Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
34 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Anyone else suspicious that protests in middle east have been instigated by outside sinister forces (Original Post) xiamiam Sep 2012 OP
care to be more specific? cali Sep 2012 #1
From day one, but I figured I was in the minority. eom Frustratedlady Sep 2012 #2
Neo-cons at their best. Wellstone ruled Sep 2012 #3
there is exactly zero evidence that neo-cons are involved in this at all. cali Sep 2012 #7
here is what we do know..al qaeda will be blamed xiamiam Sep 2012 #33
You should take that tin foil hat off and join the real world glacierbay Sep 2012 #10
Dogmatic Much? HangOnKids Sep 2012 #24
No, it is not frowned on here. cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #25
Personal Attacks Are Frowned Upon HangOnKids Sep 2012 #26
Seriously? leftynyc Sep 2012 #4
They are being instigated internally by fundy Imams Marrah_G Sep 2012 #5
October Surprise? backscatter712 Sep 2012 #6
I absolutely agree with you LiberalEsto Sep 2012 #9
I'm guessing if you were to play Six Degrees of Evil... Initech Sep 2012 #8
"outside sinister forces" = oil companies and the gop. - Remember the Iran hostage event planned jwirr Sep 2012 #11
So where is the proof? glacierbay Sep 2012 #12
I don't think I need a link to proof what is my own opinion. Can you prove it is not? jwirr Sep 2012 #13
No, you don't need proof to post your own opinion. glacierbay Sep 2012 #15
I understand that but I was answering a post that asked if any of the rest of us were worried jwirr Sep 2012 #16
Post Proof That The Leader Was Released From Gitmo HangOnKids Sep 2012 #22
What concerns me is... PoliticalBiker Sep 2012 #29
i also recognize the coordination of it xiamiam Sep 2012 #32
And Royal Dutch Shell has been running Iran for 30 years? One_Life_To_Give Sep 2012 #17
of course, but candidates for "instigator" are many and evidence vague librechik Sep 2012 #14
Directed from Riyadh? One_Life_To_Give Sep 2012 #18
Thanks for posting this madokie Sep 2012 #19
lol, madokie, I always get flack even if I just post a news link xiamiam Sep 2012 #34
I believe events are interconnected siligut Sep 2012 #20
Yes, because stuff like that *never* happens in the Middle East Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #21
Everybody meddles in the Middle East, who did you have in mind? nt bemildred Sep 2012 #23
You are clearly the only one who thinks that these protests are the work of Evil Republicans el_bryanto Sep 2012 #27
I never said Republicans..it is bigger and more complicated than that.. xiamiam Sep 2012 #31
Nope, they have their own internal dynamics nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #28
trillions of dollars evaporated..enough money for tptb to manipulate anything xiamiam Sep 2012 #30
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Neo-cons at their best.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
Sep 2012

This is a shot at Obama,your going to see more of this October Surprise coming from the Willard crew. The cons methods are in plan,Bibi doing ads of Willard in south Florida. There you go again!!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. there is exactly zero evidence that neo-cons are involved in this at all.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:47 PM
Sep 2012

but your post certainly says something.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
33. here is what we do know..al qaeda will be blamed
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 04:08 PM
Sep 2012

other than that..WE dont know anything ..we know that an anti muslim film sparked unrest and protests. There is a lot more to this story which we will probably never know. Why now when that film has been around for months? Anti American sentiment in the muslim world is a fire ready to ignite. Who benefits? or who thinks they would benefit at this time?

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
10. You should take that tin foil hat off and join the real world
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:57 PM
Sep 2012

there is absolutely no evidence of this being a RW plot. It's not like this hasn't happened before because of a cartoon, article, video, that the Muslim world have rioted and killed.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
24. Dogmatic Much?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

Telling someone they are wearing a tin foil hat is kind of frowned on here, I know you have only been here a few days but you should know.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
25. No, it is not frowned on here.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:13 PM
Sep 2012

It is commonplace and accepted. Try alerting on a tinfoil reference and see.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. Seriously?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:43 PM
Sep 2012

Because in the past the radical Muslims have shown such restraint? You may want to ask Salman Rushdie what he thinks of your theory.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
5. They are being instigated internally by fundy Imams
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:44 PM
Sep 2012

These clerics are using lies about the movie to set off these violent protests.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
6. October Surprise?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:46 PM
Sep 2012

Remember, the Reagan people covertly negotiated with Iran and got them to refuse to release the hostages until after Carter was defeated and Reagan was sworn in.

I don't put anything past these psychopaths.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
8. I'm guessing if you were to play Six Degrees of Evil...
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:50 PM
Sep 2012

You could make a connection to Koch Industries or the BFEE. Not that would surprise anyone here.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. "outside sinister forces" = oil companies and the gop. - Remember the Iran hostage event planned
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:02 PM
Sep 2012

for raygun?

