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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:55 AM Aug 2020

Trump Keeps Taking Russia's Side, and We Don't Know Why

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/trump-putin-germany-bases-bounties-russia-mueller.html

It was widely assumed that Robert Mueller’s investigation would uncover what, if anything, lay at the bottom of the bizarre and sometimes creepy level of deference Donald Trump extends to Russia. Mueller found some clues, the largest of which was a campaign negotiation to give Trump rights to a Moscow building project that stood to hand him hundreds of millions of dollars in profit at zero risk, and the secrecy of which gave Russia blackmail leverage over Trump.

But Mueller never uncovered the full extent of Trump’s financial ties to Moscow. “Neither Mueller nor the Southern District prosecutors sought out Trump’s financial records or obtained his tax returns,” Jeffrey Toobin reports. The mystery of Trump’s solicitousness to Putin remains unresolved. And he continues to give reasons for suspicion.

Earlier this week, Trump announced a pullback of 12,000 troops stationed in Germany. He framed the decision as punishment for a long and amorphous list of offenses over a quarter century, including both unspecified trade deals and alleged delinquency on “bills.”

“We don’t want to be the suckers anymore,” Trump said. “The United States has been taken advantage of for 25 years, both on trade and on the military. We’re protecting Germany, so we’re reducing the force because they’re not paying their bills.”

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Trump Keeps Taking Russia's Side, and We Don't Know Why (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2020 OP
I think this is a CLUE ... GeorgeGist Aug 2020 #1
Well, it's pretty easy to guess why. yardwork Aug 2020 #2
Yeah we know underpants Aug 2020 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2020 #7
Exactly! nt Andy823 Aug 2020 #13
Exactly! ElementaryPenguin Aug 2020 #20
Carrots & sticks. moondust Aug 2020 #21
we do know why: trump needs putin's help with reelection AlexSFCA Aug 2020 #3
We know. C_U_L8R Aug 2020 #4
We do know why. And MSM need to stop acting and saying they don't know why. jrthin Aug 2020 #6
Preach it. nt crickets Aug 2020 #11
The truth that will not be said aloud Sanity Claws Aug 2020 #8
Good question. Drives me crazy. Not even Rachel for crying out loud! triron Aug 2020 #15
Even House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy pointed out that Donald works for the Russians. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #9
This guy Mueller, he wanted to ask. Kid Berwyn Aug 2020 #10
Sung to the tune of Jimmy Crack Corn lame54 Aug 2020 #12
he's a Russian agent! Please don't be so stupid. triron Aug 2020 #14
I agree. Nevilledog Aug 2020 #17
knr triron Aug 2020 #16
Yes, we do know why. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #18
It's weird isn't it. Even McFaul wouldn't say it. triron Aug 2020 #19
kick again triron Aug 2020 #22
kick for visibility triron Aug 2020 #23
knr again triron Aug 2020 #24
The Noonan Rule: Is it irresponsible to speculate? gratuitous Aug 2020 #25

GeorgeGist

(25,319 posts)
1. I think this is a CLUE ...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 11:59 AM
Aug 2020
“Neither Mueller nor the Southern District prosecutors sought out Trump’s financial records or obtained his tax returns,”
AS TO WHY WE DON'T KNOW.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
2. Well, it's pretty easy to guess why.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:02 PM
Aug 2020

After the Soviet Union collapsed, Russian mobsters flooded NYC with money, including deals involving real estate. Donald Trump was right in the middle of NYC real estate at the time, with his father's money, mobster and white supremacist connections, his stupidity, his gullibility, his inability to make wise decisions, his narcissistic personality disorder, and his apparent sexual proclivities.... this and more made Trump a good target as a stooge, a money launderer, and eventually a Russian asset. Putin owns him, pure and simple. Trump owes billions to Putin and I'm sure there are pictures and videos too.

underpants

(182,772 posts)
5. Yeah we know
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:09 PM
Aug 2020

It’s been painfully obvious since before he basically bowed to Putin in Helsinki and took Putin’s side over his own country. Pulling the troops out of Germany is about the 12th instance of him doing Putin’s work for him.

Response to yardwork (Reply #2)

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
8. The truth that will not be said aloud
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 12:27 PM
Aug 2020

We all know why he always takes Russia's side. Why don't the media just say it?

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
9. Even House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy pointed out that Donald works for the Russians.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:01 PM
Aug 2020

Not that he sees that as a bad thing.

I'm still waiting for the details of the July Fourth weekend when seven Republican Senators went to Moscow for "meetings".

What went on there, and why are we not seeing ads about this?

Kid Berwyn

(14,876 posts)
10. This guy Mueller, he wanted to ask.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 01:19 PM
Aug 2020

Never got the chance. He was Barred. Which brings up some interesting questions.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. Yes, we do know why.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:54 PM
Aug 2020

It's as plan as day to anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass. I'm talking to you, MSM.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. The Noonan Rule: Is it irresponsible to speculate?
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 10:11 PM
Aug 2020

Or would it be more irresponsible not to speculate?

Of course, speculation about something as picayune as the president selling out the country to Russia is nothing compared to whether Fidel Castro might be blackmailing Bill Clinton during the Elian Gonzalez affair. Now THAT was a national episode worthy of the darkest suspicions and the rankest speculation.

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