July..Who knows when the courts will Stuart G Jul 2020 #12
Yes, unfortunately you're probably right, in that the wheels of justice does turn, but slowly. SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #14
This is just the beginning. More will follow, much more. If Trump ordered, it is illegal. Stuart G Jul 2020 #15
There is another post on DU. love_katz Jul 2020 #8
K&R, Someone should tell em " I was just following orders" didn't work then, not going to work today uponit7771 Jul 2020 #10
Stephen Miller throwing his voice lame54 Jul 2020 #11
He's not that creative or smart. Steven Miller whispered in his ear alittlelark Jul 2020 #13
Notice too all these trDumpie goons looks and/or act like Tom Cotton ? magicarpet Jul 2020 #16

leftieNanner

(14,998 posts)
3. My thoughts as well
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jul 2020

Barr tested out the concept in DC and then decided to get the guys new camo uniforms and push the envelope in Portland.

It's surely a trial run for a bigger operation.

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
4. ...He can claim he didn't order it, but Donald Trump is responsible for their actions.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jul 2020

You cannot arrest people without reading rights. By orders of supreme court.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
2. Sure sounds like it-- he's doing his George Wallace "law and order" rants
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jul 2020

The only part of "presidenting" he likes is ordering law-enforcement and military around.

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
6. That "George Wallace" crap is against the law. Trump knows it and everyone knows it.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jul 2020

...Trump will defend this, as he defends everything, but this is indefensible. If the orders came from Trump,
it is against the law.

magicarpet

(13,945 posts)
17. The whole bunch of them are ACTING GOONS for trDump....
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jul 2020

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Notice too all these trDumpie goons looks and/or act like Tom Cotton ?

ACTING Secretary of Homeland Security Wolf.

ACTING US Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Mark Morgan.

ACTING Department of Homeland Security Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli.

Nazis and Fascist goons for trDump one and all.

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SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
7. And the rule of law will determine that if one knowingly acts upon an illegal order, they are ...
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jul 2020

indeed responsible for that illegal act, thus, they can't hide by the disclaimer that they were 'ordered' by higher ups to act as such (illegally). Being illegally detained w/o cause, w/o reading of their rights, w/o access to their attorneys, etc., all run counter to what the Supreme Court has ruled in the past. This will come back and bite these people on the a&&, as it should.

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
12. Yes, I think so, but it will not happen all at once. It is July..Who knows when the courts will
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:44 PM
Jul 2020

determine the penalty and who gets that penalty. Trump gave the orders, but no one knows if or when
& how he will be punished for giving illegal orders.

SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
14. Yes, unfortunately you're probably right, in that the wheels of justice does turn, but slowly.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jul 2020

And I'm not really knocking it, it benefits all sides, but all of those who participated in these illegal acts should be charged like they were in Nixon's administration (John Mitchell I think, others), and Nixon was forced to resign before he would be ushered out of office. I'm surprised that the governor of WA is not acting more aggressively on this issue, after all, it's her citizens being illegally detained without apparent cause.

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
15. This is just the beginning. More will follow, much more. If Trump ordered, it is illegal.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jul 2020

If Trump pays for this, is a question we do not know. But this was totally illegal. All legal experts know it, and we will hear about this forever.

love_katz

(2,562 posts)
8. There is another post on DU.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jul 2020

The scum bag for DHS said that not only are they not going to stop what they are doing in Portland, Oregon, but they are going to expand their operations to other cities as well.

alittlelark

(18,886 posts)
13. He's not that creative or smart. Steven Miller whispered in his ear
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jul 2020

Miller is a TRULY EVIL 'person'. He is also smart and channels Goebbels.

magicarpet

(13,945 posts)
16. Notice too all these trDumpie goons looks and/or act like Tom Cotton ?
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jul 2020

ACTING Secretary of Homeland Security Wolf.

ACTING US Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Mark Morgan.

ACTING Department of Homeland Security Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli.

Nazis and Fascist goons for trDump one and all.

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