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
15. No, you don't need proof to post your own opinion.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:17 PM
Sep 2012

And yes there is emerging proof that the attack was planned by and carried out by terrorists affiliated with AQ and the leader was an AQ member that was released from Gitmo and handed over to the Libyan's in 2007 and was subsequently released. Even the WH is beginning to come around to this instead of the spontaneous attack theory.

There is zero evidence of any GOP or RW involvement in this.
I don't put anything past the RW, but before I make accusations, I like to have proof, that's just the cop in me.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. I understand that but I was answering a post that asked if any of the rest of us were worried
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:09 PM
Sep 2012

about this being caused by outside forces. The two I mentioned are the two I trust the least and had a lot to gain by the unrest in the ME right now. AQ is always interested in unrest and for that reason always gets mentioned first.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
22. Post Proof That The Leader Was Released From Gitmo
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:06 PM
Sep 2012

That was a rumor spread on FAUX last I heard. You are mighty bossy for somebody who just showed up here dude. I don't care if you are a LEO.

PoliticalBiker

(328 posts)
29. What concerns me is...
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:23 PM
Sep 2012

the timing of both the attack and subsequent killing of our Ambassador and the release of rommy's *outrage* statement.
seems awfully coincidental.
I'm still not convinced 9/11 didn't involve some help from within out gov't., so the more than suspicious timeing of events from the rommy campaign, that we know are full of neo-con connections, are not outside the realm of possibility.
As most of us know, politics and money are bedmates and both are devoid of morality when power is involved.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
32. i also recognize the coordination of it
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:51 PM
Sep 2012

as eerily reminiscent of 911..downthread i posted that it almost has a signature on it which I recognize but don't really know..just as 911

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
17. And Royal Dutch Shell has been running Iran for 30 years?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:32 PM
Sep 2012

At most Raygun was able to prolong the hostage crisis. But the revolution was neither instigated by big oil nor the GOP. The biggest beneficiaries of that were USSR and regional dictators.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
14. of course, but candidates for "instigator" are many and evidence vague
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:08 PM
Sep 2012

I've been trying to figure out who benefits from these protests, and I don't like the answers I'm getting--besides, can't definitely say anything about the situation because info is so scarce and likely to be propaganda rather than facts; also fact checking isn't exactly possible.

Time to not jump to conclusions and wait for some believable intelligence coming out of the protest areas.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
18. Directed from Riyadh?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:35 PM
Sep 2012

I think the players pulling the strings there aren't bothered by trivialities like US elections.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
19. Thanks for posting this
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:39 PM
Sep 2012

I see you're getting some flack from some but I agree with you 100%. These guys, the republicon liars handlers are more than capable of causing something like this to happen. I truly believe that.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
34. lol, madokie, I always get flack even if I just post a news link
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 04:16 PM
Sep 2012

I hesitated with this post because its just an instinct..something about the coordination of the embassy attacks right after the Uk threatened to storm Ecuadors embassy..and the uproar about the sanctity and safety of embassys worldwide. Just a few weeks later, the embassy is attacked and an ambassador killed over a film that's been around for months. Suspicious, yes..about everything for the last decade.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
20. I believe events are interconnected
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

We know there is interest in ME resources and bringing "Democracy" there.
Our M$M repeatedly showed film of violent destructive protesters.
Religion has been used to manipulate the proles before.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
21. Yes, because stuff like that *never* happens in the Middle East
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:56 PM
Sep 2012

in normal circumstances. Someone should check Karl Rove's email Outbox.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
27. You are clearly the only one who thinks that these protests are the work of Evil Republicans
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:22 PM
Sep 2012

Anybody else thinking that would be considered crazy, but you, and you alone, have the foresight to see things as they are.

Bryant

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
31. I never said Republicans..it is bigger and more complicated than that..
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:43 PM
Sep 2012

I'm beyond blaming republicans..really..even on a partisan website. Now, the powers that own the repubs and the democrats and the banks and the mic...and the cia ...and throw stolen money at the superpacs to influence our already controlled elections... and also wreak havoc worldwide , etc etc have a very sinister evil planner or two in their ranks. I do have foresight, and instinct, I am a woman and a survivor, it goes with the territory.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
30. trillions of dollars evaporated..enough money for tptb to manipulate anything
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:30 PM
Sep 2012

since 911, my instinct for dark manipulation has been honed. I can't put my finger on it or point at anyone group or person, but there is a signature on the anti muslim protests and the embassy attacks that is reminiscent of that type of sinister coordination and planning. I posted this because its an instinct that I wanted to know if anyone else was feeling. I do not think it is what it appears to be.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Anyone else suspicious th...