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Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:47 PM Jul 2020

Voided election

Lots of talk about Trump not accepting results of the election after Nov., “We’ll hVe to see what happens”. So after all voter suppression fails and he gets slaughtered, His last play is to deny results and use the constitution to Have states not verify electoral. My question, if he sees he lost, and McConnell, Graham, Collins, Ernst, et al get slaughtered, do we not believe “they will also” do everything to deny the vote to keep their jobs. How far down will the voiding results go? To states, counties, cities and how long then will they keep the congress appointed positions, 4 years or a new election?

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Voided election (Original Post) Traildogbob Jul 2020 OP
Not gonna let such concerns get in way of getting out the vote and running up the score for Dems. Hoyt Jul 2020 #1
Technically - Legally leftieNanner Jul 2020 #2
Thank you Traildogbob Jul 2020 #3
We have interesting discussions here on DU leftieNanner Jul 2020 #4
When Idiot's term expires January, 2021... WyattKansas Jul 2020 #5
I hope so. Traildogbob Jul 2020 #6
When President Nancy Pelosi immediately fires Attorney General Barr... WyattKansas Jul 2020 #9
Music to my ears Traildogbob Jul 2020 #10
Agree! We here need to remember we are not without power to act. Time is growing short Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #12
I think so leftieNanner Jul 2020 #7
Me too Traildogbob Jul 2020 #11
You are correct! They will try, but in the end they will not succeed Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #8
Yes, we still have government. roamer65 Jul 2020 #14
Ah - that's good to understand. leftieNanner Jul 2020 #15
It may resemble the time during the Articles of Confederation. roamer65 Jul 2020 #16
I will leftieNanner Jul 2020 #17
.. roamer65 Jul 2020 #18
I could see him hiding in the white house basement until he is arrested and taken away. jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #13
Very interesting. Traildogbob Jul 2020 #20
Let them protest in court where it belongs, then we will tie HIS ass up for 10 years.... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #19

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
2. Technically - Legally
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:52 PM
Jul 2020

All of their terms end in January 2021. Senators who were up for election, House members, and the President. So if the whole thing blows up (it just might!), then we have no government.

If all the Repug Senators lose, then I wouldn't be surprised if they join Ass Face in contesting the election. The problem for them in particular is that the elections are run by their own states. If the SOS and Board of Elections certify the results, then it's difficult for them to say it was fraudulent.

Can you believe that we are actually having this conversation????

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
3. Thank you
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:08 PM
Jul 2020

Don’t want to think of it, certainly will vote and get sick doing so if need be. But I damn well believe trump will not be the only one trying not to leave, and the evilpower of McConnell and Graham with Fox News is not to be underestimated. Thank you for your answer and response.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
5. When Idiot's term expires January, 2021...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jul 2020

I'm sure he and the rest of his Republican enablers don't want to deal with President Nancy Pelosi if they refuse to accept election results.

Am I right about this process?

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
6. I hope so.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jul 2020

Nov. until Jan 21, if they refuse results, may be brutal in the streets. His BarrArmy May go off.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
9. When President Nancy Pelosi immediately fires Attorney General Barr...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jul 2020

All of his minions will vanish once they realize their careers and which side of the law they are on will be eliminated and they will be labeled as enemies/criminals of the United States.

Career government employees and law enforcement will immediately turn on them as well.

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
12. Agree! We here need to remember we are not without power to act. Time is growing short
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jul 2020

For the criminal president and his ilk

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
7. I think so
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jul 2020

Except that if all the elections are challenged - House races too - then there would be zero reps in the House and only 67 (or so) Senators. The succession goes President - VP - Speaker of the House, but I think that would only happen if the President and VP are both hit by a bus on the same day. If there is a tie in the Electoral vote, then there is a process that takes place in the House where each state gets one vote - which would give the election to Trump (assuming every Republican House member votes for him). We hold more seats, but they have more states.

All these interesting things I have learned by being on DU!

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
11. Me too
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:43 PM
Jul 2020

Learned it here and from Thom Hartmann. Really appreciate all the shared knowledge here. Think most all ppl here could ace Donnies tough test. Especially the last 5.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
14. Yes, we still have government.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jul 2020

The states assume the powers.

That’s why it is imperative to flip your state governments Democratic.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. It may resemble the time during the Articles of Confederation.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jul 2020

Stronger state governments and a weak federal government.

Read the Tenth Amendment. It gives states a LOT of latitude.

jorgevlorgan

(8,289 posts)
13. I could see him hiding in the white house basement until he is arrested and taken away.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jul 2020
Elected officials in the U.S. have also refused to step down, albeit from lower offices than the presidency. In 1874, a Texas governor locked himself in the basement of the state capitol building after losing his reelection bid. The saga began when Republican Governor Edmund J. Davis lost the 1873 election by a resounding 2-to-1 ratio to his Democratic challenger, Richard Coke, and claimed that the election had been tainted with fraud and intimidation. A court case made its way to the state’s supreme court. All three justices, each of whom had been appointed by the incumbent Davis, ruled that the election was unconstitutional and invalid. Democrats called upon the public to disregard the court’s decision, and proceeded with plans for Coke’s inauguration. On January 15, 1874, Coke arrived at the state capitol with a sheriff’s posse, and was sworn in to office while Davis barricaded himself downstairs with state troopers. The next day, Davis requested federal troops from President Ulysses S. Grant. Grant refused, and Davis finally stepped down three days later.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/what-if-he-wont-go/606259/?fbclid=IwAR18oaUx2FyfLxKuvYpvOvGJAbfFPJMXWtAVChmf8Lbw7DIGXeev0M0J31Y

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
20. Very interesting.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jul 2020

We had McCrury refuse to leave in NC. Cooper took over after a while. The GOP prick was promised a victory from Puty, and voter fraud was suppose to give him the win. HE Could not believe he lost. Seems to be a GOP tactic of late to refuse results.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
19. Let them protest in court where it belongs, then we will tie HIS ass up for 10 years....
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:46 PM
Jul 2020

with delays on appeal, just like he prefers to handle all things justice......

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