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Household income declines, poverty rate flat graphic with interesting points on consumer food prices (Original Post) Sherman A1 Sep 2012 OP
Du rec. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #1
it dropped in fewer states than in 2010 cali Sep 2012 #2
Agreed Sherman A1 Sep 2012 #3
Food prices--I just did some math CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #4
It is $1.29 and most of the increase is due to excess speculation... mdavies013 Sep 2012 #5
and doesn't it just blow you away.... CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #6
Speculation is one part, but there is never just one thing involved Sherman A1 Sep 2012 #7
Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2012 #8
(1.022)*(1.038)*(1.019)*(1.017)*(1.042)*(1.064)*(1.005)*(1.003)*(1.048)=1.2876 progree Sep 2012 #11
Exponents suck....lol Cronkite Sep 2012 #12
Anyone note? oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #9
It is certainly a contributing factor Sherman A1 Sep 2012 #10

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. Agreed
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:59 AM
Sep 2012

Using the information from the piece, I see things as a bit of a mixed bag, but slowly moving in the right direction. What I found interesting was the increase in food prices. We all know that they have been steadily increasing just by our own shopping, but this put the inflation in that category in a nice chart. I expect them to shoot through the roof in the coming year as the effects of the drought & heat wave come into the market.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
4. Food prices--I just did some math
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 07:10 AM
Sep 2012

....so look out! Math is not my strong suit--but here is what I did.

I looked at the percentage increases in food prices for the years in that chart, which you posted.

I assumed that an item was $1--and I increased the price of that item by the percentages listed.

The $1 item went from $1 to a final cost of $1.27 cents. That's nearly a 30 percent increase in prices!!!! No one in the media is talking about this...AT ALL!

Again, not a math person--but I think I'm pretty close (I would love someone else to check my work!).

I intuitively understood that food prices have gone absolutely nuts. I'm one of those crazy couponers, and I pay very close attention to prices. I know that some items have doubled in price. Also, the cost of staples such as milk, eggs, bread and hamburger have definitely increased more than 30 percent. A pound of hamburger has doubled, and milk prices have almost doubled as well. They basics that we need--have skyrocketed.

I think this information about food prices (that is not being discussed) is a key reason for economic hardship. Our wages are stagnating, and we're making less--but what we have to fork over for food and gas has risen so much! It's like getting another paycut. A 30 percent pay cut!

Our grocery budget has nearly doubled in the past 8 years, and so has our gas budget. This affects everyone, but it is hidden. I think it's a tragedy that many people wander around, wondering why they have less money. The cost of food is affecting everyone--and you're right, it's only going to get worse.

mdavies013

(336 posts)
5. It is $1.29 and most of the increase is due to excess speculation...
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 07:20 AM
Sep 2012

if we really cared about "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION" there would be a Tea Party on Wall Street....just not the racist republican kind.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. and doesn't it just blow you away....
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 07:25 AM
Sep 2012

...that the media doesn't talk about this???

I think most Americans feel as if they have somehow failed themselves, because they can't save extra money and they don't feel like they're getting ahead.

Well...according to the stats posted---If you used to budget $500 for groceries every month for a family of four--you are now paying $650. That is an incredibly significant increase!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. Speculation is one part, but there is never just one thing involved
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 07:54 AM
Sep 2012

The cost of oil is a huge contributor in the cost of fertilizer, production, packaging and transportation. It just ripples through everything and every part of the economy.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. Precisely
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:00 AM
Sep 2012

I recall a time when inflation was called a hidden tax on Americans. It seems that most of those increases occurred during the Bush years, but maybe my calendar is off?

progree

(10,901 posts)
11. (1.022)*(1.038)*(1.019)*(1.017)*(1.042)*(1.064)*(1.005)*(1.003)*(1.048)=1.2876
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:58 PM
Sep 2012

So MDavies013 is correct (1.2876 rounds to 1.29).

The average annual increase is only about 2.848%. But over 9 years, it reaches ouch territory. 1.02848^9 = 1.2875 close enough to 1.2876.

A $500/month food budget for a family over the course of the last 9 years, grows to 1.2876*500 = $644

By the way, the median household income numbers in the graphic look inflation adjusted, but I haven't yet determined in which year's dollars they are expressed in.

On Edit 9/23 903p ET - added the last paragraph - on the median household income

 

Cronkite

(158 posts)
12. Exponents suck....lol
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:57 PM
Sep 2012

Now do that for medical costs at 9% per year on average for the past 10 years.....

oldsarge54

(582 posts)
9. Anyone note?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:04 AM
Sep 2012

The relationship between gas prices and food inflation? My statistics skill are a bit rusty, but by TLAR* I would say there is a positive relationship.



*TLAR: WWII fighter bombsight, "That Looks About Right"

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
10. It is certainly a contributing factor
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:07 AM
Sep 2012

as to the statistical analysis, I will leave that to those better skilled than myself .

